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Technically correct and utterly unhelpful. Thank you.
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Outrail posted:Technically correct and utterly unhelpful. The Goon Ideal
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A man is flying in a hot air balloon and realizes he is lost. He spots a man down below and lowers the balloon to shout: “Excuse me, can you help me? I promised my friend I would meet him half an hour ago, but I don’t know where I am.” The man below says: “Yes. You are in a hot air balloon, hovering approximately 30 feet above this field. You are between 40 and 42 degrees N. latitude, and between 58 and 60 degrees W. longitude.” “You must be an engineer” says the balloonist. “I am” replies the man. “How did you know.” “Well” says the balloonist, “everything you have told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and the fact is I am still lost.” The man below says “You must be a manager.” “I am” replies the balloonist, “but how did you know?” “Well”, says the man, “you don’t know where you are, or where you are going. You have made a promise which you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problems. The fact is you are in the exact same position you were in before we met, but now it is somehow my fault.”
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Dec 28, 2020 09:04
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I’m deadly curious why they decided to make it so that each test tube either has a whole lot, a lot, or almost none.
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Dec 28, 2020 10:11
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It would make sense as “this emotion involves an excess or dearth of this chemical, compared to the baseline state”, but that’s broken by the few tubes that are like five‐sevenths full. The levels for endorphins could be explained as needing to create contrast with euphoria, which is characterised by an overwhelming level of endorphins, and similar works for melatonin and depression and apathy. Serotonin and prolactine [sic], though, only appear at that five‐sevenths level, and that’s just inexplicable.
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Dec 28, 2020 10:25
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Also autism is an emotion!
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Dec 28, 2020 10:27
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Pretty sure I've seen this before
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Dec 28, 2020 10:32
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Wanna make jungle juice out of alla them test tubes and chug it.
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Dec 28, 2020 11:21
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If you insist...
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Dec 28, 2020 11:43
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Platystemon posted:It would make sense as “this emotion involves an excess or dearth of this chemical, compared to the baseline state”, but that’s broken by the few tubes that are like five‐sevenths full. reduced, elevated and extremely elevated from the baseline. makes sense to me.
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Dec 28, 2020 11:44
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steinrokkan posted:reduced, elevated and extremely elevated from the baseline. makes sense to me. A baseline that is never even hinted at. A plain reading of the chart is that the baseline is a complete lack of any of those hormones, and what is displayed is purely additive.
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Dec 28, 2020 14:20
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Baseline (normal) reads as half full (or half empty, depending on dopamine levels). That would give you low levels, slightly elevated and elevated.
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Dec 28, 2020 14:31
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Elysiume posted:If you insist... I want to mix and match in order to feel emotions that no human has ever experienced.
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Dec 28, 2020 14:41
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Carbon dioxide posted:A man is flying in a hot air balloon and realizes he is lost. He spots a man down below and lowers the balloon to shout: “Excuse me, can you help me? I promised my friend I would meet him half an hour ago, but I don’t know where I am.” The manager is a dumbass but the engineer agreed to help him but couldn't, and smugly wasted his time with petty point scoring instead. Engineer is a dick.
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Dec 28, 2020 14:54
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Pasco posted:A baseline that is never even hinted at. A plain reading is that the chart only lists deviations from the normal and doesn't bother showing you twenty identical half-full test tubes for each state.
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Dec 28, 2020 15:06
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Outrail posted:The manager is a dumbass but the engineer agreed to help him but couldn't, and smugly wasted his time with petty point scoring instead. Engineer is a dick. It's exactly the information the manager would need to radio in a pick-up in the pre cell phone era. The name of the back country farm you're plopped in would be comparibly useless.
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Dec 28, 2020 15:17
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ikanreed posted:It's exactly the information the manager would need to radio in a pick-up in the pre cell phone era. The area described is more than a hundred miles on each side
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Dec 28, 2020 15:26
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ikanreed posted:It's exactly the information the manager would need to radio in a pick-up in the pre cell phone era. A variance of 2 degree either way is enough area to be functionally useless. It might also be safe to assume the manager, being a manager with little in the way of useful skills or experience, has gone flying off without a radio. They both dumb, but the engineer is also an rear end in a top hat.
