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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Wonder Woman faced with no choice but to kill Max Lord by snapping his neck? It’d never work. People with no knowledge of the comics would just say Jenkins copied Zod's death.
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Blue Raider posted:It’s both over- and under-explained. Over in the sense that they went to the trouble to explain that the guy had an apartment and a job and under in the sense that they jumped through those hoops with no build up to begin with. I think the body snatcher resurrection thing works if it applies to everyone else except Steve Trevor. Diana gave up literal godlike power in exchange, she should just get her ghost boyfriend back. Normal people don't have that much to trade, so they get the bargain basement version - whoever they wish for back takes over someone else's body, which creates a daisy chain of wishes for Max Lord/Dreamstone to feed off of. That said, it does feel like Max Lord was unnecessary (and poorly handled) and the relationship tension between Barbara/Diana/Steve would've been the better focus, maybe with Circe as the main villain? Although then you're explicitly getting into the trope of "queer person turns evil/monstrous because they were spurned in favor of a cishet pairing" (instead of just insinuating it as they did, now that I think about it), which I don't not have faith in any major studio to handle well. Also they should've discarded the Cheetah thing and had Barbara turn into a Chimera or something more mythologically appropriate, faithfulness to the comics be damned. That villain has always looked corny and it makes no sense in the context of the story they were telling unless it really was meant to invoke "cheater", which yikes. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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William Marston was incredibly horny, and in addition to a strong Amazon whose weakness was being tied up he made a woman in a sexy cat suit, and later that character evolved into a sexy catgirl because comics
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Why did the president have to even be involved? Why was it important the president wish for war instead of just getting any of the million random people that would want a war with Russia in 1984? Why did max lord even WANT a war?
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Dec 26, 2020 19:33
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Hobo Clown posted:Do you think any of the 2017 Smithsonian employees wonder why the woman who has worked there at least the 80s doesn't appear to age? The exact same amount as Clark's colleagues at the planet who notice he looks identical to Superman
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Why did the president have to even be involved? Why was it important the president wish for war instead of just getting any of the million random people that would want a war with Russia in 1984? Why did max lord even WANT a war? Max wishes to have the same respect and command the president did. Why the president himself had to make this wish is stupid, and unclear.
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I've given up watching this movie, I'm just skipping around now. Star Wars moved pretty quick for something Reagan announced in March of 83. He isn't even the president the next year. That said, Andropov would have totally prepped for launch if there were some surprise nuclear missiles in Germany that he didn't know about. SDI stuff is such a minor nitpick though, there's plenty wrong with this movie. This feels like two movies were written about 2/3rds of the way, then crammed together to make something overly long and uneven. Kmart Killgrave really wasn't necessary for this movie, it really should have focused on Barbara's descent to inhumanity/rise to power. Making it a global problem rather than a small scale thing really hosed the movie up, and the movie series. She isn't exactly making herself hard to see, so her attempts to stay anonymous by the time of Batman vs Superman just looks weird (and she forgets some of the powers she picks up because I guess she wanted to give Doomsday and Steppenwolf a handicap). Also echoing the complaints that Gal Gadot's stunts were all really poorly greenscreened and floaty, and why does she think she's Spiderman? So much of this feels cheesy in a bad way.
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The whole thing about the gold armor is just...............lmao man this movie is just a mess
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Diana telling Steve he can't use a sword was weird.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:The whole thing about the gold armor is just...............lmao Aquaman had to at least do a whole quest for it which involved some pretty awesome creatures
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Cut out a bunch of the 80s schlock and make Diana go on a quest to find Asteria's armor that was last seen in the depths of Tartarus or something. Have her fight a bunch of mythological demons to get that armor. Would bolster the "I've killed things from other worlds before" line in BvS.
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teagone posted:Diana telling Steve he can't use a sword was weird. It begs the question: if Steve's soul container had taken a bullet to the head during the WH fight, would he have just downloaded into another guy?
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The Trump vibes emanating from Pedro Pascal are intentional right?
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Samara posted:The Trump vibes emanating from Pedro Pascal are intentional right? His magic wishing powers conjure up a wall.
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Some cracked out producer, in 80s fashion, thought we wanted to see one of the gods from Gods of Egypt fight one of the abominations from Cats, and I respect them for trying to give us that. The end product was disappointing, but an effort was made. e: Seriously they gave the bad guy a blue beam of evil light, again? As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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Dec 26, 2020 20:03
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teagone posted:Diana telling Steve he can't use a sword was weird. Why? She didn't want him to impale someone and made sure the White House guards weren't crumpled in the Barbara fight.
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teagone posted:Cut out a bunch of the 80s schlock and make Diana go on a quest to find Asteria's armor that was last seen in the depths of Tartarus or something. Have her fight a bunch of mythological demons to get that armor. Would bolster the "I've killed things from other worlds before" line in BvS. Counterproposal: Make the whole movie 80s schlock. The opening mall heist was fun times, continuity is a gently caress because who cares about Justice League?
