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Armacham posted:WW84 follows the DC superhero movie tradition of the villains being played by super talented actors, while the lead is hot garbage. Ever single person in this image is an incredibly talented actor*. Except one. Guess who was the star of the show.  * Except the white guy on the right, he was kinda meh.
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Armacham posted:WW84 follows the DC superhero movie tradition of the villains being played by super talented actors, while the lead is hot garbage. 
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Dec 30, 2020 09:14
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WW84: why is it that when Diana wishes that Steve is back, his consciousness ends up in some random dude, but when other people wish for things, they magically appear? Why couldn't Steve just magically come back as himself? It felt like they were setting up some moral dilemma of Diana effectively killing the poor random dude so that Steve could live but they just never brought up that fact again after she first sees him.
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Dec 30, 2020 14:12
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Strom Cuzewon posted:^^^ Oh god there's another? Well now I want a remake of all three, one starring Tom Hardy, one with Logan Marshall Green and one with Jai Courteney. Ed Skrein needs to play a villain in all of them.
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Dec 30, 2020 15:11
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Gordon Shumway posted:WW84: why is it that when Diana wishes that Steve is back, his consciousness ends up in some random dude, but when other people wish for things, they magically appear? Why couldn't Steve just magically come back as himself? It felt like they were setting up some moral dilemma of Diana effectively killing the poor random dude so that Steve could live but they just never brought up that fact again after she first sees him. Because she also wished he was taller and a brunette
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Dec 30, 2020 17:39
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Everyone wanted to take their wishes back because they wished for stupid and thoughtless poo poo off the top of their heads and no one believed it would work. Who hasn't said "man I wish my SO would just die already." Big regret when the djinn grants all of their wishes. Djinn's are like that, you get what you ask for and instant regret.
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Dec 30, 2020 18:20
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So I just got around to watching Tenet and... eeeh. I figure enough nitpicking about the time travel stuff has been done already, so I'll just stick to my main beef of the overall story motivation. First of all, "the whole world could be destroyed" is just kind of mediocre in general. If your stakes are so large they can easily end up feeling unreal and impersonal with no real emotional impact, which very much was the case here. It also very much did not help that the how of this threat was very artificial and intangible, and the why was only revealed like 5 minutes before the end. In general it felt like the movie made a point of being deliberately opaque, artificially hiding information from the audience just so it could have "clever" reveals later on. At one point you have the protagonist outright asking another character why they didn't fill him (and by extension the audience) in on important information earlier, and the response pretty much boils down to "cause I didn't feel like it". Everyone is constantly incredibly secretive about everything, but the movie only explains the necessity of the secrecy a couple of offhand sentences. It's a very "telling instead of showing" measure that just makes it feel more contrived. Last but not least, is it just me or is Nolan kinda bad at directing action? The big climax was mostly just a bunch of interchangeable extras running in circles shooting at nothing while explosions go off in the background. The smaller-scale action sequences aren't much better, often filmed overly close with aggressive cutting.
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Dec 30, 2020 20:28
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Another holiday weekend and Monster Hunter still is theaters only.
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Dec 30, 2020 20:29
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Okay, I get why the logo for the movie Ghostbusters II is the ghost holding up two fingers. But why is the logo in the movie doing the same thing?
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Dec 30, 2020 20:37
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Len posted:Another holiday weekend and Monster Hunter still is theaters only. I don't think you're missing out on much.
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Dec 30, 2020 20:40
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Okay, I get why the logo for the movie Ghostbusters II is the ghost holding up two fingers. But why is the logo in the movie doing the same thing? Because they are 2 ghostbuster 4 u, obviously.
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Dec 30, 2020 20:48
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Perestroika posted:So I just got around to watching Tenet and... eeeh. I figure enough nitpicking about the time travel stuff has been done already, so I'll just stick to my main beef of the overall story motivation. First of all, "the whole world could be destroyed" is just kind of mediocre in general. If your stakes are so large they can easily end up feeling unreal and impersonal with no real emotional impact, which very much was the case here. It also very much did not help that the how of this threat was very artificial and intangible, and the why was only revealed like 5 minutes before the end. Yea the movie kinda sucked. It did have that dude getting walled up in the climax fight though, which was pretty horrifying to think about.
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Dec 30, 2020 20:51
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Nostradingus posted:I don't think you're missing out on much. It has monsters and it has big swords it's exactly what I'm expecting
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Dec 30, 2020 21:15
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Sorry, I meant RECENT DC. Michael Keaton is clearly above all reproach.
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Dec 30, 2020 21:23
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Len posted:It has monsters and it has big swords it's exactly what I'm expecting I'm with you there. I'm expecting Resident-Evil-level stupidity but with some Tony Jaa and giant swords, plus Diabolos is in there somewhere. I'm going to be talking over it with friends (remotely) as we point out how terrible it is.
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Dec 31, 2020 06:21
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Perestroika posted:is Nolan kinda bad at directing Yes that’s correct. People that aren’t studio execs have known that for years.
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Dec 31, 2020 06:25
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Captain Monkey posted:Yes that’s correct. People that aren’t studio execs have known that for years. His sound mixing is so loving awful
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Dec 31, 2020 06:27
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I liked most of his movies but they've been getting worse in the sound department every year. Tenet was just nauseating to follow. It was the most "oh who gives a poo poo" I ever felt during a final battle.
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Dec 31, 2020 09:19
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The fact Nolan had characters wear masks for chunks of Tenet felt like a particular "gently caress You" to the audience & his critics regarding sound design.
