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One of the writers remembered that scene in Little Nicky where he said "that didn't kill me it just hurt a lot" and wanted to do their own version of it. Not letting Diana kill anyone really hurt this movie's action. That and not having a sword, instead she spends most of it being a knockoff Spidergirl.
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Hobo Clown posted:However that guy whose body you stole, gently caress him lol Spoilers
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Dec 26, 2020 22:07
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Hobo Clown posted:I must protect these secret service guards because they are affected by an evil wish, they have no say in what is happening to them! However that guy whose body you stole, gently caress him lol It's pretty hilarious the plot of multiple sci-fi and horror movies, having your body stolen, is just a thing the protagonist couple do and fight to maintain.
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Dec 26, 2020 22:10
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Blood Boils posted:And peeps complain about sfx and silly plotting The story is bad, the sfx are bad, and the cgi is also bad! Why is everyone bagging on this movie!?
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Dec 26, 2020 22:14
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like what do you want??
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Blood Boils posted:Lol that's pretty dumb and ugly that moment was a climax for a fairly tight storyline that hinged on the character study of Superman vs others like Wonder Woman and the entire point was basically 'Lord thought he could play these little D&D paladin moral games with every hero in a fancy outfit and pulled that poo poo with a warrior princess and not a farm boy boy scout'. It's not my favorite Wonder Woman storyline but it's told in a fairly clear and satisfying way that explores her and her fellow heroes fairly well. This movie was two and a half hours of plodding around with no real point that involves a lot lovely effects and leaves the characters basically exactly as they started but with a weird body jacking issue that never gets resolved
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Dec 26, 2020 22:35
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If you want a cool lady with a magic sword and her catgirl going through friends to enemies to lovers, jsut watch the new She-Ra.
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Dec 26, 2020 22:41
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MonsieurChoc posted:If you want a cool lady with a magic sword and her catgirl going through friends to enemies to lovers, jsut watch the new She-Ra. Unironically this. I've never understood how WB just doesn't get the brainwave of "hey, let's just make live action versions of our animated movies - sure, the people who like the animated movies will  but they're nerds and a minority of our target audience of rubes who just wanna see T&A, 'splosions, and wacky fight scenes."
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Dec 26, 2020 22:44
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I was hoping this movie would be weirder. Latino Trump summoning a border wall in Egypt is okay, but nowhere near enough to offset the more normal, less good parts of the movie. A few people have already noted that there's a deep anti-populist streak to this movie. Lord's Trump-like figure is bad not because of malicious designs, but because he provides a direct line for people's desires to be realized within the White House. Their desires being realized upsets the natural order — just like the opening competition and Lord's stated desire for greatness — by giving status and power to people who don't deserve it. This upsetting of the natural order portends the total collapse of civilization. We can say more about this "desire," such that the movie presents it: people don't want more just because. Rather, it's a reaction to the bad circumstances in their life. Take Barbara as typical: she doesn't just want power but an escape from the position she's been stuck in by 80's patriarchy. Not just safety and being seen as valuable but autonomy, the ability to live on her own terms. One of the things that stands out to me is what the approach the movie takes to this desiring, in Diana's final soliloquy: This desire is pathological. It's a form of lashing out in response to hurt or suffering. The problem with this is that by psychologizing the suffering, it takes away the badness of the suffering. So, for instance, Barbara's desire to be free of patriarchy and be valued on her own terms is presented as her being unable to cope with her suffering, instead of it being her wanting a dignity to which she is entitled. Consequently, instead of taking the perspective that patriarchy is bad because of the harms of misogyny, the problem is transformed into Barbara's moral weakness. It's reminiscent of the moral warping from marvel spider man and black panther, where we can recognize the villain's motivations as intrinsically right, but are then sort of contrived to still be wrong within the moral universe of the movie.
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Dec 26, 2020 22:53
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I'll never watch this movie in a million years, so I'll just ask here: at any point does Gal Gadot wear a headband and ankle warmers?
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Dec 26, 2020 23:54
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I guess Diana is a member of the warrior caste from a Hellenistic society, so her having a “I take what I loving want” attitude towards sex isn’t that crazy, but the whole body swap thing is still weirdly written and uhh, kinda problematic. It’s funny to imagine the evil stone thinking that bringing Steve back in another man’s body would present heartrending moral dilemmas to them as they balance being able to be together with effectively killing a random person, and neither of them give a single poo poo about it. Just imaging the evil god being like  ”seriously? Not even gonna think about the implications for like a minute? Wow, you people are hosed up.”