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Basebf555 posted:Aquaman had to at least do a whole quest for it which involved some pretty awesome creatures Here it's just sitting in her closet and she doesn't bother to use it even though it's the most powerful armor ever made lol
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Basebf555 posted:Aquaman had to at least do a whole quest for it which involved some pretty awesome creatures Here she just....has it already! lmfao
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Space Fish posted:Why? She didn't want him to impale someone and made sure the White House guards weren't crumpled in the Barbara fight. Sure. It was more so a weird continuity thing with her readily using a sword in other canon films that take place later. But yeah I guess she does say "they don't know any better" and possibly learned a lesson that stabby stabby doesn't solve everything from the first film? But some of then again, some of the guards in the white house were cops and ACAB. And also: Nix Panicus posted:continuity is a gently caress because who cares about Justice League? ...this too I guess, lmao.
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Oof. That was bad. And why/how did those monochrome IBM XTs receive a broadcast signal and display it in color?
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This movie reminds me of the comic movies from before 2008 (before Dark Knight and Iron Man came out) where they just made poo poo up and it didn't matter if it made sense. Gotta stop the nuclear war. Wait I'm gonna swing by my apartment and change clothes first. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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As Nero Danced posted:This movie reminds me of the comic movies from before 2008 (before Dark Knight and Iron Man came out) where they just made poo poo up and it didn't matter if it made sense. Ok YES what the gently caress was this!!!!
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I can’t get over how nobody wished for world peace. What would have happened if Mondale wished for less nukes after Reagan wished for more? This movie is garbage and Casting a marginally attractive actress in a role that calls for a magic transformation from nerd to beauty was a bad call. Also, isn’t this supposed to be all about female empowerment?
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Pillowpants posted:I can’t get over how nobody wished for world peace. What would have happened if Mondale wished for less nukes after Reagan wished for more? This movie is garbage and Casting a marginally attractive actress in a role that calls for a magic transformation from nerd to beauty was a bad call. Wait, was that actually supposed to be Reagan?
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Roth posted:Wait, was that actually supposed to be Reagan? The US president in '84, and the whole 'touch the world' tech is explicitly referenced to be based on Star Wars tech
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Someone wished for Reagan to not be president.
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Roth posted:Wait, was that actually supposed to be Reagan? An addled dipshit who stumbles into a nuclear war with the Soviet Union?
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Roth posted:Wait, was that actually supposed to be Reagan? "How did I get here I could swear I was just somewhere else." Checks out.
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I must protect these secret service guards because they are affected by an evil wish, they have no say in what is happening to them! However that guy whose body you stole, gently caress him lol
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Here's the death of Maxwell Lord in the comics. It's so much better-written than the movie: https://comicnewbies.com/2017/08/06/wonder-woman-kills-maxwell-lord/ Lol that's pretty dumb and ugly And peeps complain about sfx and silly plotting  like what do you want??
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I can’t get over that this movie was in the can for a year and they had Hans loving Zimmer on the payroll and they used a temp track from a 12 year old movie for the climax.
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They ruined Max Lord in the comics by having him be a bad guy. The movie did him better by having him be a guy in over his head and all he really wanted was to make his kid proud of him. He's the best character in the movie by far and probably the only thing it got right.
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Alexander Hamilton posted:I can’t get over that this movie was in the can for a year and they had Hans loving Zimmer on the payroll and they used a temp track from a 12 year old movie for the climax. On top of which Zimmer has some great poo poo in this film but it’s mostly at the beginning and they don’t really let him do what he can. I don’t understand what happened here. (Also, while I love his scores Zimmers kind of a fraud so yeah.)
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Pillowpants posted:I can’t get over how nobody wished for world peace. If Max had the cameras on Barbera during the White House fight everyone would've wished for Wonder Woman's cool, sexy friend to step on them instead of nuclear holocaust and the world would be saved. Barbera's schedule would be full for the next forever, though. Not very empowering.
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kilus aof posted:Giving a character 100 years of adventures is just not as good as having 100 years of her moping about some dude she knew for a week that died. Hey not just some dude, if you remember the first one he's some dude with a longass dick! New body new dick though 
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the “monkey’s paw” in the movie isn’t actually a monkey’s paw. it doesn’t corrupt the logic of the wish to turn it against the wisher, giving them what they wanted but not the way they expected. the original monkey’s paw story has a man wish for 200 pounds, the people grants it by making his son die in a factory accident, and the company denies all liability but gives him a consolatory 200 pounds. the wishes in the movie don’t do that, they just take away something mostly unrelated as payment for granting the wish.Alexander Hamilton posted:I can’t get over that this movie was in the can for a year and they had Hans loving Zimmer on the payroll and they used a temp track from a 12 year old movie for the climax. wait what lol
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I can't decide if this movie is worse than F4. It's certainly less coherent.
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Upside Potential posted:I might have been drinking too much but why didn't WW get electrocuted in the fight with the furry I’m convinced this scene was reshot or a remnant of an earlier draft. Diana pleads with Barbara to give up her powers willingly. When she refuses, Diana allows the electrical cables to It’s like somebody realized that you can’t kill Barbara and let Lord go.
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