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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

High Protein posted:

It took quite a bit of effort to get that to work, but I was able to find out how to send commands to the display. It's now driven over USB by an Arduino that receives the text from a CoreTemp plugin.

between this and getting my first piece of 3d printed anything this week, i really do feel like I live in the cyberpunk future.

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High Protein
Jul 12, 2009

LifeSunDeath posted:

between this and getting my first piece of 3d printed anything this week, i really do feel like I live in the cyberpunk future.

I first added the ATX motherboard tray to this case about 15 years ago, but never really ended up using it because it wouldn't take decent size fans. Last year I got a 3D printer and with that I was able to print adapters for it to hold a 140mm and 120mm fan. Issue was also that I didn't have the proper adapters to get the case to take more than one hard drive and didn't have a bezel for an optical drive. Nowadays I could print those as well but time has catched up and I don't need those drives anymore.

Bargearse posted:

Nicely done. I'm hoping when I get around to doing my next build I'll be able to integrate a Kryoflux into the case.

I was able to add a floppy drive using an USB to FDD adapter, but from what I get those adapters are limited to 1.44MB disks.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

High Protein posted:

I might have posted my PC in this thread before. However the innards are also starting to get on in age.




High Protein posted:

It took quite a bit of effort to get that to work, but I was able to find out how to send commands to the display. It's now driven over USB by an Arduino that receives the text from a CoreTemp plugin.

Holy poo poo I'm jealous. :allears: Great work.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

rndmnmbr posted:

Get that BTX bullshit out of the thread. God loving drat it I hated that poo poo. I replaced bespoke Dell motherboard after bespoke Dell motherboard in my mom's computer until I got sick of it and bought her something else with standard ATX components so I wouldn't have to hunt through any more shady Ebay auctions for motherboards I could only hope actually followed BTX standards.

I never even knew what BTX was until after I'd inadvertently bought a cheap second-hand Dell machine that used it and then wanted to use the mainboard in another machine :v: It was nice that the side came off with a single clip and the drives were in those nice clip-in cages that didn't require any screws, but why were the drives upside-down with no airflow? I got rid of that thing pretty quickly!

Needing to use a floppy drive recently I remembered how in my old AT mini tower case there are no fans at the front, nor any air intakes, so all the air seems to get sucked in through the floppy drives, meaning they're caked with dust :( I seem to remember no air intakes at the front being a pretty normal thing in generic AT cases? I do have an AT tower case with a big grill at the front though. Wish I had one of those fancy IBM ones though!

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Ugh, I just thought of that period of time where Dell was using proprietary power supplies and pinouts on otherwise normal-looking machines. That was a pain in the rear end.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Some really unique items in this recent LGR unboxing video.

Man, I love those old rear end computer badges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNh9g-M58Dc

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Lol that thumbnail just made me realize for the first time in maybe 25 years that Doonesbury was a thing that existed

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I really want that IBM mug even though I never use mugs.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



Think every house in the 80’s / 90’s was required to have this.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Same except ours was a Bell & Howell

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Lol that thumbnail just made me realize for the first time in maybe 25 years that Doonesbury was a thing that existed

Exists. Doonesbury is still going. (Sundays only for the last couple of years though.)

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
To me, Doonesbury is paper taped to the wooden door of professors; I honestly stopped thinking of it as a comic strip ages ago and started thinking of it as an academic inside joke

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I would always steal the comics section of the Sunday paper from my parents and I hated doonesbury with a passion. Probably because I was a child and

Dr. Quarex posted:

To me, Doonesbury is paper taped to the wooden door of professors; I honestly stopped thinking of it as a comic strip ages ago and started thinking of it as an academic inside joke

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Oh my loving god. This isn’t obsolete but it is obscene https://youtu.be/JMieEnzb58c

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Is the obscene part what he reveals when he takes the cards apart?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Cojawfee posted:

Is the obscene part what he reveals when he takes the cards apart?

Yes.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Arivia posted:

Oh my loving god. This isn’t obsolete but it is obscene https://youtu.be/JMieEnzb58c

I completely forgot that was a thing. P2s are a bit new for me, I was still on HDV and we had one camera that did BD Discs in a caddy. And that was a bitch to ingest for our workflow in Avid Media Composer as we were geared up for logging and digitizing from HDV tape Decks.

