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Veskit posted:Ohhh last questions sorry. Is stock cooling good enough for a 5600x and do I even need to bother overclocking it? Stock cooler is fine if all you do is game with headphones on. As someone mentioned above its louder than aftermarket. You will probably thermal throttle if you use precision boost to OC. You can overclock a 5600x pretty well, I have all core 4.5ghz at 1.2v on mine. Precision boost will do all core 4.65, but it throws 1.42v at it to get there which will overload the stock cooler I'm sure, also that voltage is supposedly unsafe for long term use. I really like my Fuma 2. Edit: on the question of if you should overclock: probably not. You wont realistically see much performance difference in games. Bondematt fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Veskit posted:So basically if the fan is annoying replace it and don’t bother OC for the gaming I’m doing and for long term processor help. Thank you so much all you’ve been a big help The stock Ryzen fan is pretty good apart from potentially spilling over to the RAM slots, imo. But yeah if it's right next to your head it's going to be annoying
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Veskit posted:Ohhh last questions sorry. Is stock cooling good enough for a 5600x and do I even need to bother overclocking it? You can always start with stock cooling. Then down the road if you decide you want to get into overclocking you can buy a beefy cooler. I highly recommend looking at AIOs for overclocking. We have a D15 and its nice but my 280 rad absolutely performs better with the pump cranked up.
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Can I get a sanity check on this build? I've just sorta cribbed my list based off many goon builds so it shouldn't be far off from the norm. The CPU/GPU are already locked in since I have the CPU sitting on my desk in box and the GPU on the way soon. Also do I need to buy some arctic silver for the processor/cooler or does either come with? It's so hard to tell. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($703.98 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.00 @ B&H) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($154.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($279.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($821.49 @ Adorama) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA G1+ 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($123.94 @ Office Depot) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing) Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.73 CFM 120 mm Fans 4-Pack ($16.98 @ Amazon) Total: $2497.03 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-19 14:29 EST-0500
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poemdexter posted:Can I get a sanity check on this build? Sure. Get this NVMe instead of your overpriced Samsung. I would get the full fat NH-D15, not 's', because it comes with two fans. All decent coolers will come with some thermal paste, enough for a couple of applications if you gently caress up, so you don't need to buy more. And don't pay full price for Windows, there's a guy in SA Mart selling keys for $15. Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Been 8 years with my i5-3570k-based system. Whats the current skinny on motherboard brands, is there anything i should specifically be avoiding. Probably going with a 3600x cpu unless a good boxing day sale on something better makes sense (or miracle supply of 5600s appears maybe). This will probably have to last me a good while while slipping under budget. Figure it'll be about $700 CAD range with RAM after taxes...maybe a little more because we got that BC Recovery Benefit coming. lizzyinthesky fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Howdy thread! I have a quick question regarding RAM. I'm in the midst of an upgrade from a: I7 7700K + ASUS Z390 Hero Mobo + 1080ti GPU with 16MB G.Skill RipJaws V DDR4 3200 to a I9 10850K + ASUS Z490 Hero mobo + 3080 GPU + ??? I bought the original RAM back in 2017, and it's rated at 3200 MHz. Would I see any benefit from upgrading it? I assume not, but wanted to run it by the building thread, as there's so much knowledge here. I only really know speed is a major factor to RAM, but I'm not sure if there's anything else I should be looking out for. I don't really plan on overclocking the memory too much but would like the ability to do so if needed. I will be using the pc for gaming/streaming/general video editing.
