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also while wikileaks and greenwald have very different approaches to publishing material, greenwald has been one of the loudest and most high profile voices calling attention to the total shitshow miscarriage of an extradition happening to assange in the UK. the ignorance on the precedent being set and just how bad that trial is, is really astounding
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Taintrunner posted:I’ve been a communist for long before Bernie, lmao. I know your hate is pure and I'm glad to hear it
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if your fear is that the left is powerless or whatever, then you by admission are on the side of Jimmy Dore and his burn it all down strategy of using what power we do have via the progressives in office forcing the people in power on all sides to justify denying people healthcare in the midst of a pandemic by any means necessary and using it as a rallying cry to unite people against the government, whilst exposing the cowards and careerists whose only solution is to roll around in the poo poo and do nothing as the nation races towards violent collapse. make it a massive public spectacle and galvanize support for what you believe in. throw bombs and run taints, because delegitimizing the current government is a valid action of any leftist which they should have been already doing
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At this point I want to start a party called the Spoiler Party explicitly to ratfuck Democratic politicians. Unfortunately I don't think such a thing could even make a ripple.
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Dmitri-9 posted:At this point I want to start a party called the Spoiler Party explicitly to ratfuck Democratic politicians. Unfortunately I don't think such a thing could even make a ripple. that's how the Dems have captured the left, they're the party that ratfucks themselves
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we have invented the spherical firing squad and can now cancel each other in three dimensions - dnc 2021
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Protagorean posted:that's how the Dems have captured the left, they're the party that ratfucks themselves Yeah but it will be less fun for them if they don't have any hope of getting the seat.
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T-man posted:we have invented the spherical firing squad and can now cancel each other in three dimensions - dnc 2021 an improvement imo as it posits the existence of an imaginary plane
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you scrubs cancelling people in a 3d sphere as I construct an n-dimensional posting hypercube
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Pirate Jet posted:this is correct. “vote blue no matter who” won big in 2020. third party votes cratered despite record turnout. any possible leverage or representation or demands or anything the left could possibly desire are null and void because they all demonstrated they’d be willing to vote for whoever the democrats put up even if they’re a senile rapist white supremacist The whole point of the vote or agitating for it is to that it's not dead now that the White House is Cheeto free. That they're are demands that are greater than get rid of Trump. Thinking they're more useful as celebrities, than the actual elected officials that they are is a loving waste. If all they are are celebrities now than they're loving useless, it's pure lib brain to think celebrities will be useful for gently caress all anything
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Pirate Jet posted:this is correct. “vote blue no matter who” won big in 2020. It literally did not, the Republicans are on track to be the only major political party in America after 2024, lmao.
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Taintrunner posted:It literally did not, the Republicans are on track to be the only major political party in America after 2024, lmao. It worked for Biden, and that's it was ever meant to work for and all the Dems really cared about. The White House without any of the demands of actually governing outside of making live worse everyone on earth that isn't rich
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wasnt jimmy dore a huge tulsi gabbard guy lmao
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Taintrunner posted:if your fear is that the left is powerless or whatever, then you by admission are on the side of Jimmy Dore and his burn it all down strategy of using what power we do have via the progressives in office forcing the people in power on all sides to justify denying people healthcare in the midst of a pandemic by any means necessary and using it as a rallying cry to unite people against the government, whilst exposing the cowards and careerists whose only solution is to roll around in the poo poo and do nothing as the nation races towards violent collapse. make it a massive public spectacle and galvanize support for what you believe in. how do you live with being such an adventurist dumbass lmfao
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Taintrunner posted:It literally did not, the Republicans are on track to be the only major political party in America after 2024, lmao. within the context of “left to liberals” and the bernie sanders insurgency, we got loving ethered and there’s no getting around that
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Trash Ops posted:how do you live with being such an adventurist dumbass lmfao the money probably helps. speaking of which, give me some taintrunner
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i dont fear that the left is powerless. i know it is. nobody would use such mushmouth term like 'the left' otherwise.
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THS posted:so what. what does that mean. i genuinely don’t understand where this goes or what it implies it's just a noted disparity that people freaking out about it being said says more than the actual statement itself. yasha's greater point was though that so far most of what bernies campaign/movement has amounted too is a new online media environment and not much else. reflecting on it now that iv had a few hours to digest it Id say i don't actually agree with that greater point as bernies movement definately mainstreamed a lot of stuff that were not mainstream before  it's just that our left is still very much in it's nascent stage (growing back from total obliteration during the cold war/post cold war consensus) so it doesn't look like much from a 50,000 foot view
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THS posted:within the context of “left to liberals” and the bernie sanders insurgency, we got loving ethered and there’s no getting around that we weren't actually fighting the democrats, lol. they rigged two primaries to deny people healthcare and the only response from the public faces of the left was to defend their own careers by rolling over like a dog. it was a concentrated effort to sheepdog working people to support an austerity rapist, and that succeeded, yes, but not in any meaningful way considering the end result is a republican one party state, lmao.
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i say swears online posted:I agree but hoo boy making hay out of patreon couch change is dumb Ah, the PredictIt high roller now thinks $35k/month is couch change.