Aix
Jul 6, 2006
$10
back in i think 2009? i was working at a local station and we were planning on upgrading our handheld small cams (used for single person eng) from the trusty old panasonic dvx100 to either the panasonic hvx200 or the sony ex-3. we all agreed on playing it safe and getting the panasonic one, after all the dvxs had served us well and we werent sure wether our workstations could handle the long-gop files the sony camera would spit out (the hvx was mostly intra frame)

well the hvx200 used p2 cards and as that video points out, even in 2009 they were expensive as all hell. i think they still were like $2000 for 32gb back then (so we only ever had a couple of them), whereas the sony could actually use consumer cards (not sure wether it was sd or memory stick) via a relatively cheap adapter.
getting the videos off the p2 cards into avid was a pain as well. avid was really built for tape ingest back then. you had to get some haphazard driver which let you sort of mount the p2 card via usb or firewire as a bin in avid, which would then let you use the consolidate feature function which was NOT made for ingest at all to get the files on your local hard drive / network storage. i think the only metadata you got this way was the timecode

to make things worse, that camera only did 960 times sth, not even full 720p. it upscaled the video to whatever hd resolution youd set it to, whereas the sony ex3 actually got real 1080p. i really regret getting that panasonic camera
at least i didnt gently caress up as bad as james rolfe / the avgn, he bought the hvx200 thinking it would record hd to dv (it had a minidv tape drive for legacy purposes). it did not, using dv the only advantage youd have over the dvx was having a native 16:9 sensor

TheDarkOfKnight
May 14, 2003

All the world's a stage. Look at the lighting!
Station I currently work at uses P2 cards for ENG and in Master Control. The commercial editors use them as does Sports. There's got to be four or five dozen P2 cards floating around the building at any given time.

Aix
Jul 6, 2006
$10
panasonic still makes p2 eng cams (and microp2, a sorta-backwards-compatible newer system) and theyre pretty decent for what they are
https://na.panasonic.com/us/audio-video-solutions/broadcast-cinema-pro-video/camcorders/aj-px5100-hdr-ready-shoulder-mount-eng-camera

you see them around all the time, i dig their color science even though its not really that accurate. kinda oversaturated and cartoonish, like sth youd see in an ad for a tv

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
Yep, P2 still very much alive, we recently just upgraded our readers to USB3 versions. The cameras and cards are indestructable-- our gear is from 2010, gen2 1080i cameras.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Aix posted:

back in i think 2009? i was working at a local station and we were planning on upgrading our handheld small cams (used for single person eng) from the trusty old panasonic dvx100 to either the panasonic hvx200 or the sony ex-3. we all agreed on playing it safe and getting the panasonic one, after all the dvxs had served us well and we werent sure wether our workstations could handle the long-gop files the sony camera would spit out (the hvx was mostly intra frame)

well the hvx200 used p2 cards and as that video points out, even in 2009 they were expensive as all hell. i think they still were like $2000 for 32gb back then (so we only ever had a couple of them), whereas the sony could actually use consumer cards (not sure wether it was sd or memory stick) via a relatively cheap adapter.
getting the videos off the p2 cards into avid was a pain as well. avid was really built for tape ingest back then. you had to get some haphazard driver which let you sort of mount the p2 card via usb or firewire as a bin in avid, which would then let you use the consolidate feature function which was NOT made for ingest at all to get the files on your local hard drive / network storage. i think the only metadata you got this way was the timecode

to make things worse, that camera only did 960 times sth, not even full 720p. it upscaled the video to whatever hd resolution youd set it to, whereas the sony ex3 actually got real 1080p. i really regret getting that panasonic camera
at least i didnt gently caress up as bad as james rolfe / the avgn, he bought the hvx200 thinking it would record hd to dv (it had a minidv tape drive for legacy purposes). it did not, using dv the only advantage youd have over the dvx was having a native 16:9 sensor

I was using older Sony stuff that were only HDV and we got 1080i out of those? We also had these nifty packs on that went over the battery pack that were a Compact Flash drive so I could record to tape and card, then have someone run that for upload if needed to be edited quickly for evening news from the footy field.

A rare photo of my daily carry when on rigs or ships about a decade ago:

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 14:45 on Dec 29, 2020

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Humphreys posted:

I was using older Sony stuff that were only HDV and we got 1080i out of those? We also had these nifty packs on that went over the battery pack that were a Compact Flash drive so I could record to tape and card, then have someone run that for upload if needed to be edited quickly for evening news from the footy field.

A rare photo of my daily carry when on rigs or ships about a decade ago:



You've made such films as:

Stiff Riggin
Manhole 90 Miles From Land
Drill Deeper 3
Deepwater Event Horizon: In My Butt
and Lubricants: A Love Story

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

drilldo squirt

Aix
Jul 6, 2006
$10
yeah, hdv was decent, putting an interframe videostream on dv tape worked well for prosumer and consumer stuff. the hvx just didnt support it, it was just plain old dv with that one. weird as hell move by panasonic

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
I worked on something today that might be of interest to this thread. I wrote a little Web Server that proxies SA and rewrites its HTML into something less complex so older browsers can render it (and also proxies files and has SSL off :v:). Basically, it lets you access modern SA from old hardware.

The theme is based on the SA design from 2001, or at least what version of it was on the Internet Archive.





Mostly wanted an excuse to screw around with an ol' laptop I had.



I tried seeing how far back I could go, and so far it works fine with IE3.





pngs don't work, but since I'm already proxying files I could convert them into something else.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Drastic Actions posted:

I worked on something today that might be of interest to this thread. I wrote a little Web Server that proxies SA and rewrites its HTML into something less complex so older browsers can render it (and also proxies files and has SSL off :v:). Basically, it lets you access modern SA from old hardware.

