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Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1342483519738667009?s=21

:pedophiles: imma troop too guuuuys

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PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

The police shouldn't be allowed to have guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaNU7yDnsc

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

PeterCat posted:

The police shouldn't be allowed to have guns.

This is true, but I'd settle for a locked rifle that requires extensive paperwork if touched.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

This is true, but I'd settle for a locked rifle that requires extensive paperwork if touched.

"Hi, I'm the LockPickingLawyer, and..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF0uiRS8asc

Gotta love how one of the top comments is "I'm in awe. Used this lock in my patrol vehicle and thought my rifle was "secure". Wow...."

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao
GUESS WHO THE NEW BOOGEYMAN IS?!
https://twitter.com/areitu/status/1344037563338616832
:unsmigghh:

Stingwing
Mar 26, 2010

Thank you Mr President for Making America Great Again! USA #1! I shouldn't have to understand other cultures, I'm a god damn American hero.





Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

PeterCat posted:

The police shouldn't be allowed to have guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaNU7yDnsc

Just loving amazing that the SWAT team that arrived was saying that something really hosed happened and poo poo didn’t make sense and the department still covered for raid.

E: Hoollllyshit these dumbfucks didn’t even have flashlights out during a night raid

Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Dec 30, 2020

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
:smith:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532013-ohio-deputy-who-fatally-shot-casey-goodson-once-said-his-job-was-to-hunt

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao

Christianismus delenda est

staticman fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 30, 2020

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
Cops killed another black guy at a traffic stop. 1 mile from were Floyd was killed.



Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Black man wrongfully detained by maskless VBPD officer tests positive for COVID.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
https://twitter.com/attackerman/status/1344495727855153152?s=19

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

I'm sorry...a police sergeant in Boston earns 150 grand annual salary? :stare:

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

Duzzy Funlop posted:

I'm sorry...a police sergeant in Boston earns 150 grand annual salary? :stare:

It pays well to be a class traitor

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Duzzy Funlop posted:

I'm sorry...a police sergeant in Boston earns 150 grand annual salary? :stare:

Apparently
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/02/23/boston-police-officers-were-highest-paid-city-employees-in-2018/

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Police are one of the few jobs in this country with effective unions, and he has 23 years of seniority, so yes.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
simple math of dividing my police department's payroll from 2019 and dividing by total number of employees gives an average of $98k a year per position

doing the same for the health department(which includes the hospital) and the school district? $67 and $66 grand a year.

i'd imagine it gets even worse the larger a city gets as overtime fraud becomes more rampant

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-police-officer-forced-to-shoot-his-own-police-dog-at-crime-scene-20201231

He tried to fix the police from the inside.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Another blue on blue to juice their officer death numbers

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

I wonder if 2021 will keep up the pace for cop mortality that 2020 set.

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jan 1, 2021

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
There are ways to express yourself without being ghoulish. I suggest you find one.

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

McNally posted:

There are ways to express yourself without being ghoulish. I suggest you find one.

Thank you for your service, decorumbot

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


please knock Mom! posted:

Thank you for your service, decorumbot

Who the gently caress are you?

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

Steezo posted:

Who the gently caress are you?

Professional cop hater please knock Mom. Pleased to make your acquaintance.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Steezo posted:

Who the gently caress are you?

Lmao don't do this poo poo

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Lmao don't do this poo poo

Since we can't just block CSPAM out entirely, pointing out when they Kramer in here to be assholes doesn't seem like a bad thing.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Godholio posted:

Since we can't just block CSPAM out entirely, pointing out when they Kramer in here to be assholes doesn't seem like a bad thing.

That poster has been ITT for years though.

And no one Kramers in more than actual cops do.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

mlmp08 posted:

That poster has been ITT for years though.

And no one Kramers in more than actual cops do.

The thread is a year and a half old. But I'll concede they've been in GIP.

Which I still don't want to see turn into CSPAM.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Godholio posted:

The thread is a year and a half old. But I'll concede they've been in GIP.

Sorry. The poster has been active ITT from the years of 2019-2021. Better?

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
If it puts your mind at ease, sure.

I still don't like CSPAM bullshit personal attacks and like to see it called out.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
There are many roads to improving community policing! None actually involve the somethingawful forums though.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Godholio posted:

Since we can't just block CSPAM out entirely, pointing out when they Kramer in here to be assholes doesn't seem like a bad thing.

Just because they called someone in the thread ghoulish doesn’t mean they’re an rear end in a top hat.

Oh wait, you were talking about the other guy. 😬

Melthir
Dec 29, 2009

I need to go scrap some money together cause my avatar is just sad.

mlmp08 posted:

That poster has been ITT for years though.

And no one Kramers in more than actual cops do.

I mean outside of a certain Brit cop most of us LEO'S that have posted have been fairly chill and open about the fact that we actively disagree with the way most shore side LE is done and have worked to change how our coworkers go about their job. Law enforcement needs a purge and I'm really hopeful it happens with the group of guys coming up, the younger guys we are getting now aren't the poo poo stains we used to get in the past making jokes about be judged by 12 rather then carried by 6.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

ruddiger posted:

Just because they called someone in the thread ghoulish doesn’t mean they’re an rear end in a top hat.

