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SpicePro posted:It depends if it's 16, 32 or 64 bit. And if they're keeping the data on a Lotus Symphony spreadsheet. Just googled that and it's still available! Found a whole site of archaic software: https://winworldpc.com/home Page snipe: 167 https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspa.1938.0124 Dirac's paper Classical theory of radiating electrons is in volume 167 Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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SpicePro posted:It depends if it's 16, 32 or 64 bit. Some of us hipster nerds prefer the good old days of 36 bits.
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OwlFancier posted:If people wanted it to be better than their preferred ideal time they wouldn't keep saying they want it to be their ideal time, and that time would not, in fact, be ideal. Perhaps you could point out the explicit text in the article we are discussing that says anything remotely resembling that? The most persuasive argument for a better world being possible is the experience of those who used to live in one. And once that fundamental principle is established, everything else is details and tactics.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Just googled that and it's still available! Found a whole site of archaic software: https://winworldpc.com/home My productivity 
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radmonger posted:The most persuasive argument for a better world being possible is the experience of those who used to live in one. And once that fundamental principle is established, everything else is details and tactics. I don’t see how this follows? ‘A better time than the one currently existing once did exist’ isn’t a good argument for ‘we can attain a better state than the previous one, and we need to go back to that to do so’. It simplifies the world once again to a good-bad sliding scale and fails to take in to account any of the complexities not just of society but like, life. Or anything. Just like, the world. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t radmonger the guy who usually gets told to gently caress off being very Nazi adjacent or something awful? I had a Pavlovian reaction to that username to tell him to gently caress off but then no one else did so wasn’t sure if I was thinking of someone else.
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SpicePro posted:It depends if it's 16, 32 or 64 bit. Excel, actually.
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Drone_Fragger posted:That actually all seems fairly straight forward, I’m guessing the difficult part in biosciences like this is actually getting the code you want written since I’m guessing it needs a shitload of solutions, chopping rna up and splicing bits of it in and suchlike. Nah, chopping around genes is piss easy, especially when its still short sequences like this. I know people who assembled way bigger bits of DNA as part of a one-person PhD project. The difficult part is building the whole platform that lets you assemble the code (in the computer metaphor this would be...the compiler?) and figuring out which are the important bits to include, like the degradation protection. And obviously you need to be able to manufacture it at scale and design your delivery system in a way that won't cause all sorts of fun and exciting immune reactions. But certainly part of the appeal is that once that's all set up you can respond pretty drat fast to new mutations by just swapping in a new sequence for the antigen. And presumably the regulatory process is going to be much easier, as its 99% the same thing.
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Miftan posted:Excel, to the contrary. ftfy
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Jakabite posted:Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t radmonger the guy who usually gets told to gently caress off being very Nazi adjacent or something awful? I had a Pavlovian reaction to that username to tell him to gently caress off but then no one else did so wasn’t sure if I was thinking of someone else. That's Breath Ray. Radmonger is the mewling centrist who is wrong about everything.
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Not that I mean this as any kind of hurry up or suggestion the NHS need to work harder but would another lock down assist not only in combating the spread of the virus but also to free up staff from dealing with sports injuries, Saturday night fights and the normal volume of road accidents, to concentrate solely on delivering the various vaccines?
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Dead Goon posted:Potato, tomato. Those don't rhyme.
