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CheeseSpawn posted:PCPartPicker Part List 750w is the minimum quoted spec for a 3080, 850w is quoted for the higher power cards (FTW3, etc). 800w is likely not overkill if you plan any OC or wanna throw a bunch of HDDs in there. You can get away witha 550w on a 3070, but since you're buying one new and the price difference isn't huge I'd jump on any model from a good brand thats 750w+ and Gold+. Higher power PSUs are in very low supply right now. Expect to probably spend $100-$140 for a good one. Seasonic, Superflower, Corsair (certain lines like RM/x), EVGA tend to be rated high. There are others.
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Hey everyone, I could use some assistance filling in the blanks here - Everything on the list has already been purchased (by a christmas miracle I landed one of my top choice 3080s and a 5900x). I'll be moving my existing storage over I'm not sure what to get for memory. I've read about speed, timings, pcb layers, different dyes and am just kind of lost at this point. As for a case, I really like the look/size of the Fractal Meshify C but am concerned a future video card upgrade may not fit (or this card/CPU cooler may not even fit). What's a good (and available) alternative or am I being dumb and should I get the C? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.90 @ Amazon) Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste ($5.94 @ ModMyMods) Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Help! Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($861.49 @ Adorama) Case: Also halp Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Total: $1117.32 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-23 16:13 EST-0500
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mexpak posted:Hey everyone, I could use some assistance filling in the blanks here - I believe Noctua coolers come with thermal paste, fyi
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Gaming + home office. Last put together a PC for myself circa 2010. Starting to need a more serious computer for work purposes than my Chromebook, so figured I might as well get back into PC gaming while I’m at it. As far as gaming needs, I’m mostly playing Civ6/HOI4 and things of that nature. Usually playing big budget games on a 1-2 year delay anyway. What's your budget? $700-800 If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? 1080p (on a lovely years old TV), but room to grow in 6ish months. This is a “budget” build that I expect to be able to upgrade to a better GPU in a year or so when my financial situation should be markedly improved (and hopefully the market has stabilized) Just pulled the trigger on a 1660 Super and basically need a sanity check on this build before I go in too deep. If there’s anything I can do to shave off the price down to $800, that’d be fantastic. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($108.99 @ Amazon) Memory: *Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($74.99 @ B&H) Storage: *Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB GAMING Video Card (Purchased For $239.99) Case: *Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: *Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.98 @ Newegg) Total: $887.91 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-23 16:40 EST-0500 Questions: 1) Motherboard - Basically just picked this because it was actually the cheapest B550 available at the time. But now I’ve bought a 3 fan GPU and I’m concerned about building on a Micro ATX board when I’m building for the first time in a decade. I’d be happy with something in this price range and something has WiFi built in so I don’t have to think about it. 2) Storage - Wondering if it’s better just get a 500gb drive like this to start since it’s on sale and could help bring my overall cost down to budget. My only concern is my 10 year old computer is sitting around something like 400gb installed right now. Is it better to just add a 1TB regular SDD down the road?
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mexpak posted:Hey everyone, I could use some assistance filling in the blanks here - Ideally, you'll pick a ram kit that's on your motherboards QVL list for the best possible results. You should be aiming for 2x16GB (you can go 2x8 if you want, but 2x16 is said to run best), 3600mhz @ CL-16. If it's too pricey, go for 3200mhz @ CL-16 instead of sacrificing on timing. Aim for brands you recognize like Crucial, G-Skill, etc. Most 2x16 kits will be basically the same at those speeds/timings. Look at the Meshify 2 instead of the C https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/meshify/meshify-2/black/ It's larger, but can accommodate GPUs up to 467mm (literally any current GPU) with 2x HDDs (or more if you mount them in fan slots), and up to 315mm with a fuckton (like 11) of HDDs. 315mm covers all the 3080 models except the biggest bois (even fits the FTW3).
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Eustyce McGillicutt posted:What country are you in? I would not try to shove 400GB plus games and new data onto a 500GB drive. Many AAA games are 100GB+ now. Unless you really need to crunch your budget, or you can bring an SSD from your old build on top of the NVME, you should keep the 1tb. I have a 500gb and it sucks, even though I have like 25TB of spinning HDD storage. If your intent is to upgrade the GPU down the line, you really should push the PSU to a 750w (650w may be ok if 750w's are too much). 3080 official minimum is 750, but you can get away with less. This ASUS board is well regarded and has wifi. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WCcRsY/asus-prime-b550m-a-wi-fi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b550m-a-wi-fi mATX is fine. It's the same as ATX just slightly more cramped. And mATX is almost always cheaper.
