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CommonShore posted:He has an old potato laptop that can barely run w10. He's 4h away from me so I can't get exact specs on it. I'll take a look on ebay - thanks! Check out my linked ebay posting, it's got an hour left and it might be worth a look.
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Here goes nothing. These are my specs according to, well, Speccy. Purchased in March 2017: CPU: Intel Core i5 6600 @3.30 Ghz (Skylake 14nm Technology) RAM: 16,0 Gb Dual Channel Unknown @ 1066 Mhz Motherboard: MSI Z170A Sli (MS-7998) Graphics: 4095MB Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 (ASUSteK) I am running Window 7 Ultimate and, yes, I am aware that I will need to upgrade that at some point. Everything else is just external storage etc. I've always been a Geforce man, so I was looking at the RTX 3060 Ti as it is a very good value card. The only thing that I don't like about it is only 8MB of memory. Then I thought about going very high end and getting a Radeon RX 6800 XT, but that has poor reviews. It was at this point I started to think about bottlenecking issues and I realise that I needed outside help. As you can see, my approach is to upgrade rarely but in large leaps. Again, this is all academic for the moment as everything is sold out everywhere except for scalpers on eBay, but this is based on the MSRP of the cards that I mentioned.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:That card is ridiculously large at 335mm if Newegg is right on size. That’s bigger than almost all of the 3080 cards. Yeah I was surprised by the size too. I can only find reviews for the 3080 SUPRIM X, but they're all good and I'm hoping it translates to the 3070. I don't hoard data so I'll only have 1 SSD and 1HDD in the end. Removing some of the hard drive cages should not be an issue. Even more since I think most newer SSDs go directly on the motherboard now? Pilfered Pallbearers posted:What do you need from the motherboard? Ports? WiFi? Bluetooth? Audio? Anything else? I only know I don't need WiFi. The only peripherals I have connected right now are a headset, mouse, keyboard, monitor, and an Xbox elite controller. I occasionally plug in an external hard drive. Don't know if this answers the question?
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I have a real head-scratcher here. I have a motherboard with only USB available, but I want to use this Wifi 6E card: https://www.amazon.com/AX210-Expands-Bluetooth-Tri-Band-Windows10/dp/B08MJLPZPL/ Is there any adapter or set of adapters that could turn this M.2 "A+E Key" card into USB? As I understand it the A+E is used to carry both PCI lanes (for the Wifi) and USB (for the bluetooth and maybe power?). If it simplifies things, I can live without the Bluetooth functionality. I just wanna get that 6ghz wifi and that card is currently the only way.
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orange juche posted:Check out my linked ebay posting, it's got an hour left and it might be worth a look. Oops! I started browsing antique tools and missed your reply/edit. It looks as if that went a bit beyond what I was looking to spend: at least once shipping was included it would have been over CA$500. Thank you though! I think ebay is going to be my winner here.
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CommonShore posted:Oops! I started browsing antique tools and missed your reply/edit. It looks as if that went a bit beyond what I was looking to spend: at least once shipping was included it would have been over CA$500. Thank you though! I think ebay is going to be my winner here. Oh yeah that's a sizeable amount more than I thought. That said in general anything that's a desktop processor is going to be much faster than a laptop/mobile processor, due to having more thermal headroom and generally more cores to work with. Any intel processor with T or U in its name is a low power/mobile chip.
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orange juche posted:Oh yeah that's a sizeable amount more than I thought. That said in general anything that's a desktop processor is going to be much faster than a laptop/mobile processor, due to having more thermal headroom and generally more cores to work with. Any intel processor with T or U in its name is a low power/mobile chip. Cool - that's good information about the T/U stuff. That's really why I'm looking to buy him a desktop rather than a new laptop, as he doesn't use any mobile functions anyway, so I might as well get him more bang for his buck.
