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Dec 19, 2020 15:14
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Any effort to liberate Hong Kong must center the feelings of their former colonial overlords
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Dec 19, 2020 16:00
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🙏 🙏 🙏
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Dec 19, 2020 16:41
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7a97p/zoom-executive-allegedly-doctored-child-porn-to-smear-tiananmen-square-memorial-activistsquote:American prosecutors have charged a Zoom executive in an elaborate scheme to disrupt video meetings of activists who planned to commemorate the 31st anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre in China. The complaint and arrest warrant for Xinjiang Jin, a Zoom employee and the company’s liaison to Chinese law enforcement, were unsealed by the Department of Justice.
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Dec 19, 2020 18:04
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lmao have these people ever met a single brit
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Dec 19, 2020 19:51
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Everyone in east Asia thinks Britain = Harry Potter and not Trainspotting.
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Dec 19, 2020 19:57
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:32 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Dec 19, 2020 20:00
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I'm the Hong Konger escaping to Britain just in time for the Brexit collapse.
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Dec 19, 2020 20:13
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I'm sure economic ruin from rona and Brexit will make the historically generous and welcoming British people only more excited for millions of Chinese expatriates
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Dec 19, 2020 20:20
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https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1340223089750097920?s=20
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Dec 19, 2020 21:12
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'American politics' discussed in Taiwan are usually a cypher for local politics (obviously) but this is pretty disgusting
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Dec 19, 2020 21:25
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Trump has done more for Taiwan than any other recent US president so I can see why they'd be fans of his. Biden is going to throw them back under the bus except for arms deals again
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Dec 19, 2020 21:43
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Dec 19, 2020 21:48
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Dec 19, 2020 21:53
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Grapplejack posted:Trump has done more for Taiwan than any other recent US president so I can see why they'd be fans of his. Biden is going to throw them back under the bus except for arms deals again Nope, it's more than that. American institutions and money have built an extremely right wing anti-communist international and this is the end result https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1327038760798793729 quote:The Hong Kong Free Press, a local English-language title, has seen a huge backlash over its election coverage. An op-ed this week headlined “President Biden will stand with Hong Kong – more effectively than Trump ever did”, was met with hundreds of negative comments – including baseless accusations that Joe Biden was “in the CCP’s pocket” and assertions that the election result was yet to be decided.
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Dec 19, 2020 21:57
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Btw as far as that BRI story, I looked back and it does seem multilateral institutions connected with China (AIIB, NDB etc) did start accelerating their lending around the same time Chinese state banks pulled back and it seems there are more loans coming from Chinese commercial banks. It seems more of a change in tactics than anything, probably to mitigate some of the risks particularly to CDB/EXIM. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 22:21 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Dec 19, 2020 22:13
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mila kunis posted:Nope, it's more than that. American institutions and money have built an extremely right wing anti-communist international and this is the end result yeah Taiwan sent soldiers to Vietnam in the US portion of the vietnam war lmao
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Dec 19, 2020 22:15
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President Ji sweep little China into the sea
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Dec 19, 2020 23:09
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Antonymous posted:yeah Taiwan sent soldiers to Vietnam in the US portion of the vietnam war lmao Chiang did this in order to endear the us to a hypothetical reconquest of the mainland lmao
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Dec 19, 2020 23:13
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Chomskyan posted:Any effort to liberate Hong Kong must center the feelings of their former colonial overlords The feelings of whoever is most likely to help. It's sad that most of the world doesn't give a gently caress, but they don't have any oil or bananas.
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Dec 19, 2020 23:17
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So how exactly is the CCP going to avoid creating exactly the sort of an exploited underclass of serfs thats going to drive the second american civil war... cuz it just seems that its already there. and since they teach everyone marxism, everyone can see the hypocrisy in the abuses of power that the cliques inside perpetuate seems kinda inevitable that china is going to be facing exactly the same condirions that are already tearing western societies apart
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Dec 19, 2020 23:38
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lollontee posted:So how exactly is the CCP going to avoid creating exactly the sort of an exploited underclass of serfs thats going to drive the second american civil war... cuz it just seems that its already there. and since they teach everyone marxism, everyone can see the hypocrisy in the abuses of power that the cliques inside perpetuate by making sure the people whose goal is "more money at any costs" (which includes a lot of party members) are subordinate to people who prioritize the continuity of party rule
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Dec 19, 2020 23:50
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okay but what if the people who make money at any costs just buy them out
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Dec 19, 2020 23:53
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Stairmaster posted:okay but what if the people who make money at any costs just buy them out Xi has a plan for that. He's playing 5d Xiangqi while his opponents are all playing American checkers
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Dec 19, 2020 23:59
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Stairmaster posted:okay but what if the people who make money at any costs just buy them out ask jack ma. china hasn't proved to be reticent in loving over / jail billionaires that gently caress with national directives. there's also been a massive increase in state intervention in the economy and in private companies in recent years and liberalizers in the CCP have been sidelined.
