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punk rebel ecks posted:What about Fury vs Wilder 3? The rematch clause was allowed to expire, so I doubt fury’s gonna waste his time going back to that well. Wilder is currently suing to get the fight though.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Top 5 fights possible for 2021: What about a fight between (any 2 of) Teofimo Lopez, Tank Davis, Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia Edit: Stolen from Twitter, and not a top fight by most definitions other than violence per second but I would love to see Edgar Berlanga vs David Lemieux at some point The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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does anyone think that usyk is going to have any serious success at heavyweight? his fight with chisora was.... troubling. i could see him mayyyyybe having the boxing chops to outpoint joshua if he survives the first half, but wilder would probably find a punch in 12 rounds and fury would maul him. would love to see usyk / fury though.
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i feel like usyk is gonna struggle a bit at heavy in terms of power but just based on his skill and footwork he can probably win a few decisions. he’s probably not winning a title unless it’s vacated i think he’d be best served going back down to cruiser unless he’s having a hard time making weight
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Marching Powder posted:does anyone think that usyk is going to have any serious success at heavyweight? his fight with chisora was.... troubling. i could see him mayyyyybe having the boxing chops to outpoint joshua if he survives the first half, but wilder would probably find a punch in 12 rounds and fury would maul him. I don't really believe it either, but the best thing you can say here is that lots of good heavyweights have had struggles against Chisora. I agree with you especially about Fury, who just has too much in every department. Still, the money of heavyweight talks, so he's got to stay there. The SituAsian posted:What about a fight between (any 2 of) Teofimo Lopez, Tank Davis, Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia Hard yes to both of these.
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Marching Powder posted:does anyone think that usyk is going to have any serious success at heavyweight? his fight with chisora was.... troubling. Agreed, and I don't think he has any chance at making any real noise at the weight. He has no power at all at heavyweight, and he actually has looked slower and less effective as well. He's also pretty tiny compared to the elite of the division. Maybe he could win the WBA "regular" title, as I think he could probably beat Manuel Charr or Trevor Bryan or Robert Helenius or whoever has that belt at the moment (it's hard to keep track, and who really cares?).There's a chance he could beat Deontay Wilder by decision, but somehow I doubt it, and he definitely doesn't beat either Joshua or Fury.
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I think, for a guy who isn't really a good "boxer", it's extremely hard to outbox Wilder. He's just got crazy range and a very fast right hand. You can't really just stick and move when you have to cover that distance. Fury did it once, as a taller man, and he still took two knockdowns for the trouble. Nobody else in the division is going to have that size on Wilder, and very few have that boxing ability either.
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I just realized wilder is 35, is there any perception that he's very much on the clock to make or break his career in the next year or two?
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Jack B Nimble posted:I just realized wilder is 35, is there any perception that he's very much on the clock to make or break his career in the next year or two? i mean he was a world title holder for the past 5 years and a top 3 heavyweight for the decade, he’s 42-1-1, he has a bronze medal his career is pretty much Made, i don’t really know that he has anything he needs to do to check a box on a list of accomplishments; he might want to beat joshua and fury just to put himself in the conversation as the best, but i don’t think he needs to fight a single other round for him to have had a career in the 99th percentile
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That's fair, I guess I was kind of hoping he'd "grow" into a more technical fighter, and now I see I was really clueless as to how far along his career was.
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Jack B Nimble posted:That's fair, I guess I was kind of hoping he'd "grow" into a more technical fighter, and now I see I was really clueless as to how far along his career was. I do not blame his trainer for leaving good enough alone. You'd have to deprogram a lot of whatever the secret sauce is to build in fundamentals.
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For some reason I thought he came into boxing later in life and was unpolished but now I'm reading he started at 20, won the golden gloves, went to the Olympics, etc. I sort of had this apparently unfounded assumption that he/his trainer(s) never had or took the time to become, if not a textbook fighter, then a sophisticated one; like how foreman isn't conventional but he's nonetheless highly developed and purposeful. But, once again, IDKSAB.
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1341760069462085638?s=19 Martin Murray announced his retirement. He has to have (or be close to) having the most world title shots without winning one though he suffered a few bad decisions, namely against Sergio Martinez and Felix Sturm Edit: The Freak show fights, will they ever stop? https://twitter.com/ChaelSonnen/status/1341475976056721408?s=19 Chael is referring to the idea that if Jake Paul he wins then he would box Conor McGregor flunky (non Artem Lobov) Dillon Danis The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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is anyone going to pay money to watch ben askren box. im sure jake paul has a dedicated buying fanbase but good lord
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Jack B Nimble posted:That's fair, I guess I was kind of hoping he'd "grow" into a more technical fighter, and now I see I was really clueless as to how far along his career was. Wilder is sort of infamous as the fighter who is currently amongst the greatest of the era but is hardly recognized for it. He didn't really get mainstream recognition (e.g. people outside of boxing) until his last fight with Fury. A major reason why he flipped out during his "TIL THIS DAY!" interaction was because despite all of his accomplishments nobody but boxing fans know his name. That if he was white he'd be a household name.
