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Chomskyan posted:https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1343740924937924615?s=21 The BBC always keeps middle aged Chengguan busy it seems.
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Dec 30, 2020 13:56
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Chomskyan posted:I think that’s the right thing to do, but I don’t think that would solve China’s propaganda problem, which is larger than Xinjiang and has more to do with its relationship with the west i agree, keep them in the camps to show the bbc who is the loving boss
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Dec 30, 2020 13:59
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GoutPatrol posted:i agree, keep them in the camps to show the bbc who is the loving boss Yeah, that’s definitely what I said
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Dec 30, 2020 14:03
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indigi posted:what’s the stand up or improv comedy scene in China like? is there one um idk too much because im not that in to comedy. i went to an english language improv comedy thing last month, the performers were a mixture of american, english, and chinese. it was alright but i dont know how to judge that well because im not into that stuff much. it looks like improv comedy stuff in the american style but speaking chinese exists too but i cant speak to it. stand up i have no idea but ive seen advertisements for open mics and have never gone. also they have that crosstalk stuff mentioned above but it relies largely on wordplay that goes over my head LimburgLimbo posted:When will you become a functional adult in China my target is late 2021
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Dec 30, 2020 14:27
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mila kunis posted:lol that owns
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Dec 30, 2020 14:34
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Bro Dad posted:they have crosstalk, which is a bunch of carefully rehearsed who's on first style routines that old people fuckin love Al-Saqr posted:funnily enough one of the biggest stars china ever had in this field is a Canadian who goes by the name 'Dashan'. he's still an active comedian until today. he seemed like he started shifting into standup comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbR_3snPxrw also since my chinese now only comprises about a dozen words, i noticed he's joking about being called 老外 around 2:00... i think. also screws with the audience with a tongue twister at the end BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 21:22 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 17:53
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1344358845053714433?s=19 EU gets: No joint-venture requirements in financial services and phases them out in the automobile sector. Access in markets for health services, cloud computing and electric vehicles, and lifts monopoly rights for auxiliary air-transport services. Pledge that state-owned enterprises won’t discriminate between European and Chinese firms. Some toothless environmental and labor language. China gets: Greater access to some EU manufacturing sectors and to the EU's energy industry. Chinese access to the EU renewables sector can increase as China lifts its barriers to European investment.
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Dec 30, 2020 21:10
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It makes sense for both sides, China really doesn't need to be as protective of its domestic industries as it once it did, and now Chinese industries are competitive, European investment following into them isn't a big deal. It sounds like private domestic firms being "encouraged" to invest in state enterprises might be a way to get around the subsidy clause. In return, China gets more market access and ties the European market to the BRI even further. The real loser is a certain other unnamed country. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 21:50 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 21:41
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1344358845053714433?s=19 lol oh yeah i'm sure airbus is going to really just break into that market seems like the EU is getting washed here, lots of promises that can be broken easily for market access, which can't
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Dec 30, 2020 21:43
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https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1344302667473051649?s=21 Stoller is having a normal one e: https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1344304706458423298 Red and Black has issued a correction as of 22:19 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 22:13
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OhFunny posted:No joint-venture requirements in financial services and phases them out in the automobile sector. what does this mean
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Dec 30, 2020 22:14
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indigi posted:what does this mean Currently to sell a car in China you have to either import it and pay a tariff or manufacture it locally. In order to manufacturer locally you have to enter into a maximum 50/50 joint venture with a domestic company. There are also policy limitations on how many joint ventures you can have. Eliminating this will mean carmakers can just set up wholly owned local manufacturing.
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Dec 30, 2020 22:17
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Chomskyan posted:https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1344302667473051649?s=21 as a liberal i'm against command economies and in favor of free trade. if we just let each actor pursue their individual advantage in a marketplace that does nothing but enforce legal contracts i'm sure we'll arrive at the best of possible worlds. nooo not like that!!! stop!!
