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gradenko_2000 posted:Dore stopped mentioning Gabbard and having her on his show after mid-March She didn't just become a piece of poo poo in mid march LOL
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gradenko_2000 posted:Dore stopped mentioning Gabbard and having her on his show after mid-March it's really hard for me to get over dore having been a tulsi guy lmao. i know i'm probably in the wrong here but holy poo poo that's incredibly poor judgement and i just viscerally dislike the guy. he's right about the specific and current AOC debate thing, but i don't trust him. i really think he's a buffoon i guess it doesn't really matter how i feel about him though. i like glenn greenwald so i should accept that objectively dog brained people can have ok politics
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mcmagic posted:She didn't just become a piece of poo poo in mid march LOL Sanders also didn't start being a booster for the establishment in April. What's your point?
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THS posted:also while wikileaks and greenwald have very different approaches to publishing material, greenwald has been one of the loudest and most high profile voices calling attention to the total shitshow miscarriage of an extradition happening to assange in the UK. the ignorance on the precedent being set and just how bad that trial is, is really astounding the trueanon episode on assange was really loving good but yeah it's really loving awful. A whole lot of D&D-esque libs are cheering for straight up perpetual torture and indefinite solitary confinement out of some insane wokeness because of some obama/clinton years grudge is just loving gross.
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platzapS posted:...sneaky snake Mike Duncan... excellent
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gradenko_2000 posted:Sanders also didn't start being a booster for the establishment in April. What's your point? Wanna compare their record's in public life?
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mcmagic posted:She didn't just become a piece of poo poo in mid march LOL got his rear end
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Algund Eenboom posted:The Dalai Lama is a symbol of peace, love, and compassion, and it’s my honor to serve so many of his followers in the Tibetan community as the Representative for New York’s 14th Congressional District. this seems like AOC working to advance US imperialism, but she's actually bringing back investiture controversies to reach out to the CK3 fan community
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THS posted:the idea that AOC is going to get committee assignments and become an elder stateswoman through really doing the hard work of a legislator is so loving funny- the last thing the left needs right now is buying into that Very Serious People bourgeois illusion. this is very clearly a game we do not need to be playing or taking seriously on their (the bourgeoisie) terms. gently caress them. that’s not to say we shouldn’t be serious and merciless on our own terms though. this isn’t about aesthetic, it’s about goals, and ours are diametrically opposed to the democratic party as an institution if AOC can stay in office for a few more cycles she'll end up outliving all of these old--rear end 'leadership' people in congress, and then she'll become an elder stateswoman by default lol gerontocracy win
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Finicums Wake posted:if AOC can stay in office for a few more cycles she'll end up outliving all of these old--rear end 'leadership' people in congress, and then she'll become an elder stateswoman by default lol And then her transformation into Pelosi mk. 2 will be complete.
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Prince Myshkin posted:It's not just an illusion, it's an illusion that's been deployed about countless past "progressive" legislators who proceeded to spectacular betrayal. Pelosi might have been one of them even.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Sanders also didn't start being a booster for the establishment in April. What's your point? lol that you don't already have mcmagic on ignore mcmagic posted:Confirmed. lol tho
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol that you don't already have mcmagic on ignore I thought we was McDowell lmao
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I don't live in the US but I watch Jimmy Dore and to be honest he strikes me as a guy who has his heart in the right place. The whole thing boils down to: there is an unprecedented pandemic going on and the US has the most broken healthcare system that I know off. Why wouldn't you try and fix it? On the face it is such a simple argument and is so right for this moment, why would you even need to debate this? This pisses me off about Christman as well, and I generally like the dude very much, but the whole schtick of it "won't do anything substantial" just pisses me off when someone has a simple goal you can actually realize. Maybe it'll spark something else, just get it done.
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KomradeX posted:Thinking they're more useful as celebrities, than the actual elected officials that they are is a loving waste. If all they are are celebrities now than they're loving useless, it's pure lib brain to think celebrities will be useful for gently caress all anything you seem to be under the impression that I think the squad being more celebrities than elected officials is a good thing! but I do not. Taintrunner posted:It literally did not, the Republicans are on track to be the only major political party in America after 2024, lmao. vbnmw’s goal is to get everyone to vote for the democrat no matter how much they suck, which objectively happened in 2020. it is not to save the democrat party, much less America.
