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Garrand posted:GBorBB talk about a ridiculous Christmas movie i love bad movies but i found this very frustrating to watch lol. from the start, the part where they assume the composer is a chippendale because they googled his name and it was the first result was really weird. i dont know enough about the channel to know if that was a sincere suggestion or not.
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Dec 24, 2020 09:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVX4bCelIqg Writing on Games did a video on Cyberpunk, which actually makes it look pretty compelling, at least for this sidequest. I'll definitely pick it up on sale once they've fixed all the bugs.
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Dec 24, 2020 11:25
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Quinn Curio managed to sneak her video in, watch it while you can! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzBoQROSnaM&t=2479s
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Dec 24, 2020 11:39
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SimonChris posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVX4bCelIqg The game's got very strong writing and it wouldn't surprise me if it ends up with a cult following like all buggy-but-well-written games have gotten over the years.
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Dec 24, 2020 11:42
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Archer666 posted:The game's got very strong writing and it wouldn't surprise me if it ends up with a cult following like all buggy-but-well-written games have gotten over the years. I mean, people are pretty into The Witcher 3.
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Dec 24, 2020 12:17
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Nuns with Guns posted:Going back to the last page's discussion: Bethesda is the great evil of our time, but on the other hand, if we didn't have Oblivion we wouldn't have Demon's Souls and then Dark Souls and then Bloodborne. So maybe great evils... are good? What's the connection? Wasn't Demon's Souls a sort of spiritual successor to the king's field style of games given the many references to them? EDIT: I finally listened to the bethesda guy talk about writing and this video is driving me nuts. It genuinely kind of annoys me the way he like, seems to have active disdain for players like a lovely DM does? I could very easily read too much into it but the way he says "they just want to throw their paper airplanes" and it's like, dude. People would want to engage with your story if your story captured them in any way. But it doesn't, because the story in these games is just so much rear end that tooling around pointlessly is more fun and more interesting. Like the one anecdote he has about the brotherhood of steel questline where he just outright says "you're wrong, and we know you're wrong" in reference to players thinking another, scrapped, idea would have been more fun just really sucks and this guy's entire attitude explains so much about why fallout 3 and 4 are bad if he's the one with a lot of influence over what goes into the game. Nuebot fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 12:50
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Archer666 posted:The game's got very strong writing and it wouldn't surprise me if it ends up with a cult following like all buggy-but-well-written games have gotten over the years. It has sold like 13 million copies, it doesn't need a "cult following"
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Dec 24, 2020 13:04
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Andrast posted:It has sold like 13 million copies, it doesn't need a "cult following" It'll join other famed cult classics like Call of Duty and the movie Titanic.
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Dec 24, 2020 13:17
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Nuebot posted:What's the connection? Wasn't Demon's Souls a sort of spiritual successor to the king's field style of games given the many references to them? It is, but it only came about to begin with because Sony wanted some of that Oblivion action. Miyazaki talked about it for a bit in an interview he did with 4Gamer about Bloodborne, translated here: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/bloodborne-4gamer-interview-with-hidetaka-miyazaki-fully-translated.840059/ quote:Miyazaki: But with Armored Core for Answer, we were working on that in parallel with Demon’s Souls, so there were quite a few challenges. When Demon’s Souls was in the initial planning stages, and right around the time it was entering the prototype phase, I came on as the director, and at the time, it was a completely different and very difficult project compared to what it ended up becoming.
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Dec 24, 2020 13:39
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BrendianaJones posted:Criminally Listed is actually one of the few true crime channels I enjoy. His voice is an aquired taste but it's well researched and doesn't just cover the same cases as everyone else all the time AKAIK. He does definitely hit up cases that aren't well known which is why I think I clicked on him to begin with. But his way of speaking makes it really hard to listen to not in an annoying way but the trailing off/stretching out the last syllables makes it somewhat hard to follow if I'm listening to it while doing something else. There's no natural flow.