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Dec 30, 2020 22:34
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Chinese EV is already competitive against Tesla, which is made inside China. It make sense to open this market to EU too. In return China's new energy companies have a lot of opportunities. Also interesting China promises SOE won't discriminate against EU companies. Which means they will still freely discriminate against other countries. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 22:45 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 22:39
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i was listening to bidens incoming national security advisor just this loving morning talk about how the new good china policy will also be bullying china but more competently since theyll get the europeans involved so is this deal actually relevant in that context or is bidens extremely vague new china policy just intended for domestic consumption and not something theyre actually bothering to communicate to the europeans
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Dec 30, 2020 22:56
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Some Guy TT posted:i was listening to bidens incoming national security advisor just this loving morning talk about how the new good china policy will also be bullying china but more competently since theyll get the europeans involved They assumed that the Europeans would/will just buckle under and everything would reset to the Obama-era.
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Dec 30, 2020 23:16
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Ardennes posted:They assumed that the Europeans would/will just buckle under and everything would reset to the Obama-era. biden is gonna fly around to quad countries, and people will publicly complain about china, but the underlying structural forces are too powerful to disentangle and international capital needs china more than china needs international capital now
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Dec 30, 2020 23:38
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If China aligns with Europe then America will have to align with Russia
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Dec 30, 2020 23:41
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The EU is not going to help the US against China any more than paying lip service if Biden doesn't give 1) Nordstream2 to the Germans and 2) IT tax to French.
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Dec 30, 2020 23:49
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PawParole posted:If China aligns with Europe then America will have to align with Russia Yeah, that is pretty much out of the question, not only are Russian-American relations dire but Russia is carrying a significant trade surplus with China. Also, the EU is signalling with Nordstream 2 that it isn't going to back serious new sanctions against Russia. So.... it is pretty much just India.
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Dec 30, 2020 23:49
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trump half-heartedly and incompetently tried to do rapproachment with Russia to balance against China but the dems and the natsec state weren't having any of it. now it is maximalist do incompetent color revolutions and hope the clock goes back to 1991. The US doesn't and really never had the capability to press China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and Syria all at the same time as hard as possible and have any sort of success
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Dec 30, 2020 23:50
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Chomskyan posted:https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1344302667473051649?s=21 I am laughing hysterically because one of my beliefs has always been that any bullshit saber-rattling concerning China is only as effective as the US's belief that Europe will show up if it needs them to.
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Dec 30, 2020 23:53
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KaptainKrunk posted:trump half-heartedly and incompetently tried to do rapproachment with Russia to balance against China but the dems and the natsec state weren't having any of it. Putin knows that Russia's future really is going to more than anything depend on balancing the EU and China and Russia acting as a conduit for trade and energy, the US really doesn't figure into that plan beyond being an impediment. He was fine with glad-handing Trump but the reality was that Washington's policy versus Russia never shifted and a rapprochement isn't possible because the US refuses to compromise in any sense. Unlike China in the 1970s, Russia isn't under the same economic pressures and now China has the cash to buy Russian resources to offset any American moves. Basically, the US is stuck now trying to fight on all fronts, and thereby, slowing losing on all of them. The fact that the Pacific fleet already is being stretched past its capacity is not a good sign. Then you have India, if it isn't clear, has some pretty massive domestic issues at the moment. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 00:06 on Dec 31, 2020 |
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Dec 31, 2020 00:02
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dont worry president biden is on the case and has exactly the plan we need to solve that problem once and for all build boats back better
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Dec 31, 2020 00:06
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I have no idea who any of these people are, I assume they are all professional twitter comedians, but I am 100% sold on the idea that Barack Obama, a private citizen in 2017 at the time of the French Presidential election, brought about the downfall of Pax Americana because he endorsed Macron instead of Marine LePen?
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Dec 31, 2020 00:18
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stephenthinkpad posted:Chinese EV is already competitive against Tesla, which is made inside China. It make sense to open this market to EU too. In return China's new energy companies have a lot of opportunities. hopefully they'll still discriminate against EU companies
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Dec 31, 2020 00:38
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, that is pretty much out of the question, not only are Russian-American relations dire but Russia is carrying a significant trade surplus with China. Also, the EU is signalling with Nordstream 2 that it isn't going to back serious new sanctions against Russia. what about japan?
