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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Someone forgot about Deathrace 2000

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oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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gently caress the heck off!!

oldpainless has a new favorite as of 02:02 on Dec 31, 2020

Baba Yaga Fanboy
May 18, 2011

more like old overthetopless

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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oldpainless posted:

gently caress the heck off!!

Stop!








































Or My Mom Will Shoot, is another of his movies.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Toshimo posted:

No Over the Top?? Get the gently caress out of here.

Interesting one because I think Stallone has the writing credit for that.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Toshimo posted:

No Over the Top?? Get the gently caress out of here.

I only know about this movie via Rifftrax.

And I had to buy a copy since Netflix did not have it in its DVD library at the time.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

oldpainless posted:

The following are good, or at least the films of Sly that I enjoy watching

The Party at Kitty and Studs
Rocky
Rocky Balboa
Rocky 4
Creed
Cobra
First Blood
Rambo (2008)
Demolition Man
Tango and Cash
Cliffhanger
Judge Dredd
Assassins
Expendables 2
Escape Plan





This list is objectively correct

Only one of these movies is good.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Someone smarter than I could probably write a lot about how Iraq War / Afghanistan War veterans crop up in American movies and TV and how that compares to Vietnam vets.

Justified (a show that would almost certainly not be green lit or received well now, despite being pretty recent) had a lot of its character be veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan wars. It almost never glamorised the wars, but the soliders were treated as damaged heroes a lot of the time.

Gutterson plainly has PTSD from being in “the sandbox” and jokes about it in a concerning way. Boyd Crowder doesn’t talk about Iraq much but it’s implied he had his teeth blown out and repaired. He’s a bit of a psycho who seemed to enjoy the “blowing poo poo up” factor. Colt Rhodes (what a name) has plain PTSD and a heroin addiction. He’s kinda the most tragic because he’s a “double winner” who served in both wars.

They’re all pretty sad situations and the war is never explicitly condemned or supported. It’s just something in people’s past that sucks.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

hawowanlawow posted:

yeah alien and aliens are the same way, while also being way better than rocky or rambo

isnt aliens meant to be a metaphor about vietnam

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


christmas boots posted:

Only one of these movies is good.

You have managed to be more wrong than his list.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

rydiafan posted:

You have managed to be more wrong than his list.

I never said which one

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
I watched Rocky a few years ago and the scene with Rocky and Adrian in his apartment is extremely uncomfortable. Adrian is clearly threatened, Rocky prevents her from leaving and forces the initial kiss on her. Given the rest of the movie, it isn't wholly clear if it was meant to be romantic or knowingly depicting coercion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xAlbOa06EU

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

SiKboy posted:

I'm not sure its fair to say the guy who wrote Rocky "lucked into it".

He also wrote and directed Rocky Balboa, which is a movie that totally understands why Rocky was so great. I totally thought it was gonna be weird and pointless when it was announced but it’s really, really good.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


verbal enema posted:

Charlie is a loving stalker he's is just as bad
I'd say that he does things that are just as bad as the things the others do, but unlike them he doesn't know they're wrong. He's a bad person by accident. The others know what they're doing and don't care.

christmas boots posted:

I never said which one
It's Tango & Cash. That's the good Stallone movie.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Tiggum posted:



It's Tango & Cash. That's the good Stallone movie.

That's because it is not a Stallone movie. It's a Kurt Russell movie. Co-Starring Jack Palance.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
What about the softcore porno he was in?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Cop Land.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

It's been a long time but if I remember right it's decent for showing cops as murderous assclowns. Like Serpico.

Not even cops like honest cops.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

It's been a long time but if I remember right it's decent for showing cops as murderous assclowns. Like Serpico.

Not even cops like honest cops.