The theme is based on the SA design from 2001, or at least what version of it was on the Internet Archive.





Mostly wanted an excuse to screw around with an ol' laptop I had.



I tried seeing how far back I could go, and so far it works fine with IE3.





pngs don't work, but since I'm already proxying files I could convert them into something else.

poo poo don't change

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Speaking of tech relics, the Brixit agreement has a bunch of copy paste from over 20 years ago. :lol::vince:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55475433

quote:

References to decades-old computer software are included in the new Brexit agreement, including a description of Netscape Communicator and Mozilla Mail as being "modern" services.

Experts believe officials must have copied and pasted chunks of text from old legislation into the document.

The references are on page 921 of the trade deal, in a section on encryption technology.

It also recommends using systems that are now vulnerable to cyber-attacks.

The text cites "modern e-mail software packages including Outlook, Mozilla Mail as well as Netscape Communicator 4.x."

The latter two are now defunct - the last major release of Netscape Communicator was in 1997.

The document also recommends using 1024-bit RSA encryption and the SHA-1 hashing algorithm, which are both outdated and vulnerable to cyber-attacks.

"It's clear that something is amiss in the drafting of this treaty, and we'd go so far as to venture the opinion that a tired civil servant simply cut-and-pasted from a late-1990s security document," news site Hackaday commented.

Several people have suggested the words were copied from a 2008 EU law, which includes the same text.

Prof Bill Buchanan, a cryptography expert at Edinburgh Napier University, said there was "little excuse" for the outdated references.

"I believe this looks like a standard copy-and-paste of old standards, and with little understanding of the technical details.

"The text is full of acronyms, and it perhaps needs more of a lay person's explanation to define the requirements."

Although SHA-1 and 1024-bit RSA "were a good selection a decade or so ago, they are no longer up to modern security standards," he added.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Drastic Actions posted:

I worked on something today that might be of interest to this thread. I wrote a little Web Server that proxies SA and rewrites its HTML into something less complex so older browsers can render it (and also proxies files and has SSL off :v:). Basically, it lets you access modern SA from old hardware.

The theme is based on the SA design from 2001, or at least what version of it was on the Internet Archive.





Mostly wanted an excuse to screw around with an ol' laptop I had.



I tried seeing how far back I could go, and so far it works fine with IE3.





pngs don't work, but since I'm already proxying files I could convert them into something else.

Very Cool

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Drastic Actions posted:


Browsing SA on old device


Careful! Remember when lowtax perma'd someone who was using a WebTV device browser to access the forums.

LifeSunDeath posted:

You've made such films as:

Stiff Riggin
Manhole 90 Miles From Land
Drill Deeper 3
Deepwater Event Horizon: In My Butt
and Lubricants: A Love Story

Well... there was Blow in the Bag.

(about alcohol testing on sites)

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 08:35 on Dec 30, 2020

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


Humphreys posted:

Careful! Remember when lowtax perma'd someone who was using a WebTV device browser to access the forums.

Lowtax can't hurt us anymore

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

oohhboy posted:

Speaking of tech relics, the Brixit agreement has a bunch of copy paste from over 20 years ago. :lol::vince:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55475433

I ran into that for a bid in 2010. It called for some old PTZ cameras made by Burle. Burle had been acquired by Philips in 1995. And Bosch had bought Philips camera division in 2003. Inquires to the A&E were met with letters informing me that I was wrong and only that camera would be allowed.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Thomamelas posted:

I ran into that for a bid in 2010. It called for some old PTZ cameras made by Burle. Burle had been acquired by Philips in 1995. And Bosch had bought Philips camera division in 2003. Inquires to the A&E were met with letters informing me that I was wrong and only that camera would be allowed.

That's where you agree and print up some little Burle stickers.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Humphreys posted:

Careful! Remember when lowtax perma'd someone who was using a WebTV device browser to access the forums.

if I had a way to test it on a WebTV or a Dreamcast, oh mama, I would.

I did test it on Mac OS 9 and X though, and it does work.





EDIT:

And, hell, why not.



EDIT 2:

And now DOS.



Drastic Actions has a new favorite as of 15:55 on Dec 30, 2020

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Drastic Actions posted:

if I had a way to test it on a WebTV or a Dreamcast, oh mama, I would.

I did test it on Mac OS 9 and X though, and it does work.





EDIT:

And, hell, why not.



EDIT 2:

And now DOS.





Wtf is up with the UI on that DOS browser?

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

It was the 90s and poo poo like that was cool.

The 90s weren't a very cool time.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Some Goon posted:

It was the 90s and poo poo like that was cool.

The 90s weren't a very cool time.

poo poo the gently caress off.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

poo poo the gently caress off.



Looks hopelessly uncool to me.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Some Goon posted:

Looks hopelessly uncool to me.

That's because it's the 80s :smugmrgw:

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Some Goon posted:

Looks hopelessly uncool to me.

turn on your monitor

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