Oh wait, you were talking about the other guy. 😬

I'm so good at kramering into threads I can even do it to threads I started

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Lookit you kramering in to your own thread like youre conducting a warrant. What do you think you are? A troopforum cop?

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

cops are killing people and not facing consequences

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

PookBear posted:

cops are killing people and not facing consequences

free rrail

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


PookBear posted:

cops are killing people and not facing consequences

ugh, with this again!

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit
It's probably not easy to keep track of names, and I don't exactly post in this thread every single day or anything. I wouldn't call myself a thread regular. If Steezo wanted to make a point about drive-by posting, point taken. In any case, here's something more than a single line of mod sass on why I think police officers' willingness to 'just do the job' is a big issue:

My vantage point is that I work in a hospital in Europe as a resident. My career isn't very long, just a few years after graduation. Nowadays I do easy mostly research-based stuff, but there was a time where I was a greenhorn working in an urban area inhabited by predominantly the socio-economically unfortunate. Something between a real city and a poor US mining town, you can probably imagine the situation. Western European-style 'socialism' means there's a bit more social spending, but don't think for even a moment that a slightly larger budget suddenly makes for competent social services. Far too often we had to deal with the consequences of improperly trained police officers bringing in a delirious grandparent or someone who was having a mental health crisis. So that issue where police officers are being told to do things they aren't trained or equipped for isn't just an American one, in case you were wondering.

Police unions are pretty strong over here in Europe as well. Police officers should therefore hold the (sometimes unique) position of being able to refuse tasks they feel they aren't equipped or trained for, but I've not experienced that. And it's not just the old guard, twenty, thirty-somethings haul in restrained people like they're cattle. Why? Well, they have to. Because nobody else is going to do it if they don't. Their preparedness to do the job poorly means this societal issue is pushed entirely onto the already vulnerable people who end up the victims of the officers' inadequate resources, which means regular people and the policymakers they elect don't have to care. That someone's mildly-demented granny ends up in an assisted living facility with a broken arm because Officer McGoodguy was given a nightstick, cuffs, a 19-year old partner who hasn't even entirely finished the country's brand of police academy training yet, and 2 days of training in defusing crises isn't their problem.
It's become the victim's problem and depending on their affinity for empathy, the officer's problem. This doubly sucks because it makes the good officers hate their job. The primary problem is policy and spending, but the consequences of that problem only exist because there's a willingness to be used as the do-everything force during the evenings and nights. I'm not telling cops to stop doing their job entirely, I just think there should be far more pushback on their side and I think police officers should embrace the idea that they're not being called incompetent by the people who say they shouldn't do X, Y, and Z, but that they're saying you just can't be good at everything.

Something like that doesn't fit in CSPAM because it's not a rant about Trump and I don't want to post it in D&D because D&D is full of debatelords without convictions or genuine opinions.

I don't post in this thread very often, but I read it every few days and have always kept up with its posts. Sometimes I take a small break, like when Daniel Shaver happened. That was very bad. But McNally, this thread is a collection of examples of police brutality and posters' reactions and responses to those events. It didn't entirely start off as that and previous editions of this thread weren't just that, but you can't deny that every so often that's what it turns into. I think that is because the people who post here have skin in the game, and I like to think the people who post in this thread actually care. This thread's content makes people feel a certain way, and I think it's almost cruel to require posters to keep their frustrations under wraps. I just thought an appeal to politeness after what has been posted on the last few pages was tone deaf. I don't think those two posters' posts were malevolent or ghoulish or evil. I think they were posts made by very reasonable but frustrated people and I think that's just what you're supposed to get with the stuff that's posted here.

Godholio posted:

If it puts your mind at ease, sure.

I still don't like CSPAM bullshit personal attacks and like to see it called out.

It's kind of strange you came crawling out of the woodwork to name and shame CSPAM thrice all of a sudden. You're using that phrase to characterize me as a member of a collective that is out to get you, which is a weird mindset to have. I don't think it's fair to spin a bad post into a rivalry or feud between subforums.

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

please knock Mom! posted:


It's kind of strange you came crawling out of the woodwork to name and shame CSPAM thrice all of a sudden. You're using that phrase to characterize me as a member of a collective that is out to get you, which is a weird mindset to have. I don't think it's fair to spin a bad post into a rivalry or feud between subforums.

When someone whose username I don't recognize drops what they think is a winning zinger out of (from my perspective) nowhere, I sometimes click on post history. Usually they're from CSPAM or Games, and almost everything on the first page of your history was CSPAM. I'm not a fan of that forum for a number of reasons, a big one being when I've tried to read it, it's usually just people being lovely and sniping at each other. I prefer the discourse we usually have in here, so I like to see the bullshit get stomped out quickly. I figured you were one of the dozens of shitheads who've popped in over the years to pwn the chud vets and just fling poo poo on the walls, but apparently you've been in GIP for a while and your name never caught my eye or changed or my lovely memory just lost track. So I apologize for not recognizing you as a regular (or thinking you were one of the people I described above), but not for thinking your post was bullshit.

McNally's a good dude and a good mod and puts up with a lot of nonsense without people jumping his case for keeping this one of the better places to discuss poo poo like this.

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