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Butterfly Valley posted:I would get the full fat NH-D15, not 's', because it comes with two fans. The NH-D15 isn't "full-fat", there's an important difference. On the S, the fin stacks are offset, to avoid clearance issues with the first slot on motherboards; the D15S isn't just a D15 with one fan. The S also comes with extra clips for another fan, if you want to add one. I've been trying to repeat this because it ends up being a real annoyance for some (with the non-S version), and many don't seem to realise it https://noctua.at/en/whats-the-difference-between-nh-d15-and-nh-d15s HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Hello thread. To continue off of my last post, I'm looking to modernize my current PC a bit before retiring it to backup duty and building something new. I have a few thoughts and questions that I'd appreciate help with. Here's my current build: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 Memory Memory: Corsair 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 Memory Storage: SanDisk Extreme 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3 GB Superclocked ACX Video Card Power Supply: SeaSonic X 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case Questions: CPU/Mobo: I don't really see much to be done with these parts (can't overclock), and I don't think it's worth it to buy new parts for a years-old PC, so this will probably become the bottleneck once I upgrade anything else. Memory: Although they're technically two different modules of RAM, I can't find any meaningful difference between them, except the Vengeance has a heat spreader on it for $3 more. Same clock speed, latency, etc. Would I be able to overclock these two together, or would they have to be the exact same modules of RAM for that? Storage: I've been able to make the 120GB SSD work all this time, but it's certainly becoming a bit anemic for modern needs. The Crucial MX500 1TB seems like it would be a good addition; it appears to have good price/performance, good $/GB, and 1024MB of cache. Thoughts on that, or suggestions? GPU: I'd like to upgrade to at least a 10XX series card. Ideally, I'd like to buy my friend's 1050Ti once he gets a 3060, but that could be quite a while. Any suggestions for a good replacement? I'd like to be able to max frames on everything at 1080p@75Hz. Any good deals on SA Mart right now? PSU: Would it be worth it to replace my 6 year old PSU? I haven't had any issues with it, but I know you shouldn't gently caress around with PSUs. How can I check if mine is still covered under warranty? Case/Fans: I had to unplug all my case fans because, one by one, they all started making very annoying squeaking noises. Is there a good way to remedy that, and/or what should I replace them with?
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Wowporn posted:As someone with a 1 year older build than you I think you could get by a little longer with a gpu upgrade but after that I would just save up to eventually replace everything. Depends on what resolution you're using though.
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One of my friends built a computer last year and at the time he didn’t know just how different SSD was than HD, Until he fixed it he had a couple weeks where his download speed on fiber was consistently outrunning his ability to write anything to his hard drive.
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Acer Pilot posted:Updated the build I want for myself. Probably going to end up gaming on this most of the time but I will also code on this occasionally and that will require some VMs/containers running. hi folks, some of you were recommending i just get a cheaper storage device. stupid question, i'm going to have the store assemble/test everything for me, can i just not buy an ssd from them and have them build assemble still? they dont need one to post right? i was looking at all the other brands you suggested and they seem pretty good and cheaper but canada computers doesn't carry a lot of them. i was thinking i'd just order one from this list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...,444,111,38&t=0 and install it myself. i'm guessing it's not too hard to install one of these after its built? alternatively they have this in stock: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/xM97YJ/hp-ex950-2-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-5ms24aaabc thanks!
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I managed to snag a 5600X from newegg which I plan to pair with a 3070 or 3060 whenever that happens. Are there any 'baseline' recommendations for parts on this level before I go down the rabbit hole of reviews? I am not up to date on things like which manufacturers are considered reliable, etc. I already have SSDs that I can move over to this new box but none are NVMe. Are far as I can tell performance for games would not really improve compared to the SATA I already have, is this correct?
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Acer Pilot posted:i was looking at all the other brands you suggested and they seem pretty good and cheaper but canada computers doesn't carry a lot of them. They seem to currently have the WD Blue SN550 2TB, which is the usual recommendation.
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CampingCarl posted:I managed to snag a 5600X from newegg which I plan to pair with a 3070 or 3060 whenever that happens. Are there any 'baseline' recommendations for parts on this level before I go down the rabbit hole of reviews? I am not up to date on things like which manufacturers are considered reliable, etc. I think I have something in my post history for this, please hold. Edit: here we go (assuming I’m understanding you right and you’re asking about video card manufacturers) Boxman posted:Pretty sure it's all fine. The big differences are differences in support and warranty, which is all sort of edge case anyway since hopefully nothing bad happens. In that, I think PNY has questionable support, evga has notably good support, and everyone else is just sort of "fine."
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Acer Pilot posted:Updated the build I want for myself. Probably going to end up gaming on this most of the time but I will also code on this occasionally and that will require some VMs/containers running. Acer Pilot posted:hi folks, some of you were recommending i just get a cheaper storage device. stupid question, i'm going to have the store assemble/test everything for me, can i just not buy an ssd from them and have them build assemble still? they dont need one to post right? Saukkis posted:They seem to currently have the WD Blue SN550 2TB, which is the usual recommendation. So I went in and bought all the parts I listed but without an SSD, cooler, or ram. Apparently the ram and cooler are all OOS and special order (no refunds or ETAs). i just bought the ram and a cooler at memex. guess i just need to pick an ssd! Acer Pilot fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Dec 20, 2020 |
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Boxman posted:I think I have something in my post history for this, please hold.
