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Kawabata posted:Yes but this is nothing new. They took 8 years to release a futuristic Witcher 3 with updated visuals, even more sex and the same mediocre gameplay. Of course I'll play it anyway, there's nothing wrong with Cyberpunk, but it's no lightning in a bottle. I guess that the thing, I don’t think that Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk have “mediocre gameplay.” The combat in both games has a good deal of variety and is fun and engaging. They’re not best in class in some respects, but still far higher on the list than most games.
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hobbesmaster posted:Sure, disco elysium doesn’t even have combat but does any game with a critical hit mechanic not want you to stack it? The test isn't whether something is optimal, it's whether everything else is feasible. Disco Elysium is great not because it avoids combat but because every variant of gameplay / character build that you can choose essentially works and feels supported. A game that turns otherwise-decent combat into an unending slog because you didn't spec a specific way does not have well-designed combat.
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Arkage posted:This has got to be one of the most cynical, nonsensical hottakes of the thread I've seen so far. To elaborate a bit more, they definitely nailed the atmosphere and the setting. The story seems alright so far. They are different games in many respect yes, but it's obvious they made the same mistakes (and many new ones!) with Cyberpunk. It's like, they're still great at what they do but it doesn't look like Witcher 3 taught them anything.
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Dec 19, 2020 19:23
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I really think someone should add "Get the double jump legs!" to the OP It's such an amazing game changer
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Dec 19, 2020 19:24
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At least half the problem with Rope Kid's playthrough appears to be that 2077's difficulty slider is the half-assed kind that just adds hit points to enemies. Which is really bad, but also extremely common in twitch combat games. Mass Effect 2 did it and it's the best RPG of the last twenty years
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Dec 19, 2020 19:25
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PerilPastry posted:I really think someone should add "Get the double jump legs!" to the OP that sort of discovery is cooler when you make it on your own, imo
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Dec 19, 2020 19:25
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Basic Chunnel posted:At least half the problem with Rope Kid's playthrough appears to be that 2077's difficulty slider is the half-assed kind that just adds hit points to enemies. Which is really bad, but also extremely common in twitch combat games. Mass Effect 2 did it and it's the best RPG of the last twenty years kind of baffled he's having issues. is he on very hard?
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Dec 19, 2020 19:26
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Rinkles posted:that sort of discovery is cooler when you make it on your own, imo Agreed. I’m close to 60 hours in, don’t have that leg mod, and I’m doing fine. It’ll be a cool thing to go fit in another play though maybe, but it’s absolutely not essential.
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Dec 19, 2020 19:27
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Anyone know what's going on with this?
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Dec 19, 2020 19:27
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The gameplay is absolutely nothing like The Witcher what? Are you kidding me right now?
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Basic Chunnel posted:A game that turns otherwise-decent combat into an unending slog because you didn't spec a specific way does not have well-designed combat. The thing is though I'm having trouble thinking of any build where this is true unless you specifically only chose non combat perks (including no combat quickhack ones) and evenly leveled every attribute. Hell, I don't even think the last one matters as much seeing as my 6 Int V has a Shock that two hits most enemies and one hits droids. Like every tree has a bunch of skills that just turn you into a blender by midgame whether through shooting crits, rapid blade strikes with bleeding, or hacks that can spread and make everyone's head explode. I'm playing on Normal though. Is everyone saying it's bullet spongy playing on hard and up?
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what I've been doing is ignoring enemies as much as I can and just running to the objective, which is more fun and also saves a lot of time
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TescoBag posted:Anyone know what's going on with this? Try checking for cool poo poo where the transmitter is pointing?
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Dec 19, 2020 19:29
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TescoBag posted:Anyone know what's going on with this? might be a hint from some quest you haven't started. i come upon upon them all the time (feels like they shouldn't show up that way until you begin the quest)
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I'm playing on very hard and I can kill any enemy in the game in 1 or 2 hits with a katana with zero points invested in the blade tree. This game really isn't hard.
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I can't stop taking photos in this game.  I am enjoying myself a ton with this. I actually did a bit of VR with it! I used VorpX and my Quest 2 headset and spent some time walking around the city in first-person VR, which was awesome. Playing the game in that way was a bit rough and I found I got motion sick pretty fast, though. It's also incredibly hard on my PC and I had to turn down some settings, but seriously, seeing the city from a 55th floor rooftop in VR is a hell of an experience. Harvey Baldman fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Estraysian posted:I'm playing on very hard and I can kill any enemy in the game in 1 or 2 hits with a katana with zero points invested in the blade tree. This game really isn't hard. The only real difficulty comes from enemies too high level which just makes you unable to do any real damage to them. Fail poo poo frankly.
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Dec 19, 2020 19:31
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Rinkles posted:that sort of discovery is cooler when you make it on your own, imo it opens up new avenues of exploration with plenty of rewards in terms of both visuals and loot and makes navigating the city so easy you barely need to bother with the lackluster driving and since the game seems to have very little replayability I really think people should get a chance to enjoy it on the best terms as early as possible 
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I'm playing on Normal though. Is everyone saying it's bullet spongy playing on hard and up? i went to hard because normal was trivial. i'd go to very hard, but even on hard you're squishy enough for my taste
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Dec 19, 2020 19:32
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I'm playing on Normal though. Is everyone saying it's bullet spongy playing on hard and up? I've played very hard as both a shotgun, punch, bat lady and a hacker man and while I went down really quickly if I wasn't careful while punching none of the enemies were particularly hardy unless orange or red skilled. I can imagine rifles might be a lot sloggier though. The shotgun skill that deals extra damage to prone enemies was pretty necessary.
