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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Clement posted:

this loving government is the absolute loving pits. Cannot get over how enormously awful it is. I will loathe the Tories until the day I die.

:hmmyes:

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gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Btw don't remember if anyone posted - France have banned all UK traffic INCLUDING FREIGHT for a minimum of 48 hours.
Lorry park Kent, anyone?

they're using the new strain to flex for the brexit negotiations, the same way theresa may tried to use terrorism to get something out of them a couple years back. only macron is a bigger psychopath so he actually has the bottle to follow thru lmao.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

I admit that I am an outsider looking in, but it seems like you have all made this Brexit stuff far too complex. Brexit means Brexit. Understand that and you too shall be enlightened.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

TACD posted:

This sounds incredible, do you have a link?

I'm really curious what the worst-cast estimates are for lorry queues in Kent because it's guaranteed to be worse than that almost immediately after midnight on New Year's, if not before

Here's the latest:

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340766619937763329?s=20

Earlier tweets:


Eurotunnel and ferries closing from 10pm (ferries not mentioned on this tweet got elsewhere).

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340752654675394560?s=20

Countries blocking travel from UK:

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340762747412344832?s=20

Freight blocked to france.

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340737253182763012?s=20

Basically, follow Paul Brand at the moment. He seems to be keeping folk informed.

Dugong
Mar 18, 2013

I don't know what to do,
I'm going to lose my mind

Maugrim posted:

That's probably the approach we'd have taken in your situation, though as our actual plan was for my wife's dad and brother to come to us we just had to cancel them (they didn't argue).

Mostly just replying to say I saw your avatar and thought you were Video Games until I got to the bit about your boyfriend.

This thread ain’t big enough for two kirbs it is, Kirby is great

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

bedpan posted:

I admit that I am an outsider looking in, but it seems like you have all made this Brexit stuff far too complex. Brexit means Brexit. Understand that and you too shall be enlightened.

There's that cspam humour

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol at boris loving it up so insanely badly europe and more are just cutting us off now

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Jose posted:

lol at boris loving it up so insanely badly europe and more are just cutting us off now

haha this sucks man meme

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

SpicePro posted:

They could be in Scotland. (not too sure about Welsh or NI Sunday trading laws)

Wales and England are you can only trade for 6 hours (usually 10am-4pm) unless you are a smaller shop.

To count as a smaller shop is 280 square metres which is maybe why your smaller Tesco, Sainsburys etc (the 'local' or 'express' stores are open.)

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

lol at boris loving it up so insanely badly europe and more are just cutting us off now

Can't shake the sense that they hammed up the "new strain" thing as much as possible as blame deflection for cancelling Christmas at the last minute and it didn't really occur to them that people in other countries might notice.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

bump_fn posted:

haha this sucks man meme

he'll probably get a poll rise out of this

mr_jolly
Aug 20, 2003

Not so jolly now

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Here's the latest:

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340766619937763329?s=20

Earlier tweets:


Eurotunnel and ferries closing from 10pm (ferries not mentioned on this tweet got elsewhere).

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340752654675394560?s=20

Countries blocking travel from UK:

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340762747412344832?s=20

Freight blocked to france.

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340737253182763012?s=20

Basically, follow Paul Brand at the moment. He seems to be keeping folk informed.

As serious as the situation is, I can't help but lol at boris calling a cobra meeting and crying out how can they do this to the uk?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1340776738897473538?s=20

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
https://twitter.com/davies_will/status/1340758756708257794

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

do you think this will be enough to get the government to admit they're lying about this second strain

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Lol at Johnson: "The thing that I've spent the year telling everyone I was willing to do, was preparing for, would really be great for Britain and that a few days ago I said was probably going to happen has actually happened! Call a COBRA meeting!"

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I'm seeing comments on twitter that the Cabinet were informed of 'the new strain' in September.
Anyone know anything about that?

OK found it was identified in September refs here's one:

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-19/what-do-we-know-know-about-the-new-covid-19-variant

Pretty sure Cabinet would have been informed pretty soon afterwards.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Dec 20, 2020

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008

peanut- posted:

Can't shake the sense that they hammed up the "new strain" thing as much as possible as blame deflection for cancelling Christmas at the last minute and it didn't really occur to them that people in other countries might notice.

I think this is it since most scientific talk on the new strain has been very "not a problem yet, might in a few years".

And that No Deal was always bullshit because now that some of those effects are happening already they're panicking.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I hate to agree with Rafael behr but this seems right


https://twitter.com/David_Oakes/status/1340436750901112834?s=19

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1340776299787395080?s=19

TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Wales and England are you can only trade for 6 hours (usually 10am-4pm) unless you are a smaller shop.

To count as a smaller shop is 280 square metres which is maybe why your smaller Tesco, Sainsburys etc (the 'local' or 'express' stores are open.)