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Jose posted:journalists realising they've hosed it now on twitter whining at not being allowed onto covid wards to report on how bad it is to combat fake news can you share any examples please
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Not that I mean this as any kind of hurry up or suggestion the NHS need to work harder but would another lock down assist not only in combating the spread of the virus but also to free up staff from dealing with sports injuries, Saturday night fights and the normal volume of road accidents, to concentrate solely on delivering the various vaccines? Been mulling this since I got that NHS Volunteer thing about helping with injections. Assume 1 person can do 30 injections an hour (which sounds slow but I think it's actually pretty quick - you've got to confirm their identity, wait for them to get their shoulder exposed, sterilise the site, etc - for most patients it'll be at least 30 seconds and I think 2 minutes is a decent average). Then the patient has to be kept under observation for 30 minutes afterwards - let's say another member of staff to babysit the output, and two people running check-ins, queue management, etc. That's 4 staff to do an absolute maximum of 240 injections a day, let's call it 200 to allow for delays, no-shows, etc. We'll put them in units of 5 injectors, each of which will also need a nurse or paramedic just in case of problems, and someone running the logistics. 22 people to do a thousand a day - that might be a little on the high side, obviously if it's based at a hospital or specialist site you can cut the amount of staff down, but I'm trying to come up with a worst case here. If you want a pace of a million injections a week - enough to do 50% of the population by the end of next year, bearing in mind there's two jabs - that's 22,000 people. Which sounds like a lot, but there are 1.4 million people working in the NHS, and someone somewhere has already apparently made the decision that clinical staff don't have to be the ones actually doing the jab. If you want to pull in outside orgs that might be able to help - there are 57,000 registered pharmacists in the UK, and something like 120,000 pharmacy assistants who are (I *think* - there's a pharmacist ITT I believe who can hopefully confirm or deny) all qualified to do vaccinations. St. John's Ambulance have 30-odd thousand registered first aiders. What I'm saying is personnel numbers aren't the problem for the vaccine rollout. It's the logistics of getting the vaccines to the right place, sorting out who goes where and when, and arranging safe (physically and medically) transport to the vaccination locations that's the problem. Unfortunately it's this sort of detailed management that this government are almost hilariously bad at. However I do think a proper lockdown - not this half-hearted tiered poo poo - should *definitely* be in place from Jan 1st to whenever we've got all the highest-priority cases done. By this I don't necessarily mean those most at-risk, but all of the health care workers, essential workers, carers, etc. This is the group that will have the best multiplier (divisor?) effect on the R number. 8-10 weeks would be an ambitious timescale to get them done but I don't think it's impossible especially as by definition this is a population with the least complex logistical needs, and (hopefully!) also requiring the least chasing to get the jabs, and would let us work out all the kinks in the system while also helping to protect the most vulnerable, which is at least what all of this is supposed to be about. Then we can go back to letting Boris play with tiers (we can give him a big map with uniformed women pushing little tokens around it to keep him happy) while we get everyone else sorted out.
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Convex posted:can you share any examples please Presume it's this. https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/1344004078465118209 From the very same master of investigative reporting who brought us https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/08/imagine-the-state-wed-be-in-if-corbyn-had-been-in-charge-the-view-from-the-red-wall.
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the actual problem is the massive amount of "journalists" like toby young allison pearson who should be shunned out of the profession
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Been mulling this since I got that NHS Volunteer thing about helping with injections. I don't have any medical or clinical experience at all, but injecting a person every two minutes seems too shorter duration? While you can outsource everything other than actually giving the injection (eg pre-injection forms/questions, post injection observations), you still have to get the people on and off the facility, while maintaining social distancing, and I'm assuming you can't have people queue in cars the same way they do for testing because of the observation period required afterwards. It seems like (beyond the raw number of doses available) the size and number of injection sites - and distributing the vaccine to them - would be a bigger limiting factor than the number of people we can train to give intermuscular injections. I hope I'm very wrong though as I'd rather not be waiting until 2022 to get my vaccine.
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They're not. I'd imagine that most of the community pharmacists would be but hospital pharmacists and the 9-5 primary care lot (whatever it is that they do) probably aren't. Don't know about pharmacy assistants but I didn't think they did injections, could be wrong though. Retail pharmacy is a loving awful job. Anyone who has been doing that full time this year is an absolute hero. It took about 45 minutes for me to have my first vaccine. That included about 15 minutes of standing outside in the missing rain and 15 minutes of having a nice sit down after to make sure I didn't fall over or grow an extra head. The rest of it was being asked the same questions a million times (this must be what patients feel like all the time) and wending my way through a one way system to get to the jabber.
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Jose posted:the actual problem is the massive amount of "journalists" like toby young allison pearson who should be shunned out of the profession It's not a profession. If it was there would be a regulatory body that would investigate conduct that would bring the profession into disrepute (telling loving lies about COVID, for example) and then impose sanctions on journalists.
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Dont worry guys I've just lodged a new patent that will solve the problem and make me horribly rich. 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Been mulling this since I got that NHS Volunteer thing about helping with injections. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7R8ryqju0 (Not to be confused with Prince Andrew's private plane.) Jose posted:the actual problem is the massive amount of "journalists" like toby young allison pearson who should be shoved into a blender
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goddamnedtwisto posted:What I'm saying is personnel numbers aren't the problem for the vaccine rollout. It's the logistics of getting the vaccines to the right place, sorting out who goes where and when, and arranging safe (physically and medically) transport to the vaccination locations that's the problem. Unfortunately it's this sort of detailed management that this government are almost hilariously bad at. The medic I spoke to last week also agreed that the supply of vaccine is the Achilles heel. They'd been part of the arrangements to set up our local drive through vaccine centre which is now doing dress rehearsals using the flu jab. I think basically anyone with access to a vehicle is going to get sent to the drive through because it's safer for all involved than doing it in a surgery. Quicker too, as people are less likely to have to struggle out of their outside coat or chat for 10 minutes about other ailments. ANPR is being used to help with identification so the flu jab took less than a minute from window down to window up. I think there'll be some sort of deviation from the 30 minute rule going on. Maybe asking people to be accompanied for 30 minutes, rather than wait on site. Our vaccine centre was laid out to allow 4 vaccination crews working simultaneously, so that means you need to hold 120 cars while making sure 4 leave each minute, as 4 others arrive. There was no allowance for this on the site.
