Jakabite posted:

are we close to the point where deaths rocket into the stratosphere because there’s no room in hospitals?

DesperateDan posted:

New Vegas is an absolutely fantastic game that I have now played too many times- even after not playing for years it's still too familiar

Fallout 4 I played at release and didn't enjoy much, but I got the dlc and a few mods and gave it a go during lockdown and it's a lot better with them- it doesn't change the main story but a bit like skyrim the enjoyment is in exploring, fighting and ignoring the plot

The concept of obsidian being allowed enough time to properly develop another fallout game is pretty exciting- new vegas had a lot of plot/content that was cut due to being rushed out

Moonwolf posted:

Did you knock him overboard?

MonkeyLibFront posted:

It's no skin off my nose if I never talk to her tbh, mum's so blazé about it, I wouldn't care if she thought the world was flat but she's literally spent the last 3 months hanging about with anti Vaxers.

MonkeyLibFront posted:

So it seems my little sister who is a rabid anti masker and been on all the marches has decided to go home from tier four London to tier one cornwall where my 83 old grandad is in a support bubble with my mother. I'm being told not to rock the boat, literally pulling my hair out now.

HidaO-Win posted:

Miftan posted:

Is Obsidian making another Fallout???

EvilHawk posted:

Tier 4's for basically the entirety of South East England from Boxing Day

Necrothatcher posted:

What does the grandad think of this?

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'd imagine that nobody on the mainland of Great Britain is more than 2 degrees of separation from someone in London

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Article on Sweden's covid response and how they are about the world's worst now in terms of deaths / million.
Apparently Norway has putted armed border guards to prevent people coming from Sweden.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/22/sweden-coronavirus-covid-response/

Make your sister read it.
All these people who say masking etc doesn't work and just don't seem to get how much worse things would be without it.

Lungboy posted:

Apologies if it's been pointed out already, but Blair is chatting poo poo and the press aren't pointing out the glaring error. The Pfizer vaccine isn't 90% effective after the first dose and 95% after the second, it's 90% after the second and 95% a week later. It's actually only 52% effective after the first dose: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826#:~:text=The%20study%2C%20published%20in%20the,cases%20in%20the%20placebo%20group.
So no, Tony, that would be a spectacularly poo poo idea.

Lungboy posted:

Tony, that would be a spectacularly poo poo idea.

MonkeyLibFront posted:

He knows she skeptical of it all but I don't think he knows about her mixing with the Phil Shiner crowd.

Necrothatcher posted:

Call him and tell him. I mean it could be literally his life on the line. He should know what's going on.

MonkeyLibFront posted:

Yeah I will be , just need to get past mum on the phone

Lungboy posted:

Apologies if it's been pointed out already, but Blair is chatting poo poo and the press aren't pointing out the glaring error. The Pfizer vaccine isn't 90% effective after the first dose and 95% after the second, it's 90% after the second and 95% a week later. It's actually only 52% effective after the first dose: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826#:~:text=The%20study%2C%20published%20in%20the,cases%20in%20the%20placebo%20group.
So no, Tony, that would be a spectacularly poo poo idea.

Mourning Due posted:

I went and doorknocked with the local party in our new neighbourhood. loving dreadful experience. First the official emails had two different meeting points, so half the people went to the wrong place. Then they wasted like 30 minutes just nattering about previous elections. When we went knocking it was immediately "Hello my name is Brian oval office from you local Labour party, how do you feel about issue X? Ok, how do you feel about issue Y? Ok, how do you feel about issue Z?" without any follow-up or commentary on "this is how the Labour manifesto will help someone who feels like you". To top it all off, at the end we had a big "we did what we can but it's hopeless because of Corbyn" session at the end.

In the end the Tories increased their share in our area. Big surprise. Never again.

Doorknocking really didn't seem like the answer, especially first thing on a Sunday morning, most people seemed hung over and pissed off at having someone bother them at home. I kept thinking, maybe we should be in the parking lot of a big grocery store or in a mall or something, somewhere that we could be doing little social good deeds like helping people carry their groceries, in return for listening our rhetoric. Showing people "hey this is what society could be like, people helping people, instead of just helping themselves".

Not now though, bloody Kiev Abstarmer's useless. I've said since the beginning: I'm all about policies. If he came with the exact manifesto that Corbyn did, I'd back him in a second. But I've got no idea what the man stands for (other than purges), so how can I support him?

Julio Cruz posted:

any other HSBC account-holders recently get a letter from them with a cheque attached?

Saros posted:

Oof 52% is much worse than I thought it would be. The one dose idea can get in the bin.

quote:

Simulation experiments revealed that to prevent an epidemic (reduce the peak by >99%), the vaccine efficacy has to be at least 60% when vaccination coverage is 100% (reproduction number=2.5–3.5). This vaccine efficacy threshold rises to 70% when coverage drops to 75% and up to 80% when coverage drops to 60% when reproduction number is 2.5, rising to 80% when coverage drops to 75% when the reproduction number is 3.5. To extinguish an ongoing epidemic, the vaccine efficacy has to be at least 60% when coverage is 100% and at least 80% when coverage drops to 75% to reduce the peak by 85%–86%, 61%–62%, and 32% when vaccination occurs after 5%, 15%, and 30% of the population, respectively, have already been exposed to COVID-19 coronavirus. A vaccine with an efficacy between 60% and 80% could still obviate the need for other measures under certain circumstances such as much higher, and in some cases, potentially unachievable, vaccination coverages.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Article on Sweden's covid response and how they are about the world's worst now in terms of deaths / million.
Apparently Norway has putted armed border guards to prevent people coming from Sweden.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/22/sweden-coronavirus-covid-response/

Make your sister read it.
All these people who say masking etc doesn't work and just don't seem to get how much worse things would be without it.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

WHERE DO I GET THAT JUMPER??????

goddamnedtwisto posted:

TBH I thought that was already the case.

