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I said come in! posted:The more I think about it, WW84 surpasses Batman v Superman, and Suicide Squad for worst DC comic book movie of the last 10 years. I think it might be worst ever. Top 3 easily.
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Dec 26, 2020 05:49
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I said come in! posted:This movie does not make me hopeful for Warner Brothers 2021 films. It makes me nervous for Rogue Squadron, which Jenkins is helming. Everything about this movie is *lazy*. It seems like they shot hours and hours of poo poo, cut it down to 2.5 and went  .
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Dec 26, 2020 05:49
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Mat Cauthon posted:It reeks of some social media intern at WB/DC letting the suits know that there's a lot of criticism of Gal Gadot for her involvement and propagandizing of the IDF on Twitter, Tumblr, etc and then they give Jenkins a note saying "HAVE WONDER WOMAN SAVE SOME BROWN KIDS". https://twitter.com/robrousseau/status/1342653828701822977
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Dec 26, 2020 05:50
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Hello, my character arc is that I am so in love with wonder woman I want to become her, no wait, that doesn't matter, I take it back my new wish is to become a cheetah instead. Oh well, I died easily. Barbara makes a second wish to be an apex predator; becoming Cheetah is just the whole Monkey's Paw and all that. The film has a lot going against it, but not all the character beats with Barbara are bad.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:WTF when did she switch to the bird armor? She was just swinging from lightning out in the middle of nowhere.
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Dec 26, 2020 05:56
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How did the Nasty Woman rescind her wish?
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Dec 26, 2020 05:59
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It makes me nervous for Rogue Squadron, which Jenkins is helming. Her first Wonder Woman film was so good! I watch it all the time. What the gently caress happened this time? Jenkins showed so much promise.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:00
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Augus posted:cats was so good they just had to fast-track the sequel There is no way a Cats sequel could be this bad.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:00
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teagone posted:Barbara makes a second wish to be an apex predator; becoming Cheetah is just the whole Monkey's Paw and all that. The film has a lot going against it, but not all the character beats with Barbara are bad. Reminds me, did she actually say “wish”? Was she touching him when she said it? I thought those were the rules of this movie, but didn’t seem like they followed them by that point.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:01
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Grem posted:How did the Nasty Woman rescind her wish? the irish guy rescinded his wish so she didn't die and then she got back up and decided not to be racist anymore because
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Grem posted:How did the Nasty Woman rescind her wish? She didn't, everyone else rescinded theirs and so they got what they gave up back, which was what made her... A cat? Who had cat features to give up for Max Lord to steal and give to her? Did an actual cat make a wish? For that matter, who had tornado powers for Max to steal that he used to defend himself from the lasso of truth? Did the Wind Wizard wish for his cable to be turned back on? smackfu posted:Reminds me, did she actually say “wish”? Was she touching him when she said it? I thought those were the rules of this movie, but didn’t seem like they followed them by that point. Nah, that deal wasn't a wish, and was also probably the most clever part of the movie. Max is stealing from everyone who makes a wish, and he's genuinely grateful to her for defending him back at the White House, so he offers to hook her up. She's all, "I want to be unique, and the strongest and coolest," and he's all, "Yeah, I can do that" so while he's granting wishes later he passes along some of the payment he's getting to her. When he's giving out wishes on TV he says, "You give her your strength, and you give her your ferocity!" Presumably he also passed along someone's tail at some point. They're best friends and they trust each other, it's touching. Mystic Mongol fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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Dec 26, 2020 06:02
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She said she wanted to be "like no other person." An "apex predator." The Cheetah poo poo literally came from her liking Diana's cheetah-print heels at the beginning, which presumably influenced her clothing choices as she got ~more powerful~. This loving movie.
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smackfu posted:Reminds me, did she actually say “wish”? Was she touching him when she said it? I thought those were the rules of this movie, but didn’t seem like they followed them by that point. The script and direction is weak. The scene ends with Max telling Barbara he likes the way she thinks and to continue explaining how she wants to be #1 apex predator, lol. I guess it's only implied that they follow the in-universe rules? But then the other poo poo happens with the super satellites so... [edit] Owlofcreamcheese posted:I get what happened in a plot sense, but as a character arc it's a mess. Ahh, yeah I just thought you were criticizing the "why" of how she becomes Cheetah when the film at least sort of explains it competently enough. teagone fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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Dec 26, 2020 06:07
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teagone posted:Barbara makes a second wish to be an apex predator; becoming Cheetah is just the whole Monkey's Paw and all that. The film has a lot going against it, but not all the character beats with Barbara are bad. I get what happened in a plot sense, but as a character arc it's a mess. Like she's a lonely awkward weak woman at the start, so she wishes to be someone else. She becomes someone else but in the process gives up what made her her (her kindness). Then she renounces that and just wants to become strong on her own. And she becomes a literal cat lady and is clearly way weaker and worse off than being wonderwoman2. Like, she doesn't really learn anything or have any particular reason to get punished with a cat form other than a pun. Why is wishman even messing with her at this point? They seem to be friends, why even mess up her wish if she's fighting on his side?
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Dec 26, 2020 06:08
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Then she renounces that and just wants to become strong on her own. And she becomes a literal cat lady and is clearly way weaker and worse off than being wonderwoman2. She's stronger than the ultimate armor forged to defeat every army on earth simultaneously, I don't think she got the weak magic powers. She just lost to electricity, which is Wonder Woman's thematic link to Zeus.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:11
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Mystic Mongol posted:She didn't, everyone else rescinded theirs and so they got what they gave up back, which was what made her... The Nasty Woman was the lady that got wished to drop dead
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Dec 26, 2020 06:12
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I said come in! posted:Her first Wonder Woman film was so good! I watch it all the time. What the gently caress happened this time? Jenkins showed so much promise. The first movie was good because it had a multitude of characters for us to care about in a setting that allowed for WW to exist in the background of our timeline. Pretty easy for a woman to quietly blend into history in 1917. This one sucked in large part because it made us focus on four main characters who seemed confused most of the time, and it completely uproots the continuity of the DCEU for no reason or gain.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:12
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Bizarre fuckin movie.