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Taintrunner posted:we weren't actually fighting the democrats, lol. they rigged two primaries to deny people healthcare and the only response from the public faces of the left was to defend their own careers by rolling over like a dog. it was a concentrated effort to sheepdog working people to support an austerity rapist, and that succeeded, yes, but not in any meaningful way considering the end result is a republican one party state, lmao. it turned into sheepdogging the racist but i think you are wrong that this was the intention to begin with. it’s very crank to believe that not only was the game rigged (true) but that the sanders campaign was throwing it. after super tuesday the logic changed completely, and that’s where sanders made the calculation that he would not harm biden’s campaign
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taintrunner i will send u pics of my rear end in a top hat if u buy me cyberpunk and/or the wow expansion
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ill just send u pics of my rear end in a top hat for free but only with ur consent 😇
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i think where i agree with dore is that the left isn’t mean enough and is trying to engage with the democratic party, no one should be trying to “rise through the ranks” or whatever - that’s loving insane, the planet is dying. there is no time pre-2020, i think it was a strategy worth pursuing. getting behind the bernie sanders campaign was not a mistake. but to not learn from that is incredibly stupid
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Varinn posted:wasnt jimmy dore a huge tulsi gabbard guy lmao Yes. He sucks and is bad.
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Protagorean posted:ill just send u pics of my rear end in a top hat for free but only with ur consent 😇 don’t sell yourself short, goon. get those games
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THS posted:i think where i agree with dore is that the left isn’t mean enough and is trying to engage with the democratic party, no one should be trying to “rise through the ranks” or whatever - that’s loving insane, the planet is dying. there is no time Yeah, I think you need to meet people where they are and "we tried to work within the system and look where that got us" is a decent message to push, especially with how awful Biden has already been without even taking office.
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Varinn posted:wasnt jimmy dore a huge tulsi gabbard guy lmao we have all been horny from time to time so it's forgivable
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Yossarian-22 posted:we have all been horny from time to time so it's forgivable Yeah, she's only ugly on the inside....
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mcmagic posted:Yeah, she's only ugly on the inside.... Unlike every other dem
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the idea that AOC is going to get committee assignments and become an elder stateswoman through really doing the hard work of a legislator is so loving funny- the last thing the left needs right now is buying into that Very Serious People bourgeois illusion. this is very clearly a game we do not need to be playing or taking seriously on their (the bourgeoisie) terms. gently caress them. that’s not to say we shouldn’t be serious and merciless on our own terms though. this isn’t about aesthetic, it’s about goals, and ours are diametrically opposed to the democratic party as an institution
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THS posted:the idea that AOC is going to get committee assignments and become an elder stateswoman through really doing the hard work of a legislator is so loving funny- the last thing the left needs right now is buying into that Very Serious People bourgeois illusion. this is very clearly a game we do not need to be playing or taking seriously on their (the bourgeoisie) terms. gently caress them. that’s not to say we shouldn’t be serious and merciless on our own terms though. this isn’t about aesthetic, it’s about goals, and ours are diametrically opposed to the democratic party as an institution i mean the dilemma is that if she did become that person she would probably have to become as cretinous as pelosi in the process
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THS posted:the idea that AOC is going to get committee assignments and become an elder stateswoman through really doing the hard work of a legislator is so loving funny- the last thing the left needs right now is buying into that Very Serious People bourgeois illusion. this is very clearly a game we do not need to be playing or taking seriously on their (the bourgeoisie) terms. gently caress them. that’s not to say we shouldn’t be serious and merciless on our own terms though. this isn’t about aesthetic, it’s about goals, and ours are diametrically opposed to the democratic party as an institution It's not just an illusion, it's an illusion that's been deployed about countless past "progressive" legislators who proceeded to spectacular betrayal. Pelosi might have been one of them even.
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Yossarian-22 posted:we have all been horny from time to time so it's forgivable haha, horny time to stick this tube of dynamite up my rear end,
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt3G_h749lE Good to see Virgil making the same point I've tied to the whole recent situation with AOC and the Speaker vote - that the issue is that AOC and other Congressional progressives aren't actually in an opposition role relative to the Democratic Party. edit: He's totally wrong about how a parliamentary system would work out in the US, though; Pelosi and most Dems would work with the business conservatives in such a situation (and would easily be able to form a majority with that alliance), not the left.
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it kind of depends. we had an unfortunately short (but still fairly productive) period where labor had to work with the greens before the australian national sport of replacing PMs kicked off.
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The Dalai Lama is a symbol of peace, love, and compassion, and it’s my honor to serve so many of his followers in the Tibetan community as the Representative for New York’s 14th Congressional District. The Tibetan community is an essential part of our district, whether serving as nurses and frontline workers during this pandemic, or fighting for the rights of the Tibetan people at home. It was my honor to join many of them as a Losar Tibetan New Year celebration last year and I am pleased to work regularly with the Tibetan community on immigration and other issues. I was also proud to vote in support of the Tibet Policy and Support Act of 2019, which would establish as U.S. policy that the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama is a religious matter that should be decided solely by Tibetan Buddhists; specify that Chinese officials who interfere in the Dalai Lama’s succession process will be subject to Global Magnitsky sanctions; mandate that China cannot establish any new consulates in the U.S. until a U.S. consulate is established in Tibet; and authorize State Department programs for Tibetan cultural and environmental conservation. I look forward to continuing to work together with the Tibetan community to continue to reshape our future.
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AOC bringing Free Tibet bumper stickers back in 2021 baybee
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