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:I don't live in the US but I watch Jimmy Dore and to be honest he strikes me as a guy who has his heart in the right place. I mean, considering we just had the largest protest movement in American history and little came of it, I don't think you can blame the guy for being jaded. Doesn't mean it's not something worth trying though
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:This pisses me off about Christman as well, and I generally like the dude very much, but the whole schtick of it "won't do anything substantial" just pisses me off when someone has a simple goal you can actually realize. chris hedges has a good bit that's basically a very polite 'gently caress your idle hope'. to horribly summarize, there's a hope that things can be done that won't be costly, and it's a lie. if you believe it overly much, you'll chase illusions instead of going for the miserable slog that's necessary
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THS posted:it's really hard for me to get over dore having been a tulsi guy lmao. i know i'm probably in the wrong here but holy poo poo that's incredibly poor judgement and i just viscerally dislike the guy. he's right about the specific and current AOC debate thing, but i don't trust him. i really think he's a buffoon Hey man, it's Christmas.
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Pirate Jet posted:vbnmw’s goal is to get everyone to vote for the democrat no matter how much they suck, which objectively happened in 2020. it is not to save the democrat party, much less America. they voted for one democrat. the Republicans made gains in the house and will retain the Senate, then sweep 2022 and 2024 after austerity Biden pisses in everyone’s face. so objectively, it was not successful. people were predicting a blue wave, not a wet fart.
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gh0stpinballa posted:chapo xmas special put a smile on my face I liked it. Lotta guests on there too, Stav, the e1 guys and I think they got ike barinholtz back lol
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THS posted:it's really hard for me to get over dore having been a tulsi guy lmao. i know i'm probably in the wrong here but holy poo poo that's incredibly poor judgement and i just viscerally dislike the guy. he's right about the specific and current AOC debate thing, but i don't trust him. i really think he's a buffoon dore, by his own admission, is not a smart man. but as others have mentioned, he comes off as pretty genuine w/ his heart in the right place. dore is an avid anti-imperialist and long-time proponent of UBI, and when tusli was still in she was popularizing UBI and humiliating establishment dems and media pundits who didn't know what the gently caress "regime change wars" were. dore loves seeing those people get humiliated. he was dumb to endorse her but i can empathize with his particular blinders. to his credit, he dropped her.. though tbf i don't know if he's since disavowed his support for her.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol that you don't already have mcmagic on ignore lol ignore is for cowards.
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There are 81 representatives in the House Progressive Caucus. The fact that not even any five of those 81, including the supposed most left members, can be bothered to apply pressure to the dems speaks volumes for their supposed progressive views. When the progressives do start talking or pressuring, their focus is against the left and their stated goal is to stifle any progress outside of appeals to work within the system. Dore is demonstrating that this is true and remains true and will be true in the future. Regardless of the success or failure of M4A, he has been successful in getting the progressives to show to the world that they fight the hardest against progress.
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Prince Myshkin posted:Ah, the PredictIt high roller now thinks $35k/month is couch change. lmao I make $1700/month but at least I know what rich people are
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bedpan posted:There are 81 representatives in the House Progressive Caucus. The fact that not even any five of those 81, including the supposed most left members, can be bothered to apply pressure to the dems speaks volumes for their supposed progressive views. When the progressives do start talking or pressuring, their focus is against the left and their stated goal is to stifle any progress outside of appeals to work within the system. Dore is demonstrating that this is true and remains true and will be true in the future. Regardless of the success or failure of M4A, he has been successful in getting the progressives to show to the world that they fight the hardest against progress. nailed it
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reading a special edition of Welcome to Hell World while waiting for the potatoes to boil, merry xmas to everyone but the haters, losers, and podcasters of the world. god bless
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Taintrunner posted:they voted for one democrat. the Republicans made gains in the house and will retain the Senate, then sweep 2022 and 2024 after austerity Biden pisses in everyone’s face. so objectively, it was not successful. people were predicting a blue wave, not a wet fart. i also watched the news last month. pay me $1200 to continue this conversation
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Pirate Jet posted:i also watched the news last month. pay me $1200 to continue this conversation thank you for admitting I’m right, jackass.
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If you believe that the Republicans will sweep the midterms in 2022, then why do you want AOC to lay the groundwork for primary challenges now? If it's successful and we get a bunch of better Dem candidates in 2022, wouldn't that backfire spectacularly when they get trounced by Republicans in the general?
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Gripweed posted:If you believe that the Republicans will sweep the midterms in 2022, then why do you want AOC to lay the groundwork for primary challenges now? If it's successful and we get a bunch of better Dem candidates in 2022, wouldn't that backfire spectacularly when they get trounced by Republicans in the general? one of the marvelous things about this particular brain worm is that it implicitly discards the notion of any "pushing biden left" happening before 2022
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