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So I ended up pulling the trigger and ordering this, I decided to splurge and went with the overpriced Samsung storage. PCPartPicker and the thread didn't complain about my 750W PSU but will I run into any issues with power and the FTW3? This is all in Canadian dollars btw. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $419.99) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (Purchased For $68.99) Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $164.99) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (Purchased For $187.49) Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $395.58) Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card (Purchased For $1109.00) Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $169.99) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $154.99) Wireless Network Adapter: MSI AX905C PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wi-Fi Adapter (Purchased For $56.99) Monitor: LG 27GL83A-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor (TBD) Total: $2728.01 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-23 17:56 EST-0500
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EVGA says 750W or greater in the specs for that card, and you have a good gold 750W PSU with a 88W PPT CPU. You should be fine. e: While it seems that 650W is generally enough for regular 3080 builds, given the occasional report of power spikes it is reasonable to look to a 750W for a new build. Worth trying an existing 650W for upgrades to existing builds, though. FreeKillB fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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5600x for near msrp in SAmart if anyone wants to jump. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3952000&perpage=40&noseen=1
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:I would not try to shove 400GB plus games and new data onto a 500GB drive. Many AAA games are 100GB+ now. Unless you really need to crunch your budget, or you can bring an SSD from your old build on top of the NVME, you should keep the 1tb. I have a 500gb and it sucks, even though I have like 25TB of spinning HDD storage. Thanks, that really helped clarify things in my mind. I'd carry over an SSD from my old build, but that rig just barely predates SSDs being a thing (at least for mid-range builds). Always tell myself I'll upgrade these things in a couple years and never do, so maybe I'm just kidding myself about upgrading the GPU (and thus needing more wattage from my PSU, but point well taken)
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:750w is the minimum quoted spec for a 3080, 850w is quoted for the higher power cards (FTW3, etc). 800w is likely not overkill if you plan any OC or wanna throw a bunch of HDDs in there. I'm looking around these brands and I see a number of stuff being pricing $150+ 
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Man I thought it would take so long to get a 3070 that I was super slow ordering the other stuff I needed and now here I am with my 3070 and the bundled no name RAM+vga to hdmi dongle??? and nothing else...
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CheeseSpawn posted:I'm looking around these brands and I see a number of stuff being pricing $150+ Yeah PSUs are hosed right now. Mostly cause the GPU hotness. Seasonic 750w Gold full modular @ $119.99 Deals exist. This is a decent PSU. I have this PSU @ 850w. Superflower Ledex III 850w @ $124.99 If you set alerts for r/buildapcsales for PSUs you’ll get something.
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I was confused why PSUs got so loving expensive since the last time I built a pc and realized it was cause everyone buys modular these days and they're like straight up twice the price of a comparable non modular unit. I am good with splitting the difference and going semi modular I guess
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I'm currently running a i5-9600k; would upgrading to a 9900k be a significant increase? And compared to a LGA 1200 board? I wouldn't mind getting a couple more years out of this Asrock Z390 Pro4 but if the 1200 jump is significant enough, I might cash out this year. Most things I don't have an issue but this one struggles to stream a (badly optimized) game on Discord and record a replay buffer in OBS at the same time. Maybe that's too much for any cpu, I don't know.
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This might not be great advice but the 9900k is basically a 10700k but it'll work on z390. A lot of the time jumping to a higher chip of the same generation probably wouldn't be worth it but the main thing the 9k series chips lacked was hyperthreading, except for the 9900k, so in this one case it might be worth it
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PSU question: I have a 750W gold rated PSU and the support material was emphatic about only using cables that were included. I just bought a 3070 and I think it will require one more PCIE cable that I don't have. How stringent is the cabling? I can just buy an additional one, right?!
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Inzombiac posted:PSU question: No. If the PSU only has one PCIe power cable, you can't just add another one. Most 750w PSUs should have two 6+2 pin PCIe cables though? If it only has one, you're hosed because you can't add another cable, the pinouts would be wrong, and the added cable probably wouldn't deliver enough power anyways and would catch your PC on fire/destroy your equipment.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I'm currently running a i5-9600k; would upgrading to a 9900k be a significant increase? And compared to a LGA 1200 board? I wouldn't mind getting a couple more years out of this Asrock Z390 Pro4 but if the 1200 jump is significant enough, I might cash out this year. Generally this isn’t worth it. You’ll get an increase, but frankly if it were me I’d probably run a hard OC on the chip and hope for the best, and save up in prep for next gen (or just go full rebuilt now on Zen 3). Inzombiac posted:PSU question: Do not use cables that are not designed for your specific model of PSU, even from the same brand. You will kill everything. Seriously. Do you have an extra GPU power slot on the PSU, but lost the extra cable or it didn’t come with it? If that’s the case, depending on the manufacturer you should be able to order one direct. If that’s not an option, you can buy one made for your specific model of PSU from a custom cabling company. Those are usually purchased for ascetic, but it may be your only option.