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Dec 24, 2020 15:05
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Nuebot posted:What's the connection? Wasn't Demon's Souls a sort of spiritual successor to the king's field style of games given the many references to them? Like Shinji2015 said, Sony was looking for a western-style open world RPG to rival Oblivion, because Oblivion was going to be Xbox 360-exclusive on the consoles for a year and that was no good. So they tapped this little studio called FromSoftware to make a Sony-exclusive game for them. And it makes some sense when you look at the King's Field games, which as you mentioned, do still influence the Souls games a ton and were kind of primitive but still compelling first person style RPGs that aren't that far off from the style and gameplay of the older TES games. Anyway, the game development was a nightmare and apparently pretty much everyone in FromSoft and Sony had given up on it when Hidetaka Miyazaki successfully lobbied to take over direction on the game and re-shaped it into what we got, partially skating by on not being noticed and also just lying and not telling a lot of Sony people how hard it'd be or ignoring some mandates that were originally in place to make it more like Oblivion. Except a lot of initial players and reviewers and Sony executives disliked the difficulty and opaque story, so Sony opted not to publish the game outside of Japan. However, there was an English text version made for Asian markets, and all the voice acting was done in English by default since they were designing it in a more western medieval style. So some people were able to import that version and built a cult hype around the game in the West, which led to Atlus publishing the game in North America, and Namco Bandai publishing it in the PAL territories to respectable success. And Namco Bandai saw the potential there, so they agreed to publish another game in that vein that wasn't a Sony-exclusive: Dark Souls. The game exploded and Sony poo poo themselves for passing on that, and went back to FromSoft to commission another Sony exclusive game in the same style: Bloodborne. And this is why we can indirectly thank Todd Howard for something good happening for once. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 16:48
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Nuebot posted:What's the connection? Wasn't Demon's Souls a sort of spiritual successor to the king's field style of games given the many references to them? Yeah this is what really gets at me, he references past examples of players not being interested in engaging with his stories and just immediately jumps to the conclusion of "players don't want engaging story, they want a sandbox to gently caress around in" which just completely ignores the litany of games in which players rave about the writing - including games Bethesda has made - so that he doesn't have to confront the fact that maybe he's just a poo poo writer. "Nobody likes my stories, so people must just not like stories period." - Lead Writer for Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Skyrim, and lead designer of Fallout 76 Emil Pagliarulo 
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Dec 24, 2020 18:22
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BrendianaJones posted:Criminally Listed is actually one of the few true crime channels I enjoy. His voice is an aquired taste but it's well researched and doesn't just cover the same cases as everyone else all the time AKAIK. yeah, i started watching thanks to this thread. its not bad but his voice is super acquired taste. he sounds like he reads everything pheonically/robot like.
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Dec 24, 2020 19:34
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Nuns with Guns posted:And this is why we can indirectly thank Todd Howard for something good happening for once. I'm good
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Dec 24, 2020 19:43
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Sydin posted:Yeah this is what really gets at me, he references past examples of players not being interested in engaging with his stories and just immediately jumps to the conclusion of "players don't want engaging story, they want a sandbox to gently caress around in" which just completely ignores the litany of games in which players rave about the writing - including games Bethesda has made - so that he doesn't have to confront the fact that maybe he's just a poo poo writer. The bit early on where he talks about how Casablanca seems like a love story on its face but it's actually about sacrifice, how the Incredibles is about superheroes on its face but it's really about family, then he gets to Skyrim being superficially about dragons but really it's, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh... 
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Dec 24, 2020 19:45
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*Checks the (urban) dictonary for what Cult Following means* ... ANYWAY Here's Big Daddy Top Hat looking at Legends of Wrestling, a wrestling game that Acclaim (WWF Warzone, WWF Attitude) tried to use to get back into the good graces of wrestling fans). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVMN4-D3E2U
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Dec 24, 2020 20:19
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Dabir posted:The bit early on where he talks about how Casablanca seems like a love story on its face but it's actually about sacrifice, how the Incredibles is about superheroes on its face but it's really about family, then he gets to Skyrim being superficially about dragons but really it's, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Yeah it's unintentional gold.
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Dec 24, 2020 20:47
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a present from Dan: a video about what people think make movies qualify as Christmas movies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5ZlOAvzAo
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Dec 24, 2020 22:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N274EurzpAA Here's a two hour vid on Jodi Arias
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Dec 24, 2020 22:30
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The last podcast episode was great. Shes insane
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Dec 24, 2020 23:08
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Gnome de plume posted:a present from Dan: a video about what people think make movies qualify as Christmas movies  Not the best, though, that's Muppet Christmas Carol. It looks like it's a two-parter with Movies with Mikey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68JSod6pIRM Edit: oh hey, it's actually about a system for determining the Christmasness of movies! I'll have to rewatch ITSV to check its score. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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Dec 25, 2020 00:19
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SimonChris posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVX4bCelIqg By the time we get, I don't know, CP 2077 Chrome and Steel Edition with all the DLC and it being fixed it will be game of the year, not unlike Witcher 3 was.
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Dec 25, 2020 00:29
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Patrick Willem's new video about the Greatest Showman. And if you hate his regular skits boy are you going to hate this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta4OlRzItbM fun hater posted:i love bad movies but i found this very frustrating to watch lol. from the start, the part where they assume the composer is a chippendale because they googled his name and it was the first result was really weird. i dont know enough about the channel to know if that was a sincere suggestion or not. Eh, it's more of just kind of a throwaway thing. If you notice they never bring it back up again, more of a 'wouldn't it be funny' kinda thing. Garrand fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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Dec 25, 2020 00:31
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Dabir posted:The bit early on where he talks about how Casablanca seems like a love story on its face but it's actually about sacrifice, how the Incredibles is about superheroes on its face but it's really about family, then he gets to Skyrim being superficially about dragons but really it's, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh... And then he hits fallout 4 and keeps bumbling back to "So it's about androids." "It's about robots that look like people." Also, the part where he says they went back to look at games well known for their dialogue and specifically cites Mass Effect and Telletale games but like, they don't seem to have looked at games absolutely beloved for their dialogue or are famous specifically for their dialogue like, I don't know, New Vegas or even older RPGs like maybe fallout and fallout two which, while certainly clunky, people tend to talk about how they liked those conversations and dialogues.
