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GunnerJ posted:It's a little obnoxious how knowingly meta it is to be calling it the "plot point" and also how it supposedly hinges on Vriska again.
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Pants Donkey posted:Hussie put on an ARG or something of that sort, with the prize being one thing the winner wants becoming canon. They wanted June Egbert to become canon, and she is basically a post-transition John. This is the first time the actual comic has really hinted that John (or Candy John, at any rate) might be transgender. page with the name source: https://www.homestuck.com/story/2653 also this reddit post has a pretty good rundown with more actual details and links but its worth noting that the arg is that andrew hid some wish granting toblerones in a cave bc Lmao
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John suddenly coming out as trans this late into the story seems... odd. I more or less bought it when Roxy did it because you don't spend much time inside her head but John's the freakin' protagonist and if body dysphoria was an issue for him you'd think it would have come up by now. Though I suppose given the nature of Homestuck it could be an alternate timeline version of him which would be fine I guess.
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readingatwork posted:John suddenly coming out as trans this late into the story seems... odd. I more or less bought it when Roxy did it because you don't spend much time inside her head but John's the freakin' protagonist and if body dysphoria was an issue for him you'd think it would have come up by now. Though I suppose given the nature of Homestuck it could be an alternate timeline version of him which would be fine I guess. A lot of the stuff from the beginning where John is having mellifluous-but-nonspecific musings about mysterious musicians feel like they probably line up with various egg feelings, although I'm 100% sure they weren't intended as such at the time. Plus you can be trans and not have body dysphoria, although I am nothing like an expert on trans issues.
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I know quite a few folks who didn't transition until their 30's or later, you can be fundamentally unhappy with yourself but not recognise it as a gender thing for a long time.
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Rand Brittain posted:A lot of the stuff from the beginning where John is having mellifluous-but-nonspecific musings about mysterious musicians What
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GunnerJ posted:What https://www.homestuck.com/story/82
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Jesus christ
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Lol I want it to happen from my perch in the following by proxy seats, but it 100% has no reasonable basis
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readingatwork posted:John suddenly coming out as trans this late into the story seems... odd. I more or less bought it when Roxy did it because you don't spend much time inside her head but John's the freakin' protagonist and if body dysphoria was an issue for him you'd think it would have come up by now. Though I suppose given the nature of Homestuck it could be an alternate timeline version of him which would be fine I guess. I'm trans and yeah it's extremely not always that simple. theres so little representation for the incredibly common experience of not loving knowing for decades of your life and must being vaguely miserable until you figure it out. this shits hard and a lot of the time it's more complicated than always knowing, even if sometimes there were clues when you look back
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My 20s were a trainwreck of trying to bruteforce college in spite of my issues, and it was only after transitioning in my 30s that I got my poo poo together. And yeah, in retrospect you do see some signs that seem obvious. Here, however, Roxy just abruptly brings up gender stuff which comes out of left field.
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Lol that it leaves john speechless too. And that students name? Albert einstein.
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Pants Donkey posted:Hussie put on an ARG or something of that sort, with the prize being one thing the winner wants becoming canon. They wanted June Egbert to become canon, and she is basically a post-transition John. Not quite The first person who found one of Hussie's toblerones jokingly declared herself the new author of Homestuck and decreed that June was canon. Hussie replied saying "It will be done". Prior to this reply, there was no conceit of the toblerones granting wishes.
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ArfJason posted:Jesus christ
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My boyfriend and I are reading through Original Homestuck together from the beginning, for the first time for him, and wow I'd somehow forgotten how good it was back then, especially taken slowly and read through fresh eyes. His dad was a programmer back in the '80s-'90s and always went on at length about tree structures, so he's delighted by Rose's sylladex in particular and insists the whole comic is a portrayal of someone trying to install an OS on their computer, which I admit is not too far off. Then he tells me he bought his dad the first book for Christmas. I asked if he was sure, because it gets real weird, and he insisted his dad would love it. Later, when reading I believe when Dave reverse-trolls Tavros, he started laughing and said "I bought this for my dad." His boomer dad. It's pretty great.
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Torgover posted:Later, when reading I believe when Dave reverse-trolls Tavros, he started laughing and said "I bought this for my dad." His boomer dad. It's pretty great. that sequence is one of the funniest things ive ever read in any media we are entrenched in this poo poo, now wriggle your rear end off that muddy embankment before charlie gets the loving drop
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The HS2 Patreon announced they're going on hiatus and planning on rejiggering the tiers and bonuses. Will update you if they say anything more on the Patreon. I suspect asking people for $20/month wasn't sustainable.
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paranoid randroid posted:that sequence is one of the funniest things ive ever read in any media
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Karkat's argument with himself across time is executed so flawlessly its almost scary. Like the way it intertwines with itself and it manages to make sense once youve read it teoce is nothing short of incredible and impressive
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ArfJason posted:Karkat's argument with himself across time is executed so flawlessly its almost scary. Like the way it intertwines with itself and it manages to make sense once youve read it teoce is nothing short of incredible and impressive
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Hey all, long time no post. Just swinging by to ask a Hiveswap Act 2 question I can't seem to find an answer to anywhere else regarding the train station tickets and the trial. So early in the game, you can either get two real train tickets, or just one and then trade them and the pogs for two fake train tickets. It turns out you need the pogs to get the best outcome in the trial that takes place half-way through the train, but in order to get both real tickets you need to betray Chixie's trust by telling Elwurd about her plans. This really upsets Xefros, and he has a separate conversation with Joey about how it was wrong and dangerous to blab about things like that. Does this have consequences later? I liked the outcome where you talk things through with Chixie instead of spilling to Elwurd better, but I'm willing to go back and redo that puzzle to get a better outcome in the trial, but I'm hoping that doesn't end up screwing something else up later. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate it!