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I'm in the US and mostly play WoW, Paradox, and Total War games at 1440p. My current desktop is 6ish years old and I'm looking to do a total rebuild. Can I get away with Micro ATX with these components or do I need the full-size? Are there any cheaper GPUs that are a nice upgrade over a GTX 970? I was looking at some newer $200-300 GPUs (RX 590 and 5500 XT mostly) and they seemed like barely an upgrade. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.95 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.99 @ B&H) Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($162.99 @ Best Buy) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($599.98 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Corsair)
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Gaming What's your budget? $1000-$1200 If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate 1080p, 144hz PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Best Buy) Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.00 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Addlink S70 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: GTX 1660 SUPER SC ULTRA ($250 already purchased) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Best Buy) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Best Buy) Total: $1044.96 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-28 18:56 EST-0500 First time building a PC (I'll have help from a friend), and I'm sure I bungled something up. The goal is to have a computer that has an upgrade path for when Total Warhammer 3 comes out. Also any suggestions on a good 1080 p monitor under $300?
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sean10mm posted:Here's my recent build around a RTX 3070 with a lot of notes about alternate parts options. The Ryzen 5000 series CPUs seem to be impossible to find right now. Should I go for an Intel I9 series? Or since I'm mostly gaming would this be a waste of cash and I'd be better served going for a Ryzen 3000/Intel I7 cpu? My only fear is that I want to keep this rig for a few years, and I fear that an older cpu might be a bottleneck for a new GPU in 3 years. edit: assume that I know next to nothing about cpus and this might all be gibberish... felat fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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JustJeff88 posted:Here goes nothing. These are my specs according to, well, Speccy. Purchased in March 2017: There is always something better around the corner. In about a year AMD will likely release zen 3+ with some incremental improvements. If a 5600xt is released, the price might drop a 5600x. In early 2021 more skus like non X zen 3 are expected, . Intel 12th gen for desktop is expected in later 2021 probably a new socket, probably will support pcie 4. 3070ti and 3080ti with more vram are expected to be announced in Feb. A 3060 ti is a noticeable improvement from the 1070 for most games, can do 144+fps in a lot of games where the 1070 can't. You could upgrade the gpus without doing anything else. And for 1080p, 8gb is probably fine, you can run everything maxed out for a while. If you are getting a 4k or 1440p monitor the 3060 ti is still a good option, but you won't be able to run everyone on max settings, and there are some games now where you need to turn settings down to stay under 8gb. A lot of games would need a 3080 to run on 120+ fps with maxed settings. The i5 6600 single threaded performance is pretty good, only about 35% slower than the newest intel and 50% slower than the newest AMD cpus for single thread performance. Most games are limited by single thread performance, and effectively not cpu limited. But it is only 4 threads, some newer games would be noticeably faster on an 8 thread cpu, especially if you get a high framerate monitor.
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lampey posted:There is always something better around the corner. In about a year AMD will likely release zen 3+ with some incremental improvements. If a 5600xt is released, the price might drop a 5600x. In early 2021 more skus like non X zen 3 are expected, . Intel 12th gen for desktop is expected in later 2021 probably a new socket, probably will support pcie 4. 3070ti and 3080ti with more vram are expected to be announced in Feb. I forgot to mention that this is a US-based system. A lot of this is technically beyond me, but I appreciate the feedback. I actually do have a 144 monitor (that runs at a modest 1920x1080), but if I am being honest I don't really notice much of a difference between 144 and 60. I must have slow eyes. What made me realise that it's been over 3.5 years was that some very modern games such as Cyberpunk and RDR2 were running somewhat choppily on medium settings. I do not plan to upgrade my monitor in the near future, but I think that my next monitor will be one of those curved ones if I can find one with built-in speakers like my current screen. I like the idea of waiting a bit and getting a version of the 3060 with more memory if I don't need to upgrade my CPU. Just for the sake of argument, is the 6800 1) Any good? (online reviews were really disappointing) and B) Is it too much card for my chip? I have no problem paying an extra $200 for the extra power, but I don't want to waste it on a lovely card or have my aging processor slow it down.
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The 6800 does have RT, but it doesn’t work with games that use the proprietary NVidia version.