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Dec 26, 2020 23:57
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porfiria posted:I'll never watch this movie in a million years, so I'll just ask here: at any point does Gal Gadot wear a headband and ankle warmers? No. There's a montage of Chris Pine trying on goofy 80's outfits and Kristen Wiig wears a weird GLOW-like workout leotard but Gal herself dresses pretty normal throughout.
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Dec 26, 2020 23:58
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porfiria posted:I'll never watch this movie in a million years, so I'll just ask here: at any point does Gal Gadot wear a headband and ankle warmers? no the 80’s backdrop is almost entirely useless. There’s a scene where wiig suspects she might be getting strong, and dons a full on 80s workout getup to go a gym, and does nothing else but lift increasingly heavy amounts of weights in what is a totally charmless depiction of a person understanding their new powers. It’s also used for a gag scene with Chris pine, and to stuff other characters in whacky clothing, but doesn’t contribute anything else.
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Dec 27, 2020 00:00
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There's no reason for this to be set in the 80s. Other than the beginning, they don't even lean into the 80s stuff at all and it might as well have been set in modern time.
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Dec 27, 2020 00:02
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meanolmrcloud posted:no the 80’s backdrop is almost entirely useless. There’s a scene where wiig suspects she might be getting strong, and dons a full on 80s workout getup to go a gym, and does nothing else but lift increasingly heavy amounts of weights in what is a totally charmless depiction of a person understanding their new powers. It’s also used for a gag scene with Chris pine, and to stuff other characters in whacky clothing, but doesn’t contribute anything else. Codependent Poster posted:There's no reason for this to be set in the 80s. Other than the beginning, they don't even lean into the 80s stuff at all and it might as well have been set in modern time. The Cold War stuff is a good reason. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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Dec 27, 2020 00:03
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Here’s a fun take. https://twitter.com/briannawu/status/1342962911728324608?s=21
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Dec 27, 2020 00:07
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Already deleted and only alluded to... what was said? https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1342957780660064256?s=19
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Dec 27, 2020 00:35
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Space Fish posted:Already deleted and only alluded to... what was said? just a really generic 'actually I liked all the movies men hated like ghostbusters and rise of star wars and...that newest terminator movie....so I bet I'll like Wonder Woman' Kinda shocked she deleted it, it's nowhere near the dumbest thing she said just to get easy anger-RTs.
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Dec 27, 2020 00:37
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Just a reminder that while people are getting all butthurt over the "shooting a rocket at kids" scene that wasn't even in the movie nor was the rocket aimed at the kids, in the original cut she supposedly forcibly disarmed the "insurgents/terrorists" shooting their rifles (the Muslim guy who wished they had nuclear weapons): https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/e7jlwx/wonder_woman_84_entire_movie_synopsis/ It seems like the only thing that got cut were the scenes where she forcibly disarmed the brown people and dismantled a *single* nuke in-flight. So I guess in this world ICBMs work like they do in Ant-Man, flying on super-depressed trajectories about as fast as an airliner.
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Dec 27, 2020 00:39
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So Wonder Woman contribution to WW2 was liberating the camps? That's what the pictures at her home showed.
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https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/1342991922856558592?s=19
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Dec 27, 2020 01:35
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Hans please.  Now explain why you used the music from Sunshine for Diana's first flight.
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Dec 27, 2020 01:38
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Space Fish posted:Already deleted and only alluded to... what was said? 
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Dec 27, 2020 01:44
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Lol does she just like every movie or something?
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Dec 27, 2020 02:09
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sportsgenius86 posted:Lol does she just like every movie or something? folks, movies are fun!
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Dec 27, 2020 02:14
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Remember way back in the day that xmen released the danger room scene where Wolverine takes down the Sentinel and we were all excited and when Colossus threw him he was moving like 3 feet a second and you could see the wire operators struggling in the background? That's what the white house fight scene looked like.