That's why I said Scotland, shops don't have this trade law there! But you can't buy booze in Scotland after 10pm any day of course which is probably worse.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Jose posted:

I hate to agree with Rafael behr but this seems right
i've said it before, he governs like a university student who's used to bluffing his way through exams and tutorials having never done the reading and having it work every time; it's Eton-Oxford brain

gh0stpinballa posted:

do you think this will be enough to get the government to admit they're lying about this second strain
it's going to be extremely funny watching them try and ride the impossibly thin line between "bad enough to cancel Christmas" and "not so bad as to need us to be isolated from the rest of the world"

any decision they take will probably only make things more farcical

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Basically, follow Paul Brand at the moment. He seems to be keeping folk informed.
He seems to think No Deal is official

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340769348596723712

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://twitter.com/LochfyneLangous/status/1340754258908618752?s=20

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
now this is how you end 2020 what a season finale

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Feel like we need an update to the gif of the UK crashing out of the Eurozone diagram and falling off the edge of the world, but where the UK is now also on fire

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I'm seeing comments on twitter that the Cabinet were informed of 'the new strain' in September.
Anyone know anything about that?

OK found it was identified in September refs here's one:

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-19/what-do-we-know-know-about-the-new-covid-19-variant

Pretty sure Cabinet would have been informed pretty soon afterwards.

Lady from PHE was saying it was identified in October from a sample taken in September and it's taken this long to grow enough of it to sequence it and test it and get the results to the government last week.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Thank god we don't live in one

minema
May 31, 2011
I did think they were just dead cat-ing the new strain stuff but today's numbers are pretty crazy and do seem to indicate something is a bit hosed.

Also interesting that the UK does way more genome processing than most countries - that seems pretty cool!

minema fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Dec 20, 2020

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol no deal being official but also starting before christmas to truly gently caress things up should have been expected I guess

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Looks like my trip to shops tomorrow morning Matt be a bit more stockpiley than originally intended.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Absolute lol.


My wife and I were planning to go to Malta for Christmas with my dad. My dad needed this trip because my mum died in January (not covid related) and he's been pretty much in pieces since, and definitely doesn't want to spend Christmas in the UK. We've spent most of today wondering if we could still go or not. I'm not actually certain if it's genuinely illegal to get a flight out or not (all the sources I've looked at have mixed messages) and we were planning to chance it. We already had to take covid tests and get a negative certificate due to Malta's rules so I figured it would be relatively safe for us to travel without risking others.

Well anyway the lab has been overwhelmed and they haven't even issued our certs yet, they're 24 hrs late and we might not get them at all :colbert: And since we've spent the day watching the EU locking us out one by one we figured we'd just be setting ourselves up for a bigger headache if we chance it. Either we get denied boarding, Malta puts a ban in, or worst of all worlds: Malta forces us to quarantine inside the hotel.

At least we're getting all our money back. (and, thankfully, my dad isn't nearly as upset about it as i thought it would be - which has made it easier to deal with)

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Absolute lol.


My wife and I were planning to go to Malta for Christmas with my dad. My dad needed this trip because my mum died in January (not covid related) and he's been pretty much in pieces since, and definitely doesn't want to spend Christmas in the UK. We've spent most of today wondering if we could still go or not. I'm not actually certain if it's genuinely illegal to get a flight out or not (all the sources I've looked at have mixed messages) and we were planning to chance it. We already had to take covid tests and get a negative certificate due to Malta's rules so I figured it would be relatively safe for us to travel without risking others.

Well anyway the lab has been overwhelmed and they haven't even issued our certs yet, they're 24 hrs late and we might not get them at all :colbert: And since we've spent the day watching the EU locking us out one by one we figured we'd just be setting ourselves up for a bigger headache if we chance it. Either we get denied boarding, Malta puts a ban in, or worst of all worlds: Malta forces us to quarantine inside the hotel.

At least we're getting all our money back. (and, thankfully, my dad isn't nearly as upset about it as i thought it would be - which has made it easier to deal with)

gently caress, sorry man :(

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Can't wait for Christmas now, I've basically just asked for alcohol and I'm not sure I can face 2021 sober.

MonkeyLibFront
Feb 26, 2003
Where's the cake?

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Can't wait for Christmas now, I've basically just asked for alcohol and I'm not sure I can face 2021 sober.

Make EGG NOG, makes lots of EGG NOG

https://youtu.be/TIPaH1ncVmU

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

minema posted:

I did think they were just dead cat-ing the new strain stuff but today's numbers are pretty crazy and do seem to indicate something is a bit hosed.

Also interesting that the UK does way more genome processing than most countries - that seems pretty cool!

I don't think they made the existence of a new strain up or anything, but it's also pretty clearly not confined to the UK and a measured announcement would not have caused this international reaction. Instead we got that absurd press conference and Hancock going on TV to tell everyone it's utterly out of control and it's the worstest COVID ever, because they wanted to deflect blame for loving up Christmas at the last minute.

Now they seem stunned that the rest of the world believed them.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

peanut- posted:

Now they seem stunned that the rest of the world believed them.

Yeah well have you seen the poo poo they've been spouting?

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1340718283230724102

amazing just amazing ahahhahahahaha

mr_jolly
Aug 20, 2003

Not so jolly now
Love that there's "growing calls for parliament to be recalled." Will that mean all mps have to physically travel into a tier4 zone and queue around Westminster before returning because Jacob wants things done the old fashioned way?

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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.




"What? No. gently caress. You guys can see our press conferences? Why did no one tell me?"

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