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literally this big posted:Oh, I certainly plan on building a whole new PC once the 5900x and 3080 become more widely available. This is just to upgrade (and have some fun) with my current rig before turning it into a home media / guest / backup computer. It's lasted me 6 years so far, and I'm hoping to get another ~4 years of backup use out of it. I think it’d be OK to leave it as is unless something is broken or you don’t have an SSD. More memory wouldn’t be a horrible idea, but it won’t offer more performance unless you need the extra capacity. I don’t know if you can overclock the memory at all on that particular chipset anyway. You could swap the video card, and a cheap 1050 Ti wouldn’t be a horrible move, but a 780 can still play a fair number of games. Anything with a bigger number would be cool too, and maybe it’d pay to save up and snag a GPU you could use in a new build, like a 3060 Ti. So yeah, I’d save as much as you can for sweet new PC parts. The old one will probably be fine for now for what it is.
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Thanks for the advice, I decided to go with a Noctua NH-U12S + 5600x combo. I know the reference cooler should be enough, but I wanted something a bit more quiet and efficient than the Wraith Stealth. The one I have on my 2600x gets pretty loud under heavy load with some pretty worrying temps.
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Had one of these Cooler Master Hyper T4 cpu fans for my recent 3700x/1660s build, and while one of the two systems is still running it fine, mine suddenly died the other day, with a bit of odd oil-like moisture on the fan once I took it out. I dropped in the stock cooler, and honestly it's been pretty nice? No louder than it was before, if anything, and while the RGB is a bit goofy it's kinda nice. Er, right. The Hyper T4, any other odd experiences with it? I'm wondering if I should bite the bullet and just swap out the other tower's as well.
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nitsuga posted:I think it’d be OK to leave it as is unless something is broken or you don’t have an SSD. More memory wouldn’t be a horrible idea, but it won’t offer more performance unless you need the extra capacity. I don’t know if you can overclock the memory at all on that particular chipset anyway. My 780 has done a wonderful job staying relevant into the age of the 3080, but it's definitely beginning to show its age. I mentioned a 1050Ti specifically since I might buy one off a friend, and since Nvidia GPUs starting with the 1XXX series are also FreeSync enabled in addition to GSync (if I'm remembering correctly), which seems like a good way to improve image quality in some situations while still capped at 75Hz. But any decently priced 1XXX or 2XXX series card would do. Is Display Port generally preferred over HDMI?
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literally this big posted:I think I'll definitely be getting a 1TB SSD. Thoughts on the Crucial MX500, or suggestions? Unfortunately this mobo's max RAM is 16GB, and I don't have the capability to overclock, beyond enabling/disabling a few built-in settings, so no room to upgrade there. Though I did find out in the BIOS that the Vengeance stick is ever so slightly faster than the regular stick; should I move the faster stick to DIMM Slot 1, does that matter? Sorry, quoted your other post for brevity and missed some of your questions. Anyway, yeah an MX500 is good SSD. It costs a little more than say a Team, but I think the ~$10 or so if worth it. As for the RAM, it looks like you only have two slots to choose from anyway. I'd put it in the open one and see if you can either run the slower stick slightly faster. Worst case, you can't, and you run the faster stick a little slower, probably to no significant performance loss. Your motherboard's manual seems to suggest you can manually pick memory speeds, so it's worth trying I think. You're right about the GPU. It looks like G-Sync HDR came into play with 1050 and newer cards. If you have a monitor that supports that, it could be worth picking up a card that comes with those features. Right now, the market's all hosed, but you might be able to snag a 1650 or 1650 Super at a reasonable price if you scrounge around enough (if the 1050 Ti doesn't work out). A 3050 is probably in the works too, but that may or not be worth holding out hope for. Last but not least, DisplayPort is definitely the preferred input and is required for G-Sync, but FreeSync can run over HDMI as well.
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meteor9 posted:Had one of these Cooler Master Hyper T4 cpu fans for my recent 3700x/1660s build, and while one of the two systems is still running it fine, mine suddenly died the other day, with a bit of odd oil-like moisture on the fan once I took it out. I dropped in the stock cooler, and honestly it's been pretty nice? No louder than it was before, if anything, and while the RGB is a bit goofy it's kinda nice. The fan probably got banged up at some point and started slowly leaking lubricant, the same thing happened to one of the fans that came with my current case
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Newegg Canada) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4 GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (Purchased For $0.00) Power Supply: EVGA G2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (Purchased For $0.00) External Storage: Seagate Expansion 8 TB External Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) External Storage: Seagate Backup Plus Hub 8 TB External Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Assuming any Boxing Day sales would be posted by now, likely will pull the trigger on this today. Rig will be for gaming and multimedia viewing primarily. I'll start looking for a new GPU in the next 3-9mos in case there are any you'd recommend I throw a price alert on. edit: Looking at compatible RAM on PC Part Picker and Pangoly, they seem to differ, Part Picker says this is compatible, Pangoly does not: https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-...TViZZh7EEhCpoNg Levin fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Dec 20, 2020 |
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Corte posted:edit: Looking at compatible RAM on PC Part Picker and Pangoly, they seem to differ, Part Picker says this is compatible, Pangoly does not: https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-...TViZZh7EEhCpoNg do the manufacturer sites not have compat. info? I wouldn't rely on any third party sites for that
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Good to know, thanks! I tried looking up QVL for motherboard on MSI's website but it wouldn't load for some reason.
