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Yeah a few years ago a woman got killed by coyotes in Nova Scotia iirc
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dingos are literally just wolves, keep that in mind. I mean they are just wolves in so far as any feral/wild dog population is, the taxonomic history is messy but they are considered dogs.
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Part of why the Azaria Chamberlain case went so poorly is the dingos had managed to take off her jacket, iirc, without overly damaging it, so the cops thought a human must have been involved. However, because 'everyone knows a dingo couldn't take off a baby's jacket, what are you, stupid?', nobody actually bothered running behavioral tests with captive dingos and wrapped up food to see if, in fact, a dingo could take off a baby's jacket, until much later. Turns out dingos are perfectly capable of taking off a baby's jacket! It's fairly unsettling! EDIT: But yeah there's nothing inherently special about humans, the reasons human infants don't tend to get absolutely hosed up by wildlife isn't because wildlife instinctively knows not to touch, but that humans usually don't leave infants in a position to have that happen. A dingo doesn't know there's reasons why it shouldn't take a baby. It's just hunting. It's doing what animals do. You can't emotionally reason with a wild animal, they don't understand you. PetraCore has a new favorite as of 16:58 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah a few years ago a woman got killed by coyotes in Nova Scotia iirc It was an up and coming folk singer. It’s a weird story that may have come up already in this thread. The fact that it was considered so unusual speaks to how rare coyote attacks are. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Mitchell
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Dec 23, 2020 18:26
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Wolves don't often attack people either, do they? But it's understood that they *could*.
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Dec 23, 2020 18:56
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They don't do it often, it's very rare, but they do. Historically they did actually kill people a fair amount. The danger is oversold but yes, they'll opportunistically kill and eat humans.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:02
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I thought Coyotes were smaller? More like fox sized? Dingos always seemed like just "Labrador" sized?
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Dec 23, 2020 19:08
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Josef bugman posted:I thought Coyotes were smaller? More like fox sized? Dingos always seemed like just "Labrador" sized? They're about the same size 20-40ish pounds.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:10
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Groovelord Neato posted:They're about the same size 20-40ish pounds. Apparently there are two slightly different variants; the Eastern coyote is mostly a coyote/wolf hybrid that is in the 45 - 55 lb range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_coyote
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Dec 23, 2020 19:19
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Pick posted:They don't do it often, it's very rare, but they do. Historically they did actually kill people a fair amount. The danger is oversold but yes, they'll opportunistically kill and eat humans. Depends on how desperate they are too, I'd imagine. A relatively well-fed wolf probably wouldn't risk it but a starving might go for it.
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PetraCore posted:Oh yeah they accused the family of sacrificing babies to Satan just because they were Seventh-Day Adventists. This is not in any way an exaggeration, it's the motive the police came up with since there wasn't an actual motive because they were actually a totally normal family with a somewhat unusual and insular religion who very much loved their daughter. So basically, the demonization of this mother was just more '80s Satanic Panic bullshit. I guess it wasn't just confined to the United States, but had infected the entire Anglosphere (and beyond?) I remember during the Amanda Knox case (in 2007!) the prosecutor brought up the idea of a "Satanic sex game" as a motive, and knew right then and there that the whole case against her was bullshit.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:That Bakersfield 3 story was nuts. I feel bad for Baylee. How on earth did she get sucked so deep into such an awful situation so quickly? Loomer posted:And suddenly many things about Paris Hilton make sense.
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it really sucks that she was basically a punchline (dingoes ate my baby) for a very long time
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Relatedly I really hope Britney Spears can get her independence back
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Rural Australian cops exist pretty much solely to murder Aboriginal people, keep in mind. Not surprising they're aggressively useless at everything else. There was an Australian dude in the early 80s who beat the Australian family court legal system by just systematically shooting and bombing the house/car/workplace of judges and attorneys that found/worked against him. It was super obvious he was doing it, but since they didn't catch him in the act, he wouldn't confess, and they apparently had no real forensic capability, they couldn't do anything about it. You'd think a police force so used to just disappearing people would disappear a dude who's an obvious threat to their authority, but nope, hes white, we'll just get bombed like 6 times then give in and he gets custody of his daughter. He went to jail in 2015 cause he cut his finger bombing his ex-wife's church in '85 and DNA finally caught up with him.
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nishi koichi posted:it really sucks that she was basically a punchline (dingoes ate my baby) for a very long time I think it was even on Rugrats at some point.
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christmas boots posted:Depends on how desperate they are too, I'd imagine. A relatively well-fed wolf probably wouldn't risk it but a starving might go for it. Desperation is a huge factor in many cases but an infant or an isolated, lame individual is going to set off all the "easy prey" alarms in a predators head. Telsa Cola has a new favorite as of 00:26 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Fun fact: in Autopsy 8 (the 8th Autopsy special on HBO), a former friend of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka described Paul as "Donald Trump". This aired in 2002. lol.
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Telsa Cola posted:an isolated, lame individual Please stop describing me, I don't want the wolves to get ideas
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IIRC most predators haven't had the update to recognise bipedalism yet, so by being tall humans end up looking really huge to them. Try to avoid looking short near wolves.
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The Lone Badger posted:IIRC most predators haven't had the update to recognise bipedalism yet, so by being tall humans end up looking really huge to them. Try to avoid looking short near wolves. Isn't that the reason this tactic doesn't work against bears? Because they often stand up, too and can map our limb positions to theirs? I believe there was research recently that demonstrated cats also know our arms = front paws and our legs = hind paws.