If not, it shows the utter stupidity of doing it even by areas as large as nations, but certainly as small as local authorities. I'm willing to bet every single settlement of more than a hundred people within 50 miles of Charing Cross has at least one person who's travelled into London in the last two weeks, and given people commute into London from as far away as loving *Devon* I'd imagine that nobody on the mainland of Great Britain is more than 2 degrees of separation from someone in London; the idea that Cambridgeshire (the first local authority I could see currently in Tier 2) would somehow miraculously avoid infection is either staggering incompetence or the purest malice.

You'd think a government that puts so much stead in "behavioural insight" would realise all that you do with this piecemeal poo poo is *accelerate* the spread to lower-tier areas by both encouraging people with the opportunity to do so to move to lower tier areas (and how many people in London do you think have families outside of London? Willing to bet it's in the millions), and also engenders a false sense of security in those lower tier areas. Actual roadblocks and checkpoints between areas are the only thing that would stop this.

Also nobody seems to give a poo poo about "Tier 4" in London. Masks are getting less prevalent in shops (big, big fan of the woman who took hers off to have an incredibly loud phone conversation in front of me in the queue this morning), I saw a couple of packed buses heading towards Canary Wharf, and although the shops are mostly closed there's still an awful lot of people out and about (admittedly I was one of them, albeit combining exercise and essential shopping by walking loving miles to pick up some cat food). Apart from the cafes going back to takeaway only it doesn't really feel that much different than Tier 2 did.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

You'd think a government that puts so much stead in "behavioural insight" would realise all that you do with this piecemeal poo poo is *accelerate* the spread to lower-tier areas by both encouraging people with the opportunity to do so to move to lower tier areas (and how many people in London do you think have families outside of London? Willing to bet it's in the millions), and also engenders a false sense of security in those lower tier areas. Actual roadblocks and checkpoints between areas are the only thing that would stop this.

Also nobody seems to give a poo poo about "Tier 4" in London. Masks are getting less prevalent in shops (big, big fan of the woman who took hers off to have an incredibly loud phone conversation in front of me in the queue this morning), I saw a couple of packed buses heading towards Canary Wharf, and although the shops are mostly closed there's still an awful lot of people out and about (admittedly I was one of them, albeit combining exercise and essential shopping by walking loving miles to pick up some cat food). Apart from the cafes going back to takeaway only it doesn't really feel that much different than Tier 2 did.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Article on Sweden's covid response and how they are about the world's worst now in terms of deaths / million.
Apparently Norway has putted armed border guards to prevent people coming from Sweden.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/22/sweden-coronavirus-covid-response/

Make your sister read it.
All these people who say masking etc doesn't work and just don't seem to get how much worse things would be without it.

MonkeyLibFront posted:

She reads poo poo like this

https://thecritic.co.uk/face-masks-make-you-stupid/

MonkeyLibFront posted:

https://thecritic.co.uk/face-masks-make-you-stupid/

Guavanaut posted:

I like how it starts off by saying that the plan is to make people more docile and compliant, and then post a bunch of studies about how masks increase noncompliance and rule breaking.

Were they expecting their readers to have forgotten the intro by the time they got to that bit?

quote:

The key word here is docile, which comes from the Latin docere, meaning “to teach” (as does, say, ‘doctorate’ and ‘document’). Being docile means being compliant and following commands, which means submitting to a system of thought.

quote:

Children without a mask broke the rule, taking more chocolates, 37% of the time, compared to 62% for masked children. The authors concluded that masks “lead to lower restraints on behaviour”.

quote:

The point of face masks is not to protect humans, but to diminish humanity – to rob people of their ego, their identity, and their autonomy.

MonkeyLibFront posted:

It's so disjointed that it's hard to find where to start when in picking it, which I guess is the point so you just give up.

stupid article posted:

through a bombardment of lies, contradictions, and confusion, the state overwhelms your ability to reason clearly.

Guavanaut posted:

Abstract


Results


Conclusion


Masks make you more docile and less autonomous by reducing your restraints and likelihood of following rules.



through a bombardment of lies, contradictions, and confusion, the Critic overwhelms your ability to reason clearly.

communism bitch posted:

Someone ITT a couple months ago mentioned off-handedly that Turkish barbers are like secret spa days for men. Having never tried one, and there being a new Turkish barber in my town literally opposite me, I figured I'd give them a shot before they have to close again in Lockdown 3.
Went in expecting a 15 minute cut and shave, spent 1hr 20 minutes being treated like a loving king. Cut, style, shave (clipper and straight razor) they set my ears on fire, karate chopped my arms, cracked my joints(????), wrapped my entire naked body in a steaming onesie, waxed my nostrils, and gave me Turkish delight (not a euphemism) all for £22. I normally spend £15 for a 15 minute haircut that ends up looking worse than when I started. On top of it all they didn't even seem to need any particular instructions; they just did it, an I came out looking at least twice as handsome as when I went in.

Patronise your Turkish barber; you won't regret it.

e: I literally feel too fancy to be sitting at home after that.

sebzilla posted:

https://twitter.com/troovus/status/1341751134692790272?s=19

"Don't trash the last four years."