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Vagabong posted:What's the best way to browse for 3000 series GPU stock as a brit? I'm in a couple of alert discords, is there anything else I should be doing? Your best bet is probably to set up your own tracker for the retailer(s) you know that are reputable with something like distill.io
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Do not use cables that are not designed for your specific model of PSU, even from the same brand. You will kill everything. Seriously. The PSU has 4 total PCIE 8 pin slots. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083RR7GBT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I royally hosed up and accidentally comingled cables from the old build in to this one. I have one right now in the PSU powering my 970 and two more that look identical. The only discernable marker is that the two not being used have a "CG03" marker on the PSU end. The other one does not have this marker. I have to assume these are the ones that came with the PSU then. Is there any way to know for sure? I can't find any identifiable markers on the company website or even on consumer photos from Amazon. edit: I double-checked and the 3070 only needs one 8 pin cable but... I have no clue which one is correct and GAMEMAX doesn't let you order more direct. Inzombiac fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Inzombiac posted:The PSU has 4 total PCIE 8 pin slots. Good luck, if you can't guarantee that your cables are the correct cables for your PSU, don't use them. Using cables of the wrong gauge or pinout can damage your equipment, or start an electrical fire potentially because the cable will get hot and literally start a fire. Not even kidding I've literally never heard of Gamemax and I can't find a loving third party review of their PSU's anywhere. I wouldn't trust your RTX 3070 to it, or your PC. I'd honestly recommend replacing it regardless of how old it is with something both A) Less RGB-y because you're not paying for quality with any PSU that has RGB. and B) Not being sure of which cables belong to the PSU and which are old cables is a very dangerous situation, a wrong decision will destroy whatever you plug that cable into. E: The only Gamemax reference I can find is on LTT's PSU Tier List, and it ain't good, for the GAMEMAX GM series, which is the non-RGB ones. "Tier D • Recommended only for very cheap, iGPU systems" https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/ This dude (LukeSavenije) has been curating a PSU tier list for drat near a decade, here's his spreadsheet and test methodology. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eL0893Ramlwk6E3s3uSvH1_juom7SMG5SCNzP2Uov8w/edit#gid=1719706335 E: Found a review of your specific PSU https://linustechtips.com/profile/477939-lienuslatetips/?status=268573&type=status orange juche fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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poo poo, okay. I'd much rather spend to replace this PSU than potentially fry a hard to get GPU. Where is that list of good PSU again? edit: Ah, thanks!
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orange juche posted:Good luck, if you can't guarantee that your cables are the correct cables for your PSU, don't use them. Using cables of the wrong gauge or pinout can damage your equipment, or start an electrical fire potentially because the cable will get hot and literally start a fire. This. Seriously. The PSU is the one part you do not gently caress around with. If it dies or hiccups wrong it can take your whole system with it and you’re hosed. The fact that I can’t find ANY independent reviews outside of sketch rear end YouTube channels is bad. That fact that they don’t seem to be sold anywhere other that Amazon is really bad. Lol here’s one legit smoking and dying. https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/my-psu-blew-up-please-help.3469509/
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Inzombiac posted:poo poo, okay. I'd much rather spend to replace this PSU than potentially fry a hard to get GPU. Check the two I posted above for someone else. The sea sonic 750w is probably what you want.
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Inzombiac posted:poo poo, okay. I'd much rather spend to replace this PSU than potentially fry a hard to get GPU. "Overall, I CANNOT recommend this PSU. It's a group regulated unit marketed as a DC-DC unit, with what seems to be a fake 80+ certification. In addition, I was told by a friend that he saw this power supply advertised on an Amazon shill site, which means it's likely a lot of the Amazon reviews are false. Gamemax and Sohoo needs to STOP with the shady tactics and make a good PSU for once. Please, just buy something else." Throw that thing in the trash before it kills your PC. E: Why in the flying gently caress did it come with 4 PCIe power ports on the PSU, and only 2 cables? Jeez what kind of poo poo is that? The power supply comes with the following connectors: 1x 24pin (20+4) ATX 2x 8pin (4+4) EPS 8x SATA 3x MOLEX, 1x FDD 2x 8pin (6+2) PCIe 
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orange juche posted:
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Seems on brand lol. Yeah the review didn't even get as far as checking for actual power quality/ripple etc, it stopped at "holy poo poo this thing is a fake"
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Thanks for all the hot tips, everyone. I'm gonna shut this thing down and wait the two weeks for the new PSU to show up. It'll suck having the 3070 ready and waiting in a couple days but I'd much rather play it safe.