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Dec 20, 2020 00:08
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lollontee posted:since they teach everyone marxism this is a huge stretch, and besides 'marxism' is more of a living breathing thing in China which means sometimes means serving the people here and now even in spite of dogmatic 19th century economic philosophy but more often means 'revisionism' that's why it's called socialism with Chinese characteristics - because even in chinese that's so nebulous in can justify many policy decisions so long as they abstractly help 'china' or 'chinese people'
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Dec 20, 2020 00:15
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Stairmaster posted:okay but what if the people who make money at any costs just buy them out lol watching some idiot American finally understand the point of a party state is pretty amusing.
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Dec 20, 2020 00:19
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lollontee posted:So how exactly is the CCP going to avoid creating exactly the sort of an exploited underclass of serfs thats going to drive the second american civil war... cuz it just seems that its already there. and since they teach everyone marxism, everyone can see the hypocrisy in the abuses of power that the cliques inside perpetuate sorry to respond a second time but also Capitalism is still not seen as creating an underclass in China, it is still a transformative force that is destroying older forms of poverty China is having a second 'enclosure of the commons' now and while China is very unequal the 'rising tide raises all ships' is actually working so far. When china's consumer market really drives their economy you will see the class squeeze that America has undergone to keep capital satiated but that's not for a few generations
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Dec 20, 2020 00:20
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Grapplejack posted:"""gamers""" This post is so loving excellent!
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Dec 20, 2020 00:22
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lollontee posted:So how exactly is the CCP going to avoid creating exactly the sort of an exploited underclass of serfs thats going to drive the second american civil war... cuz it just seems that its already there. and since they teach everyone marxism, everyone can see the hypocrisy in the abuses of power that the cliques inside perpetuate Marxism is rarely taught enthusiastically or well in China. Most Chinese students treat it like Americans treat middle school civics classes: they take the test and then forget about it. I had to teach some of my college classes about basic Marxist concepts lol
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Dec 20, 2020 00:37
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lollontee posted:So how exactly is the CCP going to avoid creating exactly the sort of an exploited underclass of serfs thats going to drive the second american civil war... cuz it just seems that its already there. and since they teach everyone marxism, everyone can see the hypocrisy in the abuses of power that the cliques inside perpetuate By putting a leash on the capitalists instead of letting them reach the "too big to fail" stage. edit: let me spell it out for you, CCP's iron fist hasn't even touched Mr.Uppity Capitalist Jack Ma yet. You think cancelling his 3 trillion ant group IPO is bad? There will be a few more officials associate with Jack Ma who will be shuanggui'd within say a year, before CCP will unleash the fury on Jack Ma. Maybe some new policy to cut alipay from him or new policy to force it to give access to all chinese banks. Watch out for People's Daily's editorial on e-commerce monopoly and what not. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 01:03 on Dec 20, 2020 |
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Dec 20, 2020 00:40
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Ya the CCP plan since Deng has been: leash the capitalists, crush liberals and anyone, good intentioned or not, who might threaten CCP rule (and thus bring a 90s Russia-like disaster). The idea is that all the liberal-minded party members that might threaten CCP rule are isolated, purged, and too busy trying to make money.
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Dec 20, 2020 00:44
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KaptainKrunk posted:Ya the CCP plan since Deng has been: leash the capitalists, seems like it
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Dec 20, 2020 01:14
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sincx posted:Hahaha the colonized mind personified https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur0bM4-fC_s
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Dec 20, 2020 04:56
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https://twitter.com/rmack/status/1340327929100853254
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Dec 20, 2020 05:07
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https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1339875467302735872
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Dec 20, 2020 05:46
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this is worse than covid
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Dec 20, 2020 05:51
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KaptainKrunk posted:Ya the CCP plan since Deng has been: leash the capitalists 
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Dec 20, 2020 05:57
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more offensive than the sanctions
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Dec 20, 2020 06:04
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Antonymous posted:sorry to respond a second time but also Capitalism is still not seen as creating an underclass in China, it is still a transformative force that is destroying older forms of poverty
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