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Time to upgrade my rig. I'm looking for not just playing VR, but to also record VR gameplay. My current rig just cannot handle recording and playing. This is what I got: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gv7F4C When it comes to recording it seems to be a CPU problem, so I'm thinking of swapping in: Motherboard: Asus Rog Strix B550 F Gaming CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X E: PSU: EVGA G1+ 750 W 80 I'll eventually get a new GPU, when prices aren't covid hosed, I'm thinking of something in the 3070 series. Would this be able to play VR at a stable framerate and also record the gameplay? E: Changed the PSU as it didn't have the required pins Leal fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Dec 20, 2020 |
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My friend went and bought a retail box Ryzen 7 3800X which came with a heatsink & fan that uses a clip-on type mounting attachment. Unfortunately the motherboard in his computer (Asus PRIME B450-PLUS) has that sort of in a rectangle arrangement 4 screw holes + backplate mounting. What's a good mid-range not poo poo quality AM4 fan/heatsink combo to get ? Just for normal daily use, no overclocking or such.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:PSU is good. Awesome! Thank you all for the help. Now I guess i'll join everyone else hitting f5 and cursing intel for not putting out something remotely competitive to AMD so there wasn't so much competition for parts.
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Between RAM with CAS timing 16, is there much of a difference with the rest of the timing numbers? 16-16-16-36 RAM seems to be a bit pricier than 16-19-19-39
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Booyah- posted:Between RAM with CAS timing 16, is there much of a difference with the rest of the timing numbers? You might be able to tell if you're running benchmarks, but even then it's going to be single digit percentage points.
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All the parts for my new pc finally came, and I have it mostly assembled. I'm a little nervous to turn it on though, is it possible to gently caress up any of the components if I've hooked them up to the PSU incorrectly somehow? What if one of the components isn't hooked up at all (I think they are but I might be missing something and I don't want to mess this up)
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SoR Blaze posted:All the parts for my new pc finally came, and I have it mostly assembled. I'm a little nervous to turn it on though, is it possible to gently caress up any of the components if I've hooked them up to the PSU incorrectly somehow? What if one of the components isn't hooked up at all (I think they are but I might be missing something and I don't want to mess this up) Nope. Everything is keyed to only plug in one way. If something is not plugged in at all, it won’t get power, simple as that
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vanilla slimfast posted:Nope. Everything is keyed to only plug in one way. If something is not plugged in at all, it won’t get power, simple as that That's what I figured, but as a first timer I'm a little nervous. Thanks for clarifying!
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SoR Blaze posted:That's what I figured, but as a first timer I'm a little nervous. Thanks for clarifying! If for some reason it doesn’t boot or POST, don’t panic, this thread can help you through troubleshooting
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I'm helping a friend build a computer and this is what we're looking at right now: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m2NDQD He's a musician and he mostly wants this for work: music and video editing (perhaps at 4K), recording and streaming. It shouldn't be too loud, either. He might also do some gaming with it and might want to upgrade the graphic card in the future, but for the most part right now it's all about the CPU. I haven't checked the QVL for the ram (since the mobo isn't locked down yet) so that's just a placeholder. The rest of it isn't set in stone either, so any feedback would be nice. Is the mobo a good idea or would something cheaper do the trick? Is it possible to install the NH-U14S without any adapters? Also he really wants fast RAM but is that overkill? I'm not sure a 3733 CL19 is gonna be better than a lower timing 3600 or something like that, even assuming it's compatible with the motherboard. Then again I'm used to building gaming PCs so I might be off the mark there.
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The X570 boards actually have a small (loud, high pitched) chipset fan. He'd be much better served with a B550 board in my opinion for an audio specific setup. The other option is to shell out for the $700 Aorus Xtreme if you can get one since it's a passively cooled X570 board  https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme/p/N82E16813145158?Item=N82E16813145158
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