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Fojar38 posted:This is a great thing to post in the middle of your rant about that time the Chinese government bulldozed 2 million poor people's homes for no reason and totally legal at least the government said so
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Dec 29, 2020 16:57
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Porfiriato posted:Beijing is absolutely not trying to turn itself into Shanghai, a city with at least a bit of character and humanity. The goal of Beijing’s leadership is to turn it into a safe, bland, sterile, charmless city that satisfies the central government’s obsession with order and control. Reminds me of a travel book I am reading. When he gets to some of the communist era Chinese railways through East/Central Africa, his description is something along the lines of: " 'nowhere to hide' was the central, unspoken rule of Chinese urban planning"
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Dec 29, 2020 17:10
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VideoTapir posted:that isn't what liberalize means quote:That is in no way what China has been doing. quote:What does 'regressive' mean here and which countries have been it? Coolguye fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Dec 29, 2020 17:54
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"Furthermore, Putin is really cleaning up Russia boy howdy!" The 'billionaires' are being purged by other billionaires for their own benefit, as is consistent with the previous 3000 years of human history.
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Dec 29, 2020 18:52
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yeah they are definitely being assassinated by political rivals, that's not a question, but the political climate outright supporting it is a big change
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Dec 29, 2020 19:12
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Tupperwarez posted:So, Singapore is still the gold standard for the CCP? spore does not gently caress around, is not fuckin around, and will never gently caress around w the street food, altho it's mostly all indoorsish but thats just because being outside in spore is a nightmare hellscape
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Dec 29, 2020 19:29
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Coolguye posted:Japan prior to Perry (wherein they had banned foreign trade almost entirely since the sengoku era and had suffered so much technological regress they didn't even use ox-drawn plows for farming anymore, hand hoes were used instead), you can't use ox drawn plows for rice growing because deep plowing, which is what you need the ox plows for, will gently caress up the paddy bedpan and make the water in the paddies leak. so only dry rice growing, which is hella less productive than wet, is compatible w ox plowing euros always went to asia and then regarded asian peeps as primitive for this but lol
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Dec 29, 2020 19:32
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they grew a lot more than just rice in japan, both in the sengoku era and at the time perry showed up. they abandoned the use because the small markets/lack of trade precipitated an industrious revolution rather than an industrial revolution; labor was just so cheap that there was no incentive to innovate, but labor being cheap makes lives for the lower strata pretty grim. from a strict rice perspective, waterwheels were in fairly common use around the sengoku era for use in processing rice, but by the time perry showed up they had almost entirely fallen out of use in favor of naked dudes just stomping the raw harvest behind a screen. e: to be one hundred percent clear about this, the point is not some weird, oblique point about relative primativeness or whatever. it is the point that there was a literal loss of technology - the most clear-cut definition of regress, instead of progress - when these places turned inward to become "self-sufficient" rather than turning outward to work with others and become interdependent. a regime that encourages this pathway is therefore regressive. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Dec 29, 2020 19:50
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Sakoku was a deft move to make at the time. Free colonial-era "trade" was often a trojan horse for cultural subversion and political domination. It was wise to cut off the baka gaijin before they became teme gaijin. Japan had finally unified, it didn't need perfidious albions sticking their nose where it didn't belong.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:16
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Coolguye posted:from a strict rice perspective, waterwheels were in fairly common use around the sengoku era for use in processing rice, but by the time perry showed up they had almost entirely fallen out of use in favor of naked dudes just stomping the raw harvest behind a screen. they did this one to avoid paying millers lol
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Dec 30, 2020 01:43
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Dont Touch ME posted:Sakoku was a deft move to make at the time. Free colonial-era "trade" was often a trojan horse for cultural subversion and political domination. It was wise to cut off the baka gaijin before they became teme gaijin. letting christians convert your peasants and loot your silver worked out really well for china though
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Dec 30, 2020 02:07
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Man I loving love China. Anyone else feel the same? Just lmk if so 
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Dec 30, 2020 02:17
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Also Japan never actually isolated itself. It controlled entry strictly but the entire time it was still aware of the world and trading with Korea, China, and the Dutch. The whole reason they behaved as they did in the 1800s was they knew exactly what happened to China and wanted to avoid it.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:21
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Grand Fromage posted:Also Japan never actually isolated itself. It controlled entry strictly but the entire time it was still aware of the world and trading with Korea, China, and the Dutch. The whole reason they behaved as they did in the 1800s was they knew exactly what happened to China and wanted to avoid it. Also China had been doing to them what the Europeans were now doing to China before that Dandywalken posted:Man I loving love China. Anyone else feel the same? Just lmk if so Personally I think China has a lot of room to improve
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Dec 30, 2020 02:27
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Grand Fromage posted:Also Japan never actually isolated itself. It controlled entry strictly but the entire time it was still aware of the world and trading with Korea, China, and the Dutch. The whole reason they behaved as they did in the 1800s was they knew exactly what happened to China and wanted to avoid it. Which is also why when they did open up they decided to modernize the poo poo out of everything as fast as they could.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:28
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Which is also why when they did open up they decided to modernize the poo poo out of everything as fast as they could. they got lucky, this doesn't even always work!