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Dolash posted:Hey all, long time no post. Just swinging by to ask a Hiveswap Act 2 question I can't seem to find an answer to anywhere else regarding the train station tickets and the trial. It actually has positive consequences, you need too real tickets and those pogs to solve a crime later. Although you miss out on more Chixie dialogue and more charitorization for Dammek. Arsenic Lupin posted:The HS2 Patreon announced they're going on hiatus and planning on rejiggering the tiers and bonuses. Will update you if they say anything more on the Patreon. Especially not during a plague that directly effects people's employment status. Like, I can't speak for everyone, but times have been pretty tough over the past few months.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:It actually has positive consequences, you need too real tickets and those pogs to solve a crime later. Although you miss out on more Chixie dialogue and more charitorization for Dammek. Thanks! Just to clarify, though - the characterization for Dammek and the Chixie dialogue are just the bits from the alternate solution to the train ticket puzzle, right? Like there's not going to be another quest 80% of the way through Act 2 where you can only get the good outcome if you didn't betray Chixie's trust? I'm only checking because the extra dialogue Joey has with Xefros if you sell Chixie out to Elwurd seems to strongly imply that you did a bad thing, while the dialogue where you give Chixie the microphone and talk her out of being the masked singer just seems generally better for everyone. It's kind of a weirdly opaque decision for the player to prioritize your inventory of puzzle-solving items over the situation in front of you.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:It actually has positive consequences, you need too real tickets and those pogs to solve a crime later. Although you miss out on more Chixie dialogue and more charitorization for Dammek. Wait you can actually solve the crime on the jadeblood car!? I have mixed feelings about this. I really like the statement that convicting the wrong person makes about both troll society and the liberal PMC mindset regarding reform. You being able to do justice good kind of ruins that.
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On a whim I read through the Midnight Crew intermission, and man, what a great thing that all was.
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Dolash posted:Thanks! Just to clarify, though - the characterization for Dammek and the Chixie dialogue are just the bits from the alternate solution to the train ticket puzzle, right? Like there's not going to be another quest 80% of the way through Act 2 where you can only get the good outcome if you didn't betray Chixie's trust? Yeah, Hiveswap suffers from bad and unintuitive game design at certain points and that's one of them. readingatwork posted:Wait you can actually solve the crime on the jadeblood car!? I have mixed feelings about this. I really like the statement that convicting the wrong person makes about both troll society and the liberal PMC mindset regarding reform. You being able to do justice good kind of ruins that. Yes, there are multiple ways to solve the crime in the jadeblood car, and including a way in which no one dies.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Yeah, Hiveswap suffers from bad and unintuitive game design at certain points and that's one of them. What really got me was going back and forth in the first cave to find something relevant. Eventually I heard that they'd cut the actual trolls for that scene, so there were a lot of objects that had no use.
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Fancy Hat! posted:On a whim I read through the Midnight Crew intermission, and man, what a great thing that all was. I want a Midnight Crew adventure game way more than I ever wanted a Homestuck game.
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Argh, this Hiveswap Act 2 bug right near the end! I've been waiting to find the Lusus Medicine for Strella this whole time, and when I got sent all the way back there to pick up the faygo for the clowns I assumed that'd tie in, but instead Joey just gave the "sorry I didn't do your sidequest" dialogue. Then I look it up and apparently due to a bug you have to use the first aid kit on Skylla before you leave the lowblood train car for the first time or else it won't register? I really don't want to have to redo 80% of the game, does anyone know if helping Skylla is important to solving something else? It feels like it could play into solving the "kill a clown" quest the same way that, say, solving the trial without killing the anime nerd helped with the "kill a teal" quest. If it's just a nice thing to do for Skylla I can do that on an old save just to see it.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it didn't make a difference. It was a good game, though! I enjoyed it, felt very Homestuck, and I'm especially enjoying the expanding on and fleshing out of Alternia. I'm down for all this class analysis and conflict, the train was basically that old political cartoon of the class layer cake "we rule you/we fool you/we shoot you" thing. Alternatively it's Troll Snowpiercer.
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I just discovered the new stuff and holy poo poo its bad. Its like bad fanfiction of itself. Is this an intentional thing because Hussie is an eternal troll and specifically hates his own audience, or is it an earnest attempt that just sucks?
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Nix Panicus posted:I just discovered the new stuff and holy poo poo its bad. Its like bad fanfiction of itself. Is this an intentional thing because Hussie is an eternal troll and specifically hates his own audience, or is it an earnest attempt that just sucks? Hussie has announced a new project of his own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjT1vn3vCwk
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The epilogues being pretty good and Homestuck^2 not reading right made me appreciate Hussie's writing more. I'm interested in seeing him write something that isn't heavily bogged down by existing lore
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It's not Hussie-written. It's by a new team who, yes, include fic writers. I like it, but it isn't Hussie. The stupid poo poo with Hideo Kojima in that trailer is precisely what I miss from Hussie's writing. The entire build up is a joke so terrible that it wraps around to being hilarious. I feel that kind of recklessness is what's missing from The Later Chapters & ^2. Which I suppose is a roundabout way of saying Hussie is terrible at wrapping things up in character driven work (Problem Sleuth wrapping up neatly because the characters are basically 1-Dimensional), but the ride up until then is always wonderful.
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Yeah. I still kinda like HS2, but it's def not great. I love the Epilogues though, they are A R T.
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