:same:

I think in the movie Stallone was trying to be an honest cop, but because it was a town of cops from the city they just bullied the poo poo out of him.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


He was deafened in one ear in his youth saving a classmate after her car fell into the river so he couldn't be NYPD and they installed him as the town sheriff (it's a Long Island town that this group of cops all live in) and yeah they treat him as a joke.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Shiroc posted:

I watched Rocky a few years ago and the scene with Rocky and Adrian in his apartment is extremely uncomfortable. Adrian is clearly threatened, Rocky prevents her from leaving and forces the initial kiss on her. Given the rest of the movie, it isn't wholly clear if it was meant to be romantic or knowingly depicting coercion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xAlbOa06EU

It's also tedious. Rocky sucks.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
Rocky IV is the one I’ve watched most recently. It still holds up as big stupid fun. And don’t watch Stallone’s director’s cut that cuts out the pauly robot romance.

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

Copland isn’t a perfect film by any stretch but it’s definitely one of Stalones better ones. I’m curious how it would be received in today’s environment. I don’t recall it being at all controversial at the time for its depictions of corrupt AF cops.

Edit: I’m sure you could play Harvey Kitel’s monologue to a lot of real cops and they wouldn’t even get he’s supposed to be the bad guy.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


letthereberock posted:

Copland isn’t a perfect film by any stretch but it’s definitely one of Stalones better ones. I’m curious how it would be received in today’s environment. I don’t recall it being at all controversial at the time for its depictions of corrupt AF cops.

I think it's easier for people to swallow good cops taking down bad cops. Nowadays it'd also come across as naive because there's no way the cops would have to cover for Michael Rappaport's character killing two Black guys to the point of faking his suicide.

Disproportionation
Feb 20, 2011

Oh god it's the Clone Saga all over again.

Kanine posted:

isnt aliens meant to be a metaphor about vietnam

Yeah, or at least the marines are clearly based on US forces in vietnam. Someone as well once described aliens to me as "what if the US fought vietnam in the eighties, and still lost".

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Anyone still watch Shameless? It’s final season started a few weeks ago, and it really fell out of everyone’s consciousness. TVIV had threads for it, but not for the previous season. I have this season’s new episodes on DVR and haven’t gotten around to watching them. The intro episode deals with the COVID, and the show’s attempts at headlines stuff have been middling at best. Last we saw Carl, he was looking to join the police, so I’m apprehensive about the blistering hot takes on that.

Bad things happen to and are done by the characters, and the show basically flips a coin when deciding whether we’re supposed to take it seriously and have emotions about it, or just regard it as edgy hijinks.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Sunswipe posted:

I'd say that the idea Vietnam has been secretly keeping American POWs for ten years so they can be interrorgated by devious Soviet colonels, and the American government knows about this but wants to keep it secret would be regarded as a batshit conspiracy theory today. Not sure if that's better or worse than Rambo 3 having him support the noble Mujahideen against the dastardly Soviets

Ross Perot's run for president was partially based on his belief in that exact insane conspiracy theory. I wonder how many people flying one of those POW/MIA flags know that that's what the flag was originally designed to represent.

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!

rodbeard posted:

Ross Perot's run for president was partially based on his belief in that exact insane conspiracy theory. I wonder how many people flying one of those POW/MIA flags know that that's what the flag was originally designed to represent.

I think it was part of Reagan's political campaigning at the end of 1970's.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Dr Christmas posted:

Anyone still watch Shameless? It’s final season started a few weeks ago, and it really fell out of everyone’s consciousness. TVIV had threads for it, but not for the previous season. I have this season’s new episodes on DVR and haven’t gotten around to watching them. The intro episode deals with the COVID, and the show’s attempts at headlines stuff have been middling at best. Last we saw Carl, he was looking to join the police, so I’m apprehensive about the blistering hot takes on that.

Bad things happen to and are done by the characters, and the show basically flips a coin when deciding whether we’re supposed to take it seriously and have emotions about it, or just regard it as edgy hijinks.