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My shotgun the Legendary Crusher is the best thing ever, 12 rounds, reloads with one mag change, is just perfect. it just solves problems my katana can't fix sometimes.
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Why does everyone rag on this game’s replayability? My son and I are playing side by side and comparing notes and a lot of the quests have multiple ways to solve them with multiple outcomes. I’m constantly seeing dialogue that gives me alternate paths through quests just based on my background and abilities. He’s seeing all kinds of poo poo I haven’t seen even though we did the same quests, and vice versa. It’s not Alpha Protocol, but for a game this large to have this much variety, it’s kinda mind boggling.
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Dec 19, 2020 19:37
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Took a little trip up to the top of Megabuilding H10 Atrium with my double jump legs, highly recommend checking out your pad at the top if you're into glitches or exploration. The climb is difficult, but rewarding especially for V's I'm rich bitch outfit . It's also a nice primer for future exploration and how the world is constructed / what you can / can't do. Collision is hit or miss as you get higher up in the buildings. I don't think this game was built with double jumping in mind. Anybody else got any cool locations to climb, or even better, cut content areas to explore? I'm looking at that giant green area to the east of Charter Hill. Would be cool to get into the stadium also, looks like they built a shanty town in it from the overhead map? Both of the locations can be seen here https://maps.piggyback.com/cyberpunk-2077/maps/night-city
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chaosapiant posted:Why does everyone rag on this game’s replayability? My son and I are playing side by side and comparing notes and a lot of the quests have multiple ways to solve them with multiple outcomes. I’m constantly seeing dialogue that gives me alternate paths through quests just based on my background and abilities. None of the main story has any of that. Everything is super linear in how it goes from Point A to point B. Its mostly all in side stuff.
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chaosapiant posted:Why does everyone rag on this game’s replayability? My son and I are playing side by side and comparing notes that's sweet.
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LifeSunDeath posted:My shotgun the Legendary Crusher is the best thing ever, 12 rounds, reloads with one mag change, is just perfect. I always found the double barrel shotguns more reliably put people on their rear end.
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I think the people who are doing all the side missions and then moving on the the story have it backwards, you should rush through the story because you get dump trucks full of XP for main story missions and lots of sweet unique loot which then makes traversing and exploring the open world more fun and less frustrating because you have all the stat and perk points you need to do what you feel like doing.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:None of the main story has any of that. Everything is super linear in how it goes from Point A to point B. Its mostly all in side stuff. Yea, again, I have to disagree. Even main quests have a good deal of variety.
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chaosapiant posted:Yea, again, I have to disagree. Even main quests have a good deal of variety. Care to spoiler a few examples? Because as much as I'd love to be wrong, I'm really not seeing it
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There is a wide gulf in difficulty between encounters. Most of the NCPD alerts are just "kill these 4 guys lumped together in a parking lot that will die instantly". As a regular soldier type(not using hack cheese or sniping people through walls) there are some hard areas where you will be shot by 8 different dudes and 4 turrets if you raise an alert.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Try checking for cool poo poo where the transmitter is pointing? So, the transmitter is pointing over here.  I've been up all 4 sets of scaffolding, I've been on top of the girders and run around up there, I've climbed the crane (although couldn't get to the very top) All I've found is a box with 35 ED in it. Anyone able to help me out?
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PerilPastry posted:Care to spoiler a few examples? Because as much as I'd love to be wrong, I'm really not seeing it No spoilers, but the segment with the Voodoo Boys has, between our notes, at least three possible outcomes. His poo poo played completely different to mine.
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TescoBag posted:So, the transmitter is pointing over here. If this is where I think it is, it’s tied to a quest. So it probably won’t have any purpose until you’re doing that quest.
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Dec 19, 2020 19:45
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so the optimal path is do the heist the fast you can and then take your sweet time with the game correct?
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Zeta Acosta posted:so the optimal path is do it the heist the fast you can and then take your sweet time with the game correct? The optimal path is to do whatever makes you happiest and have fun.
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Dec 19, 2020 19:47
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Rinkles posted:that sort of discovery is cooler when you make it on your own, imo
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I would, the other 85% of the game becomes available after that
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chaosapiant posted:No spoilers, but the segment with the Voodoo Boys has, between our notes, at least three possible outcomes. His poo poo played completely different to mine. I'm not there myself quite yet but earlier ITT a bunch of people brought up how they thought their opportunities to deal with/interact with the VBs were incredibly unsatisfying; especially if you're playing as a hacker. Hope they're wrong and you're right!
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Zeta Acosta posted:so the optimal path is do the heist the fast you can and then take your sweet time with the game correct?
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Zeta Acosta posted:so the optimal path is do the heist the fast you can and then take your sweet time with the game correct? Yeah prior to the heist you’re stuck in Watson so you don’t even have access to the majority of the map. Clearing that and opening the game proper is the way to go
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