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Dec 30, 2020 02:45
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Turned out Japan not really having any natural resources of note was a good thing, among other factors.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:51
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Grand Fromage posted:Turned out Japan not really having any natural resources of note was a good thing, among other factors. IIRC it also gained something of a reputation for being an island filled with insane heavily armed hermits
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Dec 30, 2020 03:02
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Devils Affricate posted:I was under the impression that the suit pictures, once unlocked, would be equally distributed to the the people of this thread, as according to their needs. If it's my choice to do as I wish with it, please share it here with our comrades. You guys paid a pretty penny for a picture, so I figure you guys should have the final say. I will ask them for you. Do note (repeating earlier disclosure) the picture isn't the actual suit except the tie as I can't find it, but it is a suit I own. If I do stumble upon it I will send a photo of it under current rules or release it based on what you guy decide now. However, I do have one actual picture of me wearing it taken at the time authenticated by metadata. Me wearing it locks it behind the $1000/letter writing tier. Coolguye posted:this looks like some suspiciously GLOBALIST thinking there mr oohhboy, 'specially that tradin' part BUSTED. Not really, more anti-isolationist/pro internationalism. I am more than happy to sanction/embargo/blockade the poo poo out of bad countries. Trade is a tool that a globalist tend to refuse to use as they are trade at all cost, example the pending EU/China trade pact which is the last thing anyone should be doing. Like any tool it must be used properly which orange has utterly failed to do, absolutely bungled and done for entirely the wrong motives.
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Dec 30, 2020 04:01
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Dandywalken posted:Man I loving love China. Anyone else feel the same? Just lmk if so I loved living in China back in 2011-2014 (gently caress, almost 10 years ago now...). Sucks that it's becoming more authoritarian. It also sucks that everywhere else is also becoming more authoritarian.
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Dec 30, 2020 17:06
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Fojar38 posted:IIRC it also gained something of a reputation for being an island filled with insane heavily armed hermits My favorite bit about its reputation is how it ends up in Gulliver's Travels. He goes to a land of giants, tiny people, intelligent horses, decadent immortals, and, uh, Japan. (as an avenue to satirize Europeans, of course)
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Dec 31, 2020 03:46
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If you pan a little to the left, there's a Vietnamese soldier Calvin pissing on them.
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Dec 31, 2020 03:54
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What? Next you're going to be telling me that Mao didn't personally pilot the Enola Gay.
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Dec 31, 2020 04:27
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Blistex posted:What? Next you're going to be telling me that Mao didn't personally pilot the Enola Gay. Well, his son had experience with American bombers, at least.
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Dec 31, 2020 04:52
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What's this from? Is this an official discovery channel thing?
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Dec 31, 2020 14:26
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Pham Nuwen posted:Well, his son had experience with American bombers, at least. I love that he ate it because he was a rank pulling rear end in a top hat who really wanted to cook his breakfast.