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Dec 27, 2020 02:20
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sportsgenius86 posted:Lol does she just like every movie or something? Here's a "Super Reviewer" from Rotten Tomatoes. See if you can spot the  in the first line:"It's a stronger film than its predecessor and compared to recent superhero films it's one of the more engaging (which unfortunately isn't saying much). What works are Kristen Wiig's performance and character development (the real highlight of the film), the combination of setting and aesthetics (1980s DC was done well and looked good), and an impressive final battle. What doesn't work are the elements that plague all superhero films: thin writing, cliches, an uneven tone, and abundant cheesiness (it's hard to watch without rolling your eyes at least twice). What's fascinating is that the least interesting part of the film is the heroine - the titular character; Wiig's more grisly, grounded, cynical character, however, makes the film worth experiencing."
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Dec 27, 2020 02:28
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gotta respect hans zimmer's grift
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Dec 27, 2020 02:32
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Alexander Hamilton posted:I can’t get over that this movie was in the can for a year and they had Hans loving Zimmer on the payroll and they used a temp track from a 12 year old movie for the climax. This happens a sometimes. You remember spider-man2 when they used Hellraiser Hellbound’s theme? That caused issues with Elfman and he and Raimi fell out after. Sometimes filmmakers fall in love with the temp tracks and find a way to do similar or just use it with permission.
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Lmfao I didn’t even see the tweet above.
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Okay so I’m watching this movie now and from what I understand Diana is completely aware that her boyfriend is in somebody else’s body but sleeps with him anyways.
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Dec 27, 2020 02:42
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Pirate Jet posted:Okay so I’m watching this movie now and from what I understand Diana is completely aware that her boyfriend is in somebody else’s body but sleeps with him anyways.
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Dec 27, 2020 03:14
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Presumably lots of the billions of wishes made in the finale were for dead loved ones to return... did all of those loved ones inhabit the bodies of already existing people?
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Baronash posted:I’m convinced this scene was reshot or a remnant of an earlier draft. Diana pleads with Barbara to give up her powers willingly. When she refuses, Diana allows the electrical cables to I’m more annoyed that they wrote her out at all. What the hell is with Hollywood writers and writing villains out of franchises entirely every single time? Half the fun of superheroes is that there’s like fifty villains running around at any given time that can be pulled from and expanded on at any moment. Just let Barbara slink off and have to deal with the consequences of her wishes and maybe bring her back later to be on the Legion of Doom or something idk. How is WB so bad at this!? Also making Trump metaphor Maxwell Lord relatable by having him do everything for his son is some real lib brained poo poo. Does anybody here really believe that Trump would give up his infinite power to save Don Jr? Really!?
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Hobo Clown posted:Presumably lots of the billions of wishes made in the finale were for dead loved ones to return... did all of those loved ones inhabit the bodies of already existing people? Also I promise that at least 20% of the population refused to withdraw their wish. Society is hosed and nothing will ever be normal again. Also very annoyed that Maxwell didn’t go all arc of the covenant and turn into red sludge when all the wishes were renounced. The movie set that up perfectly and just refused to follow through with it. Shameful.
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Augus posted:gotta respect hans zimmer's grift Rumor is he does very little of writing of his music. Mostly just has his interns do it, and then claims it’s his own. Has been doing that for a long rear end time.
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Dec 27, 2020 03:33
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I thought more men hated The Last Jedi? This isn’t even correct about the stupid internet discourse it’s referencing!
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readingatwork posted:Also I promise that at least 20% of the population refused to withdraw their wish. Society is hosed and nothing will ever be normal again. I retract my wish, I want daddy to hit mommy again. This movie really would have worked better if it was a small story. The larger scope really makes it fall in on itself.
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oneforthevine posted:I thought more men hated The Last Jedi? This isn’t even correct about the stupid internet discourse it’s referencing! I like her takes on the podcast rocket about a great many things. But her claiming stuff like this and that Cyberpunk is the greatest story game since Mass Effect is... eye rolls. LionArcher fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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readingatwork posted:Also making Trump metaphor Maxwell Lord relatable by having him do everything for his son is some real lib brained poo poo. Does anybody here really believe that Trump would give up his infinite power to save Don Jr? Really!? Casting a Chilean-American actor as the Trump analogue is also... a choice.
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As Nero Danced posted:I retract my wish, I want daddy to hit mommy again. Again, Max Lord's actual ability is mind control. That would have been a much better plot. "Diana vs. the World," with Lord using the Star Wars MacGuffin like Cerebro to take over whomever he wanted. Getting Reagan to send the Army after Diana (or something like that), and ultimately realizing he's endangered his son, and Diana promises to fix everything if 1) he stops mind controlling everyone, and 2) wipes everyone's minds of memories of her so she can disappear into history again.
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