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Inzombiac posted:Thanks for all the hot tips, everyone. I'm gonna shut this thing down and wait the two weeks for the new PSU to show up. Yeah, sorry you have a bum PSU, there's shady folks out there who will absolutely sell garbage with an 80+ certification out there, 80+ certs are just efficiency ratings, and not indicative of any sort of internal quality. Generally ones with higher efficiency have higher part quality, but scumfucks will just lie about it and sell some garbage and then rebrand when they get too notorious. Just lucky you brought it up now, vs in 6 months when there's smoke coming out of your power supply.
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orange juche posted:Yeah, sorry you have a bum PSU, there's shady folks out there who will absolutely sell garbage with an 80+ certification out there, 80+ certs are just efficiency ratings, and not indicative of any sort of internal quality. Generally ones with higher efficiency have higher part quality, but scumfucks will just lie about it and sell some garbage and then rebrand when they get too notorious. Man, I'm really kicking myself for being out of the game so long that I didn't do my due-diligence. Thankfully Amazon is accepting the return.
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vanilla slimfast posted:Your best bet is probably to set up your own tracker for the retailer(s) you know that are reputable with something like distill.io Thanks mate, I'd been looking for days and managed to bag one just today.
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The "good" PSU manufacturers now make poo poo, I apologize if people are tired of seeing my avatar repeat this but PC building has gotten kind of... consumer hostile again in some ways. It's a double edged sword because a $20 case has tool-less features and no sharp parts these days which is a huge improvement but the components are hitting power and thermal limits we didnt have during the "extremely cheap cables explosion" of the mid 2000s & even your lovely power cable that appeared thick but was 99% cheap shielding was fine before is absolutely maxing its throughput
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Wowporn posted:I was confused why PSUs got so loving expensive since the last time I built a pc and realized it was cause everyone buys modular these days and they're like straight up twice the price of a comparable non modular unit. I am good with splitting the difference and going semi modular I guess But half the fun is finding somewhere crafty to shove all the cables you're not using in your non-modular PSU so the case looks all nice and clean!
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Vagabong posted:Thanks mate, I'd been looking for days and managed to bag one just today. 
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I actually came into this thread to gripe about PSU and it turns that's been the most recent topic. I can't find a decent 1000w PSU on Newegg or Amazon, so anyone got any recommendations? Everything is kind of marked up by marketplace sellers, so I might just go with one of those so it's here in time for everything else. I kind of want to go with a titanium or platinum related PSU and one with a warranty, so i'm thinking of going with Seasonic. I hear nothing but good things about Corsair too. Problem is finding one. Any other sites I could check? I've been checking out the manufacturer sites as well and most of them just redirect to Newegg. 1000w might seem like overkill but I am running a 3090 and want to make sure I don't have issues. I'll also be watercooling it and running a bunch of fans. And who knows, maybe I upgrade in 2022 and want to keep the same PSU, but by then the 750w recommendation is now a 800w recommendation.
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PSUs used to be frequently awful until about 2006 when sites like Jonnyguru started coming down hard on companies in reviews. Suddenly every PSU company was stumbling over themselves trying to put out better and better units, first moving away from group regulation and Chinese caps, then to DC conversion designs. After EVGA came out with their Superflower-built platforms and flooded JG they decided to scale back seeing as how most PSUs had drastically improved from previous years and all of the new ones were roughly the same quality. Noting this, PSU companies that had been producing good models realized they could cheap out again (but without needing to drop pricing) and here we are today.
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ShowTime posted:I actually came into this thread to gripe about PSU and it turns that's been the most recent topic. I can't find a decent 1000w PSU on Newegg or Amazon, so anyone got any recommendations? Everything is kind of marked up by marketplace sellers, so I might just go with one of those so it's here in time for everything else. I kind of want to go with a titanium or platinum related PSU and one with a warranty, so i'm thinking of going with Seasonic. I hear nothing but good things about Corsair too. Problem is finding one. This doesn't quite appear to be released, but my hunch is it'll be around the best unit at $200 you can find https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-platinum-se-sf-1000f14mp-v2-1000w/p/1HU-024C-00020?&quicklink=true
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bus hustler posted:This doesn't quite appear to be released, but my hunch is it'll be around the best unit at $200 you can find I think it’s preorder cause that’s when they’ll get stock, and it’s a discount price. It’s been released before. It’ll ship on January 5th. I’d probably jump on that if I was looking for a 1000w psu.
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