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Jakabite posted:How can he stand there and acknowledge that tier 3 is factually not enough to stop or slow the spread then not move the whole country into tier 4?? That would be an admission that the tier system has failed.
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stev posted:That would be an admission that the tier system has failed. They can just keep adding tiers.
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stev posted:That would be an admission that the tier system has failed. He just admitted that though! That’s the weird thing
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stev posted:So is there any reason they aren't coming into effect tomorrow other than 'we don't want the press of ruining Christmas twice in one week'? Yes it's this Jakabite posted:He just admitted that though! That’s the weird thing He said at the start that the Tier system was (apparently) working in the north (please don't look at the places in the north also going into Tier 4).
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sinky posted:They can just keep adding tiers. As well really that they started at tier 1, otherwise we would be in S+++ tier by february.
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We're going to be in s*** tier by February regardless of what they call it.
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Jakabite posted:He just admitted that though! That’s the weird thing It's our old friend the politically convenient new strain of the virus! quote:The old tiering system is not enough to control the new strain of the virus, the health secretary said.
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Darn if it weren't for the new strain, things would otherwise be going swimmingly. Alas.
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Guavanaut posted:We're going to be in s*** tier by February regardless of what they call it. This will unlock the hidden ending of the UK
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Pictured: Tier 3 containing the virus
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So with death rates being as far as I can tell strongly related to hospitals getting overloaded, are we close to the point where deaths rocket into the stratosphere because there’s no room in hospitals?
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We're at the same levels of covid patient hospitalisation as April, so yes pretty drat near
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ffs the colour scheme here man https://twitter.com/JoshHalliday/status/1341764180140056580?s=20
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Matt Hancock to journalist: "you're so tempting" that was extremely uncomfortable
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Getting towards to part of the year where the NHS traditionally takes a kicking anyway doesn't help either
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Hancock said he was certain it'll be over by 2022. So 2025 it is then
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Get ready to hear lots of thisquote:Hancock stresses there is a “personal responsibility” for the public and them minimising contact over the Christmas period.
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stev posted:That would be an admission that the tier system has failed. Tier 3 has actually been pretty effective in West Yorkshire at least, every area is now under 170 cases per 100,000, some significantly so. Even Bradford which was at over 600 mid-November is at 163 as of last week. It’s only failed in how slow the government has been at reacting to changes (most specifically in London and the South East)
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happyhippy posted:Hancock said he was certain it'll be over by 2022. I thought it was going to be over by Christmas, Boris said so himself
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And its now NOT the UK variant. Its NOW the SOUTH AFRICAN variant. Got it!
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Oh dear me posted:There are better ways to increase rail capacity, in ways that would do more to regenerate northern and midlands towns, like rehabilitating the lines that were cut by Beeching; but they would not be high speed. We are doing that a lot. In some cases it's reopening to passenger services lines currently only open to freight, in other cases it's re-laying track through what is railway land that people have conveniently extended their back gardens into over the past 40 years. Design standards have changed massively and it's not just the curve radii that cause you problems. But to get people to shift off the roads you need convenient long distance journeys on rail, which means minimal changes between trains, which means the trains have to do more than ricochet between two adjacent stations. For a train to get from say Lincoln to Birmingham you have to cross the East Coast Main Line at Newark, the Midlands Main Line at Long Eaton, the Cross Country route at Derby and then you've to fight your way into Birmingham with about 90 other train services. All of that congestion would be reduced by HS2. Taking traffic off the network, particularly long distance high speed traffic, and moving it onto an entirely new route opens up opportunities to run other services. That said, 100 billion could be spent very well by grade separating Newark, diving under Long Eaton, plain lining Derby and double deckering Birmingham New Street, then doing a similar thing for every other major rail intersection North of London and South of Leeds. But that's never been on offer. If you offer most politicians the choice, they'd rather have a single 100 foot high statue of themselves than one hundred 1 foot high statues.
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happyhippy posted:And its now NOT the UK variant. May be too late for that https://twitter.com/codendahl/status/1341396778365710337?s=21
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Noxville posted:Tier 3 has actually been pretty effective in West Yorkshire at least, every area is now under 170 cases per 100,000, some significantly so. Even Bradford which was at over 600 mid-November is at 163 as of last week. It’s only failed in how slow the government has been at reacting to changes (most specifically in London and the South East) Half of the period you're referring to wasn't Tier 3 restrictions, it was November lockdown which is the small downward slope on that graph I posted. As soon as they stop using the word lockdown and go back to numbered tiers, fewer people take it seriously.
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happyhippy posted:And its now NOT the UK variant. This is another variant altogether. They've only tracked 2 cases of it in the UK
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Tarnop posted:This is another variant altogether. They've only tracked 2 cases of it in the UK I stand corrected. Thought from the way they were talking about it trying to claim the first one came from elsewhere
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So it seems my little sister who is a rabid anti masker and been on all the marches has decided to go home from tier four London to tier one cornwall where my 83 old grandad is in a support bubble with my mother. I'm being told not to rock the boat, literally pulling my hair out now.
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MonkeyLibFront posted:So it seems my little sister who is a rabid anti masker and been on all the marches has decided to go home from tier four London to tier one cornwall where my 83 old grandad is in a support bubble with my mother. I'm being told not to rock the boat, literally pulling my hair out now. Rock that boat.
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CGI Stardust posted:just preserving it for posterity Same energy https://twitter.com/FergusCraig/status/1334446455432613888
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If you ever need to explain the British media to anyone just compare whatever left wing hate fest that's going on to the utter silence of Matt Handcock standing far too close to a woman with an obvious erection.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Rock that boat. I do all the time, then she says I'm bullying, I point out that he's 83, she says it's no more harm than the flu, I said he has asthma so is in the really high risk percentile, then my mum gives me a ring asking me to stop being antagonistic. Sorry for the E/N But if anything happens to him I'll probably kill her. MonkeyLibFront fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:If you ever need to explain the British media to anyone just compare whatever left wing hate fest that's going on to the utter silence of Matt Handcock standing far too close to a woman with an obvious erection. Seems like maybe she brushes it with the back of her hand before moving her bag in as a cock-block. Very weird!
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MonkeyLibFront posted:I do all the time, then she says I'm bullying, I point out that he's 83, she says it's no more harm than the flu, I said he has asthma so is in the really high risk percentile, then my mum gives me a ring asking me to stop being antagonistic. I rocked the boat and now don't talk to my brother anymore.
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Looking forwards to more turbocharged entrepreneuring like this after brexit. Britain: The birthplace of the spitfire, radar, pork scratchings and Covid20. Covid19 was getting passé anyway.
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Julio Cruz posted:even if Covid was no more harm than the flu (which is demonstrably untrue) the flu is still pretty loving dangerous for an 83-year-old Problem is, too many people call a heavy cold 'flu' so they think they've had real flu but they haven't.
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Miftan posted:I rocked the boat and now don't talk to my brother anymore. Did you knock him overboard?
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Miftan posted:I rocked the boat and now don't talk to my brother anymore. It's no skin off my nose if I never talk to her tbh, mum's so blazé about it, I wouldn't care if she thought the world was flat but she's literally spent the last 3 months hanging about with anti Vaxers. Julio Cruz posted:even if Covid was no more harm than the flu (which is demonstrably untrue) the flu is still pretty loving dangerous for an 83-year-old Exactly and as said before people pass of a bad cold as the flu when it really isn't. MonkeyLibFront fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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