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Dec 31, 2020 00:41
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Japan is a part of RCEP and China is their largest trading partner.
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Dec 31, 2020 00:47
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didn't stop them from joining the quad epic hero avengers or whatever the gently caress
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Dec 31, 2020 00:48
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mila kunis posted:didn't stop them from joining the quad epic hero avengers or whatever the gently caress Yeah, but lets be honest, Japan doesn't have a huge amount of options here especially considering their demographic and fiscal situation. The US-Japanese security arrangement is going to stay, but they really do need to seriously trade with China. Otherwise, Australia and New Zealand don't factor in the equation very much and Taiwan is pinned. I do think Modi's liberalization of Indian agriculture is aimed at better trade relations with the US but it clearly isn't going over well.
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Dec 31, 2020 01:13
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Ardennes posted:Putin knows that Russia's future really is going to more than anything depend on balancing the EU and China and Russia acting as a conduit for trade and energy, the US really doesn't figure into that plan beyond being an impediment. He was fine with glad-handing Trump but the reality was that Washington's policy versus Russia never shifted and a rapprochement isn't possible because the US refuses to compromise in any sense. Unlike China in the 1970s, Russia isn't under the same economic pressures and now China has the cash to buy Russian resources to offset any American moves.
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Dec 31, 2020 01:17
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CCP kinda figured Japan/LDP out, basically Japan will still keep their hostility against China year after year (see annual like/dislike survey and Japan's pro active role in the Quad) but Japan will not slow down trade integration in the Asia ecosphere. That's why China no longer talk nice to Japan diplomatically. Wang Yi was in Japan and he just straight up said Diaoyu Island belongs to China while in Japan, and the coast guard fleet still circled the island during his visit. This is basically China version of Abe visited the shrine immidiately after him stepping down. To sum it up Japan keeps the business going but carry the dagger all the time. And China knows it and has no plan to improve this relationship dynamic. Given the tight corner Japan is in right now, I think this strategy is best for the medium term. I really don't think the upcoming Olympic can revive their economic even if it not cancelled. I think in the last few years Japan has managed the Sino-Japan relationship very professionally, only plotting devious deeds against China geopolitically but ever directly offened the Chinese people. This is something Taiwan and Australia should learn from.
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Dec 31, 2020 01:48
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Dec 31, 2020 01:55
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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1344414311540637696?s=19 lol wasn't there also-uncorroborated intel on Russia doing this exact thing not a month or two ago
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Dec 31, 2020 04:40
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https://twitter.com/Echinanews/status/1344477619576655874
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Dec 31, 2020 04:48
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Protagorean posted:https://twitter.com/axios/status/1344414311540637696?s=19 yes. it didn't work the first time so they're trying again
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Dec 31, 2020 05:04
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gradenko_2000 posted:yes. it didn't work the first time so they're trying again Has the American public indicated in the last decade that it gives more than a fractional gently caress about small numbers of dead American soldiers? Why do they think this will get any traction with a public that's not interested?
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Dec 31, 2020 05:08
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John_A_Tallon posted:Has the American public indicated in the last decade that it gives more than a fractional gently caress about small numbers of dead American soldiers? Why do they think this will get any traction with a public that's not interested? It's kinda funny because the post-Vietnam takeaway was that "the American public will not give a gently caress about how many wars you get into as long as they don't see the bodies on the evening news" so the corporatist media got co-opted into only portraying the America's wars in a positive light, and it worked really well, for that specific purpose. And then now they want to make the public care about American soldiers getting merked, either to own Trump and/or to escalate tensions with Russia/China, and it's not working because the prior project was so successful!
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Dec 31, 2020 05:32
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Protagorean posted:https://twitter.com/axios/status/1344414311540637696?s=19 lol irl
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Dec 31, 2020 05:54
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*TRMUP thinking harder than he ever has in his life to get Americans mad at China* *scribbling out "Russia" from old dubious intelligence brief with a Sharpie and writing "CHINA!" above it*
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Dec 31, 2020 06:00
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