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Dec 31, 2020 14:45
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Pfft a real officer would have had his aide de camp cook breakfast 
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Arguably, resisting foreign influence was as much a pretext as it was a goal, with the ultimate goal likely being to strengthen the grip of the Shogunate over potentially uppity daimyos. It should be noted that sakoku was serious business and that it wasn't like trade with China or Korea continued unabated, it was all strictly controlled and channeled through Nagasaki (with a couple of exceptions) and was still quite limited. One of the most interesting consequences of this is that although opium and knowledge of obtaining opium latex for use in medicine slipped in before the bell (as it were), knowledge of the narcotic potential of smoking opium did not. So while that proliferated all around East/SE Asia, in Japan it never did. The first mention of it in the Japanese historical record is from observations of Chinese sailors from the early 19th Century, even though it had been pretty commonplace and notorious for well over 100 years in China by that point. That single gap in knowledge probably altered Japanese history. The Opium Wars shaped the entire trajectory of foreign policy aims and understanding of the Shogunate and the Meiji government following on.
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Dec 31, 2020 15:08
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My in-laws (in Jiangxi) just got a visit from the local police asking for scans of my wife's US passport and her sister's 10 year US visa card.
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Dec 31, 2020 19:48
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TheBuilder posted:My in-laws (in Jiangxi) just got a visit from the local police asking for scans of my wife's US passport and her sister's 10 year US visa card. Any more context? Or did I miss something earlier? Are they still in China? Did they have a reason to be asking for them?
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Dec 31, 2020 19:55
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TheBuilder posted:My in-laws (in Jiangxi) just got a visit from the local police asking for scans of my wife's US passport and her sister's 10 year US visa card. My wife's parents just lie and say that she's a student in Shanghai and not overseas. Somehow the vast power of the chinese surveillance state has not caught onto this lie.
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SerCypher posted:My wife's parents just lie and say that she's a student in Shanghai and not overseas. Somehow the vast power of the chinese surveillance state has not caught onto this lie. Chabuduo-rear end surveillance state.
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Dec 31, 2020 21:05
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SerCypher posted:My wife's parents just lie and say that she's a student in Shanghai and not overseas. Somehow the vast power of the chinese surveillance state has not caught onto this lie. keep up updated on when it does
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Blistex posted:Any more context? Or did I miss something earlier? In-laws still live in China, and my wife and her sister have both lived in the USA for nearly 10 years. Someone from the city government called father in law asking him for the scan, and when he didn't produce it in a few days, cops showed up to the house looking for resolution. My wife is refusing to provide her info, but my sister in law sent her PR card scan today. We have no idea anything specific as to the reason, but my wife does run a couple of Chinese based social media accounts with big sub counts.
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Like how the CCP just expects foreign nationals who are outside of the country to give them scans of their passports on demand with no reason given.
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Jan 1, 2021 01:46
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The net is tightening around Chinathread posters' social circles. Soon you will face justice
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I love that he ate it because he was a rank pulling rear end in a top hat who really wanted to cook his breakfast. His breakfast was subsequently cooked. Great success!
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Blistex posted:Like how the CCP just expects foreign nationals who are outside of the country to give them scans of their passports on demand with no reason given. If I am reading this situation right, they are doing this by threatening OP's wife's parents. By sending uniformed officers around. And not even giving a reason. (Unless OP's wife and sister-in-law are some kind of anti-Xi disharmonious monsters that is. In which case they deserve all the authoritarian thuggish repression and veiled threats against their blameless parents that the glorious 5,000 year old Chinese government can throw at them.) Seriously, threatening family members is a classic CCP move. It is scummy, it is cowardly, and it is hosed up. Kevin DuBrow posted:The net is tightening around Chinathread posters' social circles. Soon you will face justice If the CCP want to threaten any of my relatives, may I suggest going after my Uncle Adam. He's a complete arsehole, and I am yet to forgive him for what he did after my grandmother died. BrigadierSensible fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Jan 1, 2021 |
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