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Dec 31, 2020 09:38
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I can picture Nolan's next movie, "Muff". The executives want a different name but he overrules them. Guys in sharp-dressed suits plan a heist next a loud construction site, a man with a thick accent issues a threat the moment a train comes into station, Cillian Murphy gets another bag stuffed on his head
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Dec 31, 2020 10:57
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Armacham posted:His sound mixing is so loving awful Movies need sliders for speech, music and sound effects like games do.
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Dec 31, 2020 12:49
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Movies need sliders for speech, music and sound effects like games do. And when you get a bunch of directors railing against the bastardisation of their "artistic vision" if you introduce this, you know which ones you can stop bothering with from then on.
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Dec 31, 2020 12:53
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In Soul when Joe's soul gets stuck in the cat, we see the cat's soul heading to the Great Beyond, and I was thinking "aw, you killed the cat you jerk", but when Joe leaves the cat's body, the cat is just fine. Did the cat go to heaven? Was it ripped out of heaven? 
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Dec 31, 2020 14:11
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bitterandtwisted posted:In Soul when Joe's soul gets stuck in the cat, we see the cat's soul heading to the Great Beyond, and I was thinking "aw, you killed the cat you jerk", but then we Joe leaves the cat's body, the cat is just fine. Did the cat go to heaven? Was it ripped out of heaven? Purrrrgatory
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Dec 31, 2020 14:12
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Captain Monkey posted:Purrrrgatory Bravo
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Dec 31, 2020 14:13
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bitterandtwisted posted:In Soul when Joe's soul gets stuck in the cat, we see the cat's soul heading to the Great Beyond, and I was thinking "aw, you killed the cat you jerk", but when Joe leaves the cat's body, the cat is just fine. Did the cat go to heaven? Was it ripped out of heaven? it still has 8 more lives it's fine
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Dec 31, 2020 20:18
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bitterandtwisted posted:In Soul when Joe's soul gets stuck in the cat, we see the cat's soul heading to the Great Beyond, and I was thinking "aw, you killed the cat you jerk", but when Joe leaves the cat's body, the cat is just fine. Did the cat go to heaven? Was it ripped out of heaven? Cats are assholes so going without soul and being fine is system working as intended.
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Dec 31, 2020 20:43
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bitterandtwisted posted:In Soul when Joe's soul gets stuck in the cat, we see the cat's soul heading to the Great Beyond, and I was thinking "aw, you killed the cat you jerk", but when Joe leaves the cat's body, the cat is just fine. Did the cat go to heaven? Was it ripped out of heaven? The cat is alive as a soulless abomination. Its going to be a Pet Sematary situation.
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Dec 31, 2020 20:44
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Why doesn't Elrond just murder Isildur in Mt. Doom and throw the ring in the fire? Also, prior to the absolute most terrifying scene in LOTR, during Bilbo's first reunion with Frodo, Bilbo definitely gives him a smile while Frodo is looking at the book and it's a smile without the eyes, like a real mean smile.
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Mauser posted:Why doesn't Elrond just murder Isildur in Mt. Doom and throw the ring in the fire? Well Isildur has the ring, that would probably make him pretty hard to kill. Also, if Elrond did kill him and picked the ring up to toss it, who's to say he wouldn't then go all "hmm, yes, why not me? Surely I could wield it for good, I'm Elrond of Rivendell!" No one can throw it in, everyone who gets to that point doesn't have it in them to do it, and it's only Gollum biting Frodo's fingats off and slipping over the edge in the rapture of finally getting it back that destroys it.
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Jan 1, 2021 01:21
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Yeah, it's explicitly one of Tolkien's themes in the books (and I don't think completely expressed in the films) that the corruptive power of the Ring is always going to overpower individual intent to destroy it, however strong. (I believe this is a metaphor for a Catholic theological idea about salvation being impossible by individual virtue, but I don't remember exactly.) The Ring ultimately only being destroyed due to chaos and coincidence is definitely part of the point.
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Jan 1, 2021 01:30
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And this corruption would overtake any sentient being, including the loving eagles, so shut up about that already.
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Der Kyhe posted:Cats are assholes so going without soul and being fine is system working as intended. rear end Souls?
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Jan 1, 2021 01:37
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IIRC Tolkien did come up what a what-if scenario about what might have happened if Smeagol’s redemption stuck instead of backsliding and it ends with him realizing he’d never be able to part with the ring and jumping into the volcano with it instead
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rydiafan posted:And this corruption would overtake any sentient being, including the loving eagles, so shut up about that already. Also: Elrond and Isildur just fought together in a years-long war to defeat the second-greatest threat the world had ever known. One's not going to just casually murder the other just because he's acting funny over a piece of jewelry. Even Boromir got to have a heroic death trying to protect Merry and Pippin after he tried to take the Ring from Frodo.
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Jan 1, 2021 02:07
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what if they just went to a different volcano
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yeah I eat rear end posted:what if they just went to a different volcano Elrond posted:The Ring was made in the fires of Mount Doom. Only there can it be unmade.
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So you think the ring would float in normal lava? Because if it sinks, but isn't unmade, it's still gonna be pretty unretrievable.
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Jan 1, 2021 02:48
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rydiafan posted:So you think the ring would float in normal lava? Because if it sinks, but isn't unmade, it's still gonna be pretty unretrievable. Sauron is patient. Lava turns into rock, weathers into sediments, gets washed up in a stream, someone will find it.
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Mauser posted:Why doesn't Elrond just murder Isildur in Mt. Doom and throw the ring in the fire? Because if you take the One Ring by force, even if only to destroy it, then you already want it too much to throw it away. That's why Frodo had to be the Ringbearer - he's the only person to ever acquire the One Ring without desiring it for any purpose.
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