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Dec 28, 2020 15:26
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ikanreed posted:It's exactly the information the manager would need to radio in a pick-up in the pre cell phone era. The engineer gave the position with a margin of two degrees of lat long, so that’s like 200sh? km of slack. Totally useless even in the pick up scenario
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Dec 28, 2020 15:27
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ikanreed posted:It's exactly the information the manager would need to radio in a pick-up in the pre cell phone era. usgs.gov posted:At 38 degrees North latitude: The engineer's information gives you a search area of 15 thousand square miles. This is not useful information.
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Dec 28, 2020 15:28
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jesus we were all within a minute of each other, goon pedantry never disappoints
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Dec 28, 2020 15:28
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Tree Goat posted:jesus we were all within a minute of each other, goon pedantry never disappoints Actually, Piell and Ratos posts have more than a minute between them.
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Dec 28, 2020 15:34
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ikanreed posted:It's exactly the information the manager would need to radio in a pick-up in the pre cell phone era.
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Outrail posted:Actually, Piell and Ratos posts have more than a minute between them. 
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Dec 28, 2020 15:39
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But the definition of the problem is you're within 120 minutes
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The actual moral is that they're both dumb idiots, unlike me, a cool and intelligent person who would've taken public transportation to meet my friend 
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Dec 28, 2020 18:20
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Um, you're all aware that nothing in that story actually happened, right? You could just retell it with more precise coordinates.
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Dec 28, 2020 19:50
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Buttchocks posted:Um, you're all aware that nothing in that story actually happened, right? You could just retell it with more precise coordinates. Precise coordinates would actually be useful.
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Dec 28, 2020 20:07
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Outrail posted:Precise coordinates would actually be useful. They probably wouldn't be to someone that managed to get lost in an air-balloon. Its like if someone stops you on a street corner and tells you they're lost, and all you do is point to the street signs and walk away. Usually directions like "two blocks that way, then take a left until you see the blue sign" are what the lost and confused are looking for. Their inability to use precise methods is what caused their problem in the first place.
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Dec 28, 2020 20:16
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Buttchocks posted:Um, you're all aware that nothing in that story actually happened, right? You could just retell it with more precise coordinates. But multi-page arguments over fictional jokes is longstanding SA tradition!
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Dec 28, 2020 20:17
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41°N 59°W is a couple hundred miles off the coast of Nova Scotia (and ±1 degree latitude or longitude doesn't make a meaningful difference there), so there's not going to be a local farm or village. "Field" is a curious descriptor for the ocean's surface, though I have heard "field of billows" used in a poetical sense.
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:41°N 59°W is a couple hundred miles off the coast of Nova Scotia (and ±1 degree latitude or longitude doesn't make a meaningful difference there), so there's not going to be a local farm or village. "Field" is a curious descriptor for the ocean's surface, though I have heard "field of billows" used in a poetical sense. Ships plough the ocean waves. If it can be ploughed, its a field. Or your mum.
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Dec 28, 2020 20:30
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SiKboy posted:Ships plough the ocean waves. If it can be ploughed, its a field. Or your mum. If you can grow fungus in it, it's a field. Or your mum.
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Count Roland posted:They probably wouldn't be to someone that managed to get lost in an air-balloon. we agree here that the story is about gricean maxims; the engineer is simply unable to follow those maxims and so is, in a real sense, a poor and inappropriate communicator. the manager is perhaps just unlucky or unskilled, and deserves our pity, not our ire. furthermore if a hot air balloon was on a treadmill that was rolling forward,
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Carthag Tuek posted:Into that yawning ancestral crypt, I fervibly stepped downwards. Unknown darkness liquibly reached and grabbed at my feet, and I felt my skin pallify. Unfathomable tepor rigified my limbs; I knew that my future was terrid. Outrail posted:What's the word for knowing something's wrong but also feeling like it should be right but it isn't. It's correct English it's just stylistically awkward because it uses a bunch of neologisms.
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Locations that have elements named after them:
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Failing to acknowledge gold is named after my posting
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ikanreed posted:Failing to acknowledge gold is named after my posting Au snap
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Maigius posted:Locations that have elements named after them: That mine in Ytterby is really impressive, eight elements discovered in one place. Golbez has a new favorite as of 03:54 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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