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yikes! posted:I'm in the US and mostly play WoW, Paradox, and Total War games at 1440p. My current desktop is 6ish years old and I'm looking to do a total rebuild. Can I get away with Micro ATX with these components or do I need the full-size? Are there any cheaper GPUs that are a nice upgrade over a GTX 970? I was looking at some newer $200-300 GPUs (RX 590 and 5500 XT mostly) and they seemed like barely an upgrade. The parts market is all kinds of weird right now, that price for the (old) 5700 XT is very wrong. For your use case, an RTX 3060Ti at ~$400 would be excellent value. The 3700X is a good processor but the 5600x is cheaper at msrp and better in every way. It's worth playing the waiting/stock hunting game to get the best value for your money, unless you need a PC right the gently caress now. An 850W PSU is also overkill, 600 or 650W should be more than enough for a 5600x and 3060Ti. I would take those savings and get a better featured b550 mobo, up your storage to a 1tb SSD (the WS sn550 is the standard rec), and get a better CPU cooler in the ~$50 range (Noctua nh-u12s, scythe fuma 2, mugen 5 etc). Nothing wrong with going mATX.
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felat posted:I managed to get my hands on a 3070 on newegg so I'm starting my PC build earlier, and could really use some help as I'm no good at picking parts... (posting a link to the GPU I got as it's on the heftier side and might influence the rest https://www.newegg.ca/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-rtx-3070-suprim-x-8g/p/N82E16814137620?Item=N82E16814137620 ) So this is what I came up loosely following sean10mm's guide (thanks!) PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($429.99 @ Newegg Canada) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.37 @ Vuugo) Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste ($12.45 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($164.99 @ Canada Computers) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB SUPRIM X Video Card Case: Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.78 @ iSanek) Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada) Total: $1285.55 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-28 20:52 EST-0500 I already have the GPU ordered, and I already have the case on my current build. Does this seem good to go? The biggest guess was the Mobo as when I start reading the specs and stuff my eyes glaze over and I can't understand much. My case has two 3.0 usb ports (not the small usb-c, but regular usb written "3.0" underneath). Do I need a special mobo for this? edit: posted wrong links first time
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felat posted:The biggest guess was the Mobo as when I start reading the specs and stuff my eyes glaze over and I can't understand much. My case has two 3.0 usb ports (not the small usb-c, but regular usb written "3.0" underneath). Do I need a special mobo for this? I just checked the manual for your board and it has the requisite connections for your case's front usb.
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Are Ryzen 3 processors now just impossible to get? I was thinking of a 3200g for a friend's super cheap tower to replace her imac but I can't find them in stock anywhere, and definitely not for $99.
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Butterfly Valley posted:I just checked the manual for your board and it has the requisite connections for your case's front usb. Thank you!
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change my name posted:Are Ryzen 3 processors now just impossible to get? I was thinking of a 3200g for a friend's super cheap tower to replace her imac but I can't find them in stock anywhere, and definitely not for $99. Pretty much. If it's just a home computer a used Dell is usually the cheapest / easiest way to go.
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Some Goon posted:Pretty much. If it's just a home computer a used Dell is usually the cheapest / easiest way to go. Apparently the comparable i3 is still in stock everywhere for $115 so I'll go with that. I don't mind building a little sub $500 box for her, I assume it'll last way longer than a used optiplex
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change my name posted:Apparently the comparable i3 is still in stock everywhere for $115 so I'll go with that. I don't mind building a little sub $500 box for her, I assume it'll last way longer than a used optiplex It's a fine choice, just make sure it's not an -F model if you're planning on going with the integrated graphics, since the -F models don't have them.
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denereal visease posted:Are they all actually spinning at 100%? Have/can you check using HWInfo64? I just checked, all the fans are running at 100% when they should, so the fans are operating properly. I did another stress test and it was only hitting 83° as a max, so it is a lot better then it was before the Noctua fans. That said, it is odd, but that seems within parameters, and I'm wondering if I just got a hot chip. I am hoping to get a 5900X sometime in the next month, as I have someone who wants my 5800X for their eventual build.
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how long is a bios "flashback" supposed to run? im doing it on my asus b550m and the little green light has been on for like, an hour
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tinaun posted:how long is a bios "flashback" supposed to run? im doing it on my asus b550m and the little green light has been on for like, an hour Not that long. Try a different flash drive. Is it blinking?
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tinaun posted:no, just solid green Yeah, try a different flash drive. For some reason older, smaller drives tend to work better.