Shameless should've killed Frank in season four or five when they were making it look they would and ended in season six.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Tiggum posted:

I'd say that he does things that are just as bad as the things the others do, but unlike them he doesn't know they're wrong. He's a bad person by accident. The others know what they're doing and don't care.

It's Tango & Cash. That's the good Stallone movie.

There is the episode where he fucks a girl and reveals it was all a ploy to make the waitress jealous while calling the girl a stupid slut. He is so cruel even the gang is shocked

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

Dr Christmas posted:

Anyone still watch Shameless? It’s final season started a few weeks ago, and it really fell out of everyone’s consciousness. TVIV had threads for it, but not for the previous season. I have this season’s new episodes on DVR and haven’t gotten around to watching them. The intro episode deals with the COVID, and the show’s attempts at headlines stuff have been middling at best. Last we saw Carl, he was looking to join the police, so I’m apprehensive about the blistering hot takes on that.

Bad things happen to and are done by the characters, and the show basically flips a coin when deciding whether we’re supposed to take it seriously and have emotions about it, or just regard it as edgy hijinks.

Shameless once ended an episode with the shocking revelation that Carl’s girlfriend had been murdered. Then it never brought this up or addressed it again.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Yeah they couldn't get Ed O'Neill to reprise his role.

Wasn't the next big thing for Ed O'Neill after series of failed cop shows literally a show where we basically get the version of Married with Children, where "Al" became a relatively successful local businessman instead of a failed high school athlete on a dead-end job, who in his 40's divorced his cheating ex-wife who made him miserable? Everything lines up so perfectly in Modern Family it might as well be called "MwC: The alternative dimension".

The daughter is still a party girl and the son is "not so great with girlfriends". One could say, "Not the Married with Children". :)

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Fish of hemp posted:

I think it was part of Reagan's political campaigning at the end of 1970's.
I think the signifier is independent now, if only because the plausibility of the theory gets more and more wild as you get away from it. The idea that there were some American soldiers either in off-records POW camps or lost in the woods in 1978? Sure, plausible possibility.

In 2008?

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
I'm not a big fan of Rambo. When I was a kid my great grandma had two pets, a dog named Rambo and a cat named Sambo. She might have been racist, but that's not the point. The point is Rambo would knock my tiny child body over and proceed to hump away and I wasn't powerful enough to stop it.

That's why I don't like Rambo.

Anyway, the original point is RIP MF DOOM.

Push El Burrito has a new favorite as of 22:44 on Dec 31, 2020

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Nessus posted:

I think the signifier is independent now, if only because the plausibility of the theory gets more and more wild as you get away from it. The idea that there were some American soldiers either in off-records POW camps or lost in the woods in 1978? Sure, plausible possibility.

In 2008?

Who was bringing that up in 2008? :confused:

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort
Maybe OP thought Ross Perot and Ron Paul were the same person.

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

Push El Burrito posted:

I'm not a big fan of Rambo. When I was a kid my great grandma had two pets, a dog named Rambo and a cat named Sambo. She might have been racist, but that's not the point. The point is Rambo would knock my tiny child body over and proceed to hump away and I wasn't powerful enough to stop it.

That's why I don't like Rambo.

What the gently caress

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Kevin DuBrow posted:

What the gently caress

We all have our demons.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Nessus posted:

I think the signifier is independent now, if only because the plausibility of the theory gets more and more wild as you get away from it. The idea that there were some American soldiers either in off-records POW camps or lost in the woods in 1978? Sure, plausible possibility.

In 2008?

Yeah, I didn't know it was conspiracy theory poo poo until the last few years.

The other thing is, that was in the time before DNA testing, so without any real way to identify a dead body, it just becomes an unknown soldier. There are groups that have been out in the jungles of Vietnam for the last 20 years that are identifying missing soldiers from finger bones and teeth and whatever other little amount of genetic material they can somehow find.

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letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

Kevin DuBrow posted:

What the gently caress

PYF Media that did not age well or animal sexual assault story

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