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is it smarter to make 100x more money fighting Floyd Mayweather in a spectacle fight where you're likely getting knocked the gently caress out in a late and exciting fashion, or make comparative table scraps to take absolutely no damage from Ben Askren's 'boxing'. dang it's heckin close, I think
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poo poo I'd box people who don't know how to box for $100/round happily. And then I'd grapple people who don't know how to grapple.
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Aye Doc posted:is anyone going to pay money to watch ben askren box. im sure jake paul has a dedicated buying fanbase but good lord as a Mizzou alum I think I'm legally required to buy this PPV
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punk rebel ecks posted:Wilder is sort of infamous as the fighter who is currently amongst the greatest of the era but is hardly recognized for it. He didn't really get mainstream recognition (e.g. people outside of boxing) until his last fight with Fury. i mean he was the first american heavyweight champion since lamon brewster won a fluke over a klitschko; the fact that there was and is almost zero fanfare around him in this country is weird (although probably reflective of a deeper lack of interest in combat sports as anything but spectacle here)
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Ben Askren in a boxing match is one of the most hilarious things I could ever imagine.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Ben Askren in a boxing match is one of the most hilarious things I could ever imagine. I wonder if it's gonna look any worse than Jake Shields doing kickboxing on Bully Beatdown
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I can't see Fury vs Joshua happening in any situation where Covid is preventing a sell-out at Wembley. I don't think it's especially competitive either so I'm not pining for it.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I can't see Fury vs Joshua happening in any situation where Covid is preventing a sell-out at Wembley. What??? Fury Joshua is one of the best possible matchups they could possibly make at heavyweight. Who would you rather the two guys face than each other?
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Jake Paul opened up -180 to Askren's +150. if I had anything to bet, it would all go on Jake Paul
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I know it’s illegal but it would be hilarious if jake Paul came out with a flying knee
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Fury-Joshua as the biggest heavyweight matchup for 2021 goes without saying. But I'd love to see Wilder back in against a legit contender. Wilder-Usyk or Wilder-Ruiz would get my attention.
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I asked it before but it got lost in the middle of some TVIV boxing posts. What are some good lesser known boxing documentaries? I've seen a lot of the legendary nights and most of the obvious ones. TIA
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Seen unforgivable blackness, 2004 film based on the book by the same name? I read the book but if the film is in any way a worthy adaptation I'd call it must see.
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Mr. F! posted:The rematch clause was allowed to expire, so I doubt fury’s gonna waste his time going back to that well. Summary of Wilder's case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDrWLxj_fHM
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Aye Doc posted:Jake Paul opened up -180 to Askren's +150. if I had anything to bet, it would all go on Jake Paul Paul might actually win this one. This is pretty much the one pro mma fighter I think he could outbox.
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The SituAsian posted:https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1342234342165078017 Lmao what
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Declan MacManus posted:i mean he was the first american heavyweight champion since lamon brewster won a fluke over a klitschko; the fact that there was and is almost zero fanfare around him in this country is weird (although probably reflective of a deeper lack of interest in combat sports as anything but spectacle here) I realize that this is very  but I do wonder how much of him being overlooked is racism and how much of it is combat sports riding and dying by strong eccentric personalities.It is sad that if Wilder would have won the fight against Fury, he would have catapulted into mainstream discourse.
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DAZN takes the new Covid bill seriously.
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anyone willing to take a 6er today to spread an important message?
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Mekchu posted:anyone willing to take a 6er today to spread an important message? UP YOURS MOD (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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punk rebel ecks posted:I realize that this is very Don't really see how racism has anything to do with it considering black Americans like Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, etc became huge crossover/mainstream stars. Boxing is just a much more niche sport than it was in the 20th century, the entertainment/media landscape is far more fragmented now anyway, and Wilder doesn't really have a compelling enough personality/charisma to elevate himself as a mainstream celebrity without the dominant resume, which he doesn't have due to losing to Fury. He was also brought along far too slowly, against mostly bums, in fights almost nobody saw, until very recently. I mean, Wilder wasn't even on the mainstream sport radar whatsoever until like 2018.
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Mekchu posted:anyone willing to take a 6er today to spread an important message? i volunteer as tribute (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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