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Dec 25, 2020 01:09
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Curious to know how many youtubers live off YouTube and aren’t just pumping out easy content like Twitch clips or unedited Let’s Plays. Like, Jim Sterling pumps out a video each week of scripted content, and they still can’t live without Patreon due to the broken copyright claim system.
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Dec 25, 2020 01:37
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Pants Donkey posted:Curious to know how many youtubers live off YouTube and aren’t just pumping out easy content like Twitch clips or unedited Let’s Plays. Of the ones I follow Drew Gooden (2.7m subscribers) and Danny Gonzalez (4.2m subscribers) both do Youtube as their fulltime jobs and neither have Patreons. They do supplement with merch stores and ad deals but that's it. Danny does well enough that he was able to do a video where he was going to spend $20k on ads (he ended up not paying that much.)
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Dec 25, 2020 02:25
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Thing is most things do kinda go back to the YouTube channel anyway, I wouldn't have any Patrons if it wasn't for YouTube. I live perfectly fine without a "day job" but it's a combination of several things -- YouTube revenue, Twitch revenue, Twitch stream sponsorship thanks to the awesome Antstream, other work I do for creators, Patreon. You can do this full time without having a million subs or anything like that, it's just a question of diversifying a bit (which you should really try to do anyway, I think it's a bit risky to rely entirely on YT ad revenue alone. Of all my revenue streams, it's absolutely the most volatile). I could do more if I chose to.
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Dec 25, 2020 03:41
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I think hour for hour. The effort put in counted against money earned then youtube is often on the low end. Especially since the youtube algorithm actively punishes you if you put too much effort into your video. Youtube wants high quality 5 minute videos. On the other hand I stopped being a Patreon for some leftist Youtubers that I liked because they moved away from monthly well produced and sourced political youtube content to 98% twitch streaming which is something I don't watch.
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Dec 25, 2020 06:58
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Sorry this is off topic but I do want to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas 
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Dec 25, 2020 08:03
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Jamie Faith posted:Sorry this is off topic but I do want to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas This is extremely on topic. Merry Xmas and happy holidays everybody.
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Dec 25, 2020 08:13
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Eww, Christmas is just Christian-Judeo Western propaganda to push consumerism and "traditional" values on people. anyway merry xmas to y'all too
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Dec 25, 2020 08:20
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Jamie Faith posted:Sorry this is off topic but I do want to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas Happy Holidays, thread.
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Dec 25, 2020 09:56
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Merry Christmas, thread. And let’s not forget the true spirit of the holidays: staring in bafflement at terrible cartoons, when you’re not switching your brain off to enjoy some cheesy made-for-tv movies.
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Dec 25, 2020 10:10
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Sydin posted:Yeah this is what really gets at me, he references past examples of players not being interested in engaging with his stories and just immediately jumps to the conclusion of "players don't want engaging story, they want a sandbox to gently caress around in" which just completely ignores the litany of games in which players rave about the writing - including games Bethesda has made - so that he doesn't have to confront the fact that maybe he's just a poo poo writer. People give Todd poo poo but Emil really seems to be the one driving the worst problems. Todd's a bald faced liar of a carnival hype man but I'm not clear on what he does where you can clearly see the huge problems Emil causes.
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Dec 25, 2020 11:16
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Jamie Faith posted:Sorry this is off topic but I do want to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas Merry Christmas!
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Dec 25, 2020 11:45
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Jamie Faith posted:Sorry this is off topic but I do want to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas Merry Christmas
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Dec 25, 2020 14:36
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Merry Christmas. And to all, a good night!
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Dec 25, 2020 15:00
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BrendianaJones posted:Criminally Listed is actually one of the few true crime channels I enjoy. His voice is an aquired taste but it's well researched and doesn't just cover the same cases as everyone else all the time AKAIK. Sarcopenia fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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Dec 25, 2020 15:29
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Happy holidays, thread. What would I do without you? Be radicalized by the algorithm, I suppose.
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Dec 25, 2020 15:52
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Jamie Faith posted:Sorry this is off topic but I do want to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas Well that's no reason to apologize. That's downright wholesome. Merry Christmas ya'll. And Happy Holidays if Christmas is bullshit and you won't have it in your house.
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Dec 25, 2020 16:40
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