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Looking to build my first gaming PC, as I'm tired of barely being able to get even old games to run on my crappy old laptop (it runs the current WoW expansion at 20 FPS max, for reference). What country are you in? US What are you using the system for? Gaming, Web & Office. What's your budget? $800-$1200 If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? I'm looking for something mid-range performance-wise - I don't need the highest end/bleeding-edge graphics. I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to hardware, but here's what I came up with. Does this build match my goals? Are there ways for me to save any $ without compromising too much performance/reliability? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Best Buy) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($79.99 @ Best Buy) Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($489.99 @ Adorama) Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CXF 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1126.92 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-28 23:38 EST-0500
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Since these are not PWM https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-icue-sp120-rgb-pro-120mm-system-cabinet-fan-kit-with-rgb-lighting-black-white/6356250.p?skuId=6356250, how is the speed controlled? It has the hub which connects via USB to the mobo, can you not set a fan curve in iCUE?
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Quarterroys posted:Looking to build my first gaming PC, as I'm tired of barely being able to get even old games to run on my crappy old laptop (it runs the current WoW expansion at 20 FPS max, for reference). Never cheap out on PSU. There are really no good psus that have RGB in existence. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Best Buy) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($79.99 @ Best Buy) Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($489.99 @ Adorama) Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.97 @ Newegg) Total: $1141.90 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-29 01:01 EST-0500 Go with the EVGA Supernova GA 650, 10 year warranty, 80+ Gold rated. EVGA has high quality power supplies along with Seasonic and Superflower. The 20 dollar increase over the Corsair PSU gets you a quiet, high efficiency power supply that has higher quality components that will last long enough for you to carry it over to your next PC build. orange juche fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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whats the top dog non-conductive thermal paste for general use that isnt 3x more expensive for a tenth of a percent lower temp? Something I can leave on a pc for 3 years without too much fear of severe degradation Last time I bought gelid was the hot(cold) stuff and I just used my last tube.
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Fauxtool posted:whats the top dog non-conductive thermal paste for general use that isnt 3x more expensive for a tenth of a percent lower temp? Something I can leave on a pc for 3 years without too much fear of severe degradation Cryonaut https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU Wins in many many benchmarks and it's 
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$10 for 1 gram, im gonna go with the 11 gram tube for $30
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Fauxtool posted:$10 for 1 gram, im gonna go with the 11 gram tube for $30 How many grams of thermal paste do you think you will have a use for?
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Fauxtool posted:$10 for 1 gram, im gonna go with the 11 gram tube for $30 You can get 7.8 grams for $14.28, better deal and OutletPC is a seller I can vouch for: https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Aeronaut-Performance-Grease/dp/B00ZJS78VW
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orange juche posted:Never cheap out on PSU. There are really no good psus that have RGB in existence. Awesome. Thank you! No idea what I'm doing, so this advice is super helpful.
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PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($63.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Lenovo) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($489.99 @ Adorama) Case: Corsair 275Q ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.97 @ Newegg) Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($446.99 @ Adorama) Total: $1636.90 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-29 08:37 EST-0500 This is what I'm thinking for a reasonable game performance at 1440, maybe with some settings turned down. I already have the monitor which I've been using for a while for the extra resolution and it is quite nice so I don't want to change that out.
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Samadhi posted:I just checked, all the fans are running at 100% when they should, so the fans are operating properly. I did another stress test and it was only hitting 83° as a max, so it is a lot better then it was before the Noctua fans. That said, it is odd, but that seems within parameters, and I'm wondering if I just got a hot chip. I am hoping to get a 5900X sometime in the next month, as I have someone who wants my 5800X for their eventual build.
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tinaun posted:no, just solid green To be more specific than the other post, solid green indicates a failure. The light should blink for about 5 minutes and then turn off to indicate a successful BIOS flash. Using another USB drive can help, and you have to make sure the BIOS file is named according to the instructions.
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The 3600 + 3060 ti is what I have and 1) yes, it's a great 1440p gaming experience (with DLSS on if you turn on ray tracing), 2) the stock cooler works really well but it's very loud, replace it if your PC is going to sit on your desk.
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