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Man, animals are stupid. Bet they don't even know what math is either.
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The Lone Badger posted:IIRC most predators haven't had the update to recognise bipedalism yet, so by being tall humans end up looking really huge to them. Try to avoid looking short near wolves. Now I have this image of wolves that keep forgetting to leave themselves plugged in overnight.
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Never mind, I have started watching a bit of Dark Crimes. That is definitely one of the scariest shows I've ever seen. My advice would be to not get murdered in southern Africa.
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Pick posted:Never mind, I have started watching a bit of Dark Crimes. That is definitely one of the scariest shows I've ever seen. My advice would be to not get murdered in southern Africa. As annoying as I find my favorite murder (once they got big, anyway), the advice of "stay sexy, don't get murdered" remains pro-tier
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"The father reported his son missing. The same day, the dead body of a boy matching his description was found mutilated but recognizable. Instead of notice or check if anyone had been reported missing, the police threw it into a ditch so they didn't have to deal with it. About 4 years later, when a white girl was finally killed, the police finally arrested the guy who'd been spotted where another boy had been raped and murdered earlier, covered in blood, who they'd allowed to point out where the boy's effects had been scattered before shrugging him off. By the time they threw all the skeletons in a big pile to go 'wow, what a bunch of skeletons' they realized he had probably killed like 30 kids or something. He also revealed he'd brutally murdered an adult woman in his youth whose demise was basically ignored."
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The Lone Badger posted:IIRC most predators haven't had the update to recognise bipedalism yet, so by being tall humans end up looking really huge to them. Try to avoid looking short near wolves. Pope Hilarius II posted:Isn't that the reason this tactic doesn't work against bears? Because they often stand up, too and can map our limb positions to theirs? This is really interesting, and something I never really thought about before. Can you tell me where I could read more about this?
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GWBBQ posted:Before they even mentioned the possibility of her working with police, my gut instinct was that she was a CI or otherwise working with law enforcement. I really hope for her sake that she's under some kind of official protection. Just based on other stories about how police treat CIs and what we know about the Bakersfield PD, I’m not optimistic.
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ZoeDomingo posted:This is really interesting, and something I never really thought about before. Can you tell me where I could read more about this? Here's the link from ScienceMag
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Seemingly unapologetic murderer of Andre "Angel" Menendez, Michael Alig died of an overdose on christmas. Here's one of the few articles that I have read that treats him like remorseless murderer instead of a starlet who accidentally flashed their panties. https://www.villagevoice.com/2014/0...-it-for-months/
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Sarcopenia posted:Seemingly unapologetic murderer of Andre "Angel" Menendez, Michael Alig died of an overdose on christmas. Why did so many folks treat this person as a minor celebrity? Michael Alig I mean. He seems like a loving monster.
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Josef bugman posted:Why did so many folks treat this person as a minor celebrity? Michael Alig I mean. It reminds me of how every Sid Vicious Doc I've seen is like 80% talking about what a delicate cherry blossom he was behind the punk facadeand people blaming Nancy Spungen for getting physically abused and ultimately murdered by him. People will excuse a lot of things if the personality is big enough and if they contributed to whatever nostalgia they are obsessed with.
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He was obnoxious and had the same kind of brokebrained fans GG Allen fostered. Conservative America loves bad people propped up as "representative" of lifestyles they hate, and club culture was inextricably entwined with LGBTQ culture of the era.
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Pope Hilarius II posted:Here's the link from ScienceMag Thank you!!
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Hi folks, I'm back with one more mystery to close out the year. The Sloot Digital Coding System Jan Sloot was a television repairman who spent the bulk of his time working on a device he theorized could hold entire movies in ridiculously small file sizes - think a feature film in 8KB. This sounds a bit nutty, but even more amazing are the names he got to sign on to funding his work. Major Dutch investors helped spread news of his work across the globe, accruing millions of dollars in backing. Then, a few days before a deal was made to have the system's source code transferred and mass-produced...Jan Sloot died of a sudden heart attack at home. There was an intense rush to find his work so not all would be lost. I'll leave it to the video to explain how this ends.
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The Golden Gael posted:Hi folks, I'm back with one more mystery to close out the year. The Sloot Digital Coding System
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Josef bugman posted:Why did so many folks treat this person as a minor celebrity? Michael Alig I mean.
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:In 2017 he was booked to do a Halloween party at the Echoplex and enough of the LA queer scene was like "Nah gently caress that guy" that they dropped his rear end like a hot potato soaked in piss
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Josef bugman posted:Why did so many folks treat this person as a minor celebrity? Michael Alig I mean. I think you’ll find he was a middle-class white man with a famous partner who “told it like it is” (was constantly crass and hurtful) and who “kept it real” (behaved rudely and self-indulgently). Take out Keith Haring and you’ve got slender gay Donald Trump.
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Sarcopenia posted:He was literally already (in)famous for shock and outrage. His whole brand was trying to be as edgy, cruel and out there as possible so it just kind of made the mythos around him larger. Like, if you watch the documentaries on him an awful lot of the people around him speak the exact same way as Alig about the whole ordeal. Angel was annoying and didn't belong there anyway, Michael was a genius who just maybe did too many drugs and the biggest downside is always that the murder put a stop to Alig's parties and not the fact that a man was brutally killed by an entitled idiot. There are still a ton of people who refuse to admit that John Lennon was a serial abuser.
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