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The editor must have died half through post production and no one was told and then they just assumed the movie was done.
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Mystic Mongol posted:
They set up he's running a pyramid scheme with his business but doesn't know or won't admit it. It felt like that was going to tie into what he was doing with wishes. But they felt just random wish to wish if he was creating new things or just shuffling stuff. Like a different movie could have played up the idea that every wish granted lost someone else something and he is the only one that benefits, but like, nah.
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I said come in! posted:The editor must have died half through post production and no one was told and then they just assumed the movie was done. This movie has to have been effected by covid, it must have been people working from home and not being able to see eachother's work enough to catch even basic concepts like the order of the seats in a plane or if she was wearing wings,riding lightning or using her her boyfriend's secret flight technique or if she owns a tv or not.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:21
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I said come in! posted:The editor must have died half through post production and no one was told and then they just assumed the movie was done. If that was true I think this movie would've been 37 hours long. It's the reversal of the Patton Oswalt bit about how women "refine" things, how if Lucas had had his way, every Star Wars movie would've been an unwatchable epic, and it was his editors that made the final product work.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:23
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That movie was so hosed with by the studio. And it needed a rewrite. Last act was better than first act and a half, but they never bothered to go back and make the rest work with the story (I think?) they are trying to tell. Also, this year having mankind Behave better does not work with what people do with Covid, oh boy.
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I gotta say, “if you give the people what they want, they’ll explicitly choose to destroy the world” coupled with “when you think about it, change is the actual enemy” is some pretty hosed up messaging I didn’t expect to be hit with when I sat down to watch this movie.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:23
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why was Diana hiding the fact that she could fly, that probably would’ve been useful to use against doomsday or steppenwolf
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At least WB makes interesting bad films, unlike the Marvel counter part bad films
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Baronash posted:I gotta say, “if you give the people what they want, they’ll explicitly choose to destroy the world” coupled with “when you think about it, change is the actual enemy” is some pretty hosed up messaging I didn’t expect to be hit with when I sat down to watch this movie. "Hope is a lie, be happy with what you have, never wish for anything better, only the special get what they want by breaking the rules and seemingly suffer no consequences. Eat Arby's." Kinda encapsulates the past four years rather well, honestly.  Also, Lord renounces his wish, but the pilots on Marine One just fly him to his son, no questions asked? What the gently caress?
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Baronash posted:I gotta say, “if you give the people what they want, they’ll explicitly choose to destroy the world” coupled with “when you think about it, change is the actual enemy” is some pretty hosed up messaging I didn’t expect to be hit with when I sat down to watch this movie. the first movie was about taking a stand against the endless cycle of violence no matter what anyone else tells you is possible and how people can lift each other up and strive to be better, the second movie is about how wanting things is bad lol
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I said come in! posted:Her first Wonder Woman film was so good! I watch it all the time. What the gently caress happened this time? Jenkins showed so much promise. Different writers this time around Patty Jenkins Geoff Johns (lol) David Callaham First movie: Screenplay by Allan heinberg Story by Zack Snyder Allan Heinberg Jason Fuchs Woops!
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Dec 26, 2020 06:33
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Yeah, Geoff Johns did Green Lantern. 'Nuff said. EDIT: He produced it, didn't write it. Augus posted:why was Diana hiding the fact that she could fly, that probably would’ve been useful to use against doomsday or steppenwolf Superman had just come back to life and she didn't want to give him an inferiority complex. 
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Dec 26, 2020 06:38
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I said come in! posted:Her first Wonder Woman film was so good! I watch it all the time. What the gently caress happened this time? Jenkins showed so much promise. I haven't seen it yet but from the complaints it sounds like she just straight made an 80's comic book movie like Superman or Swamp Thing
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BIG HEADLINE posted:If that was true I think this movie would've been 37 hours long. Lmao yikes
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teagone posted:Barbara makes a second wish to be an apex predator; becoming Cheetah is just the whole Monkey's Paw and all that. The film has a lot going against it, but not all the character beats with Barbara are bad. Technically the apex predator is Randy Orton
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So wait, at the end, it explicitly showed...reverse footage of a silo launch but also missles just evaporating. And all of the bad things stopped, but the reunion takes place in a cheaply dressed field of trash that didn’t get reversed too? I also felt like I was going crazy because I must’ve missed why people were mobbing outside of Max’s building as his power was increasing, and the mobs just grew and grew like it was meaningful or I should know why people would want to be in front of the business that owns ‘half the worlds oil’. He also stated his motivation at the end was to get more health and poo poo, but before that, it seems like he NEEDS to grant wishes. What’s his goal? To just grant wishes and take stuff from every person on the planet? I knew the movie was going to be lovely when they hopped in a plane and flew to Egypt, no big deal. meanolmrcloud fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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I just can't enjoy fantastical stories if there isn't realistic flight control systems in place
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meanolmrcloud posted:I also felt like I was going crazy because I must’ve missed why people were mobbing outside of Max’s building as his power was increasing, and the mobs just grew and grew like it was meaningful or I should know why people would want to be in front of the business that owns ‘half the worlds oil’ Because for one low weekly payment you too can get a cut of their profits.
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