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blunt posted:I don't have any medical or clinical experience at all, but injecting a person every two minutes seems too shorter duration? While you can outsource everything other than actually giving the injection (eg pre-injection forms/questions, post injection observations), you still have to get the people on and off the facility, while maintaining social distancing, and I'm assuming you can't have people queue in cars the same way they do for testing because of the observation period required afterwards. Yeah, and I accounted for those staff too. The model I used was blood donation (which was in my mind because I gave a pint of what was probably basically marzipan this morning), where that's pretty much how they manage it, except I was much more generous with the amount of support staff (a typical blood donation centre will have one admin person, one nurse, and one aftercare person per three phlebotomists, I gave each vaccinator two admin and one aftercare to account for the much faster throughput). Sites to do it will not be a problem, either. Let's keep my 5-vaccinator unit example going. Once up and running you're going to have 150 people in aftercare, and let's say the same amount queueing. 300 people requiring 2 square metres of space each, plus space for the actual vaccinators, storage, etc - let's say 750 square metres total. That's really not that big (a basketball court is 500, for context) meaning that basically any leisure centre, reasonably-sized theatre or cinema, or just-gone-out-of-business high street store is more than big enough and not likely to be doing anything until the lockdown is over. According to Rightmove there are over a thousand office spaces in that size range available to rent in London right now if Rishi needs to prop up his chums. e: Just realised they'd need *4* square metres of space each, not two - damned dimensions - but even then the point still stands, there's thousands of 1-2,000 square metre venues available around the country. Obviously smaller rural communities will have smaller village halls etc, but then they won't need the full thousand-a-day throughput either. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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My mam reads The National, the paper that launched after the indyref because there was a gaping hole in the market for a paper that didn't hate independence, a view held by a couple million people. Unfortunately it is loving appalling but whatever, so are all the other papers so that's ot unique. But they often have wee stories on incredibly dumb culture war bullshit. Not the culture war you expect mind, less raving against trans people and more...well, this Outlander blasted for portrayal of prince The article itself is basically just churnalism, a press release for some book (the final paragraph is "A talk given by the author earlier this month to introduce the book and answer questions about it from a has been uploaded by Birlinn on its YouTube channel, which can be found at by searching “Birlinn Books” on the site." which is just amazingly low effort) by the chairman of The 1745 Association. The highlight is he asks why South Africa could have a Truth & Reconciliation Commission but we haven't had one for a conflict older than the USA. I needed to get that off my chest because my mam reads this drivel. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Instead of a Truth and Reconciliation thing they should just have a PPV fight between Prince Charles and Franz of Bavaria and then both should get proper jobs.
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forkboy84 posted:My man reads The National, the paper that launched after the indyref because there was a gaping hole in the market for a paper that didn't hate independence, a view held by a couple million people. Unfortunately it is loving appalling but whatever, so are all the other papers so that's ot unique. Sorry about your ex-partner. 
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endlessmonotony posted:Sorry about your ex-partner. My phone autocorrecting 'mam' to 'man' is one of the more awkward mistakes it's been responsible for.
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Gambrinus posted:They're not. I'd imagine that most of the community pharmacists would be but hospital pharmacists and the 9-5 primary care lot (whatever it is that they do) probably aren't. Don't know about pharmacy assistants but I didn't think they did injections, could be wrong though. o7 I'm a pharmacy assistant. Only the pharmacist is qualified to give vaccinations and not all of them can or will do it. Technicians do not give vaccinations. I'd happily do it if they'd let me though. e: this is in a fantasy world where I have enough time to do my job as it is, plus a load of extra time to give injections in. We are right up against the fuckin wall, our company has cut staff to the bone over the last couple of years. HopperUK fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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forkboy84 posted:My phone autocorrecting 'mam' to 'man' is one of the more awkward mistakes it's been responsible for. I've seen worse. Really changed the tone of the post though.
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Jose posted:lmao the eel seller Should also repost the video of him being now completely owned by Brexit: https://twitter.com/SloughForEU/status/1343901000046931972 e: also I think the MEP is the one who got kicked out for fist-fighting in the EP building, the name is hard to forget LMBO HOOK'EM Private Speech fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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