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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

PawParole posted:

Let’s hope they mutually annihilate then, although Sudan deserves a W after all they’ve been through.

'Sudan' deserves a win by loving over their military establishment dogs and handing over power completely to the civilians who want democracy, the more the sudanese military gets wrecked and discredited the better.

Dont tie the idea of 'sudan' to the group of mercenaries and guard dogs like the sudanese military.

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Al-Saqr posted:

'Sudan' deserves a win by loving over their military establishment dogs and handing over power completely to the civilians who want democracy, the more the sudanese military gets wrecked and discredited the better.

Dont tie the idea of 'sudan' to the group of mercenaries and guard dogs like the sudanese military.

Not sudani so I don’t particularly care about the form of government they have. You seem to know better, so I’ll defer to you on that.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
What's going on in Sudan? There was a lot of optimism when they overthrew Bashir last year, and so far based on what gets informed the transition towards a normal civilian government is following the announced roadmap, and they've done a bunch of positive human rights reforms.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

steinrokkan posted:

What's going on in Sudan? There was a lot of optimism when they overthrew Bashir last year, and so far based on what gets informed the transition towards a normal civilian government is following the announced roadmap, and they've done a bunch of positive human rights reforms.

Basically the UAE and The Sudanese military are trying to take over and make it impossible to fully transition into civilian control of the government. They want a military republic regime the way egypt has.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Raqqa Flocka Flame posted:

It actually said on the back of the box something like "Made in Israel, by Jews and Arabs, side by side."

"with a fence between them, and the Jews had guns"

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

steinrokkan posted:

What's going on in Sudan? There was a lot of optimism when they overthrew Bashir last year, and so far based on what gets informed the transition towards a normal civilian government is following the announced roadmap, and they've done a bunch of positive human rights reforms.

It's a been a while since I checked in, but basically as Al-Saqr was saying the janjaweed were able to seize power during Bashir's ouster. The mass protests were always a coalition between middle class professional organizations and a wider section of the working class, but the massacres in June 2019 seem to have broken the movement. Parts of the middle class coalition entered into an agreement with the military that took power, and that's what the transition to democracy has been. It's a democracy financed by the gulf states and under the umbrella of US imperialism. The recognition of Israel is further evidence of that.

The Rapid Support Forces that carried out the massacres in June 2019 also fought for Saudi Arabia and the UAE in Yemen.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/sudan-drawing-down-troops-yemen-recent-months

Moderate Rebels, which is the Greyzone podcast, had an interview with some Sudanese Communist Party members in June 2019 about the situation. Obviously the situation has continued to develop, but it's neat background. https://moderaterebels.libsyn.com/the-uprising-in-sudan-whats-really-happening-domestically-and-globally-with-ahmed-sidgi-kaballo


PawParole posted:


Abiy is starting fights all over the place. The land in question is Sudanese, and recognized as Sudanese by the Ethiopian government. The squatters farming on it are from the only ethnic group that currently somewhat supports the government (Abiy having angered everyone else), and so he needs to stand firm on this or be overthrown.

Neat note; the flag there is the imperial flag, not the Ethiopian flag.

Are the Amhara the only ethnic group supporting Abiy?

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

Does anyone have a rundown of recent (~10 years) military actions by the ethiopia military? I imagine most of them are pretty green spending time by the Eritrea border or do they have significant presence in AU peacekeeping?

THS
Sep 15, 2017

TeenageArchipelago posted:

Just loving wild to remember that this year started with the US assassinating Soleimani

i very clearly remember arguing with people that iran probably shot down their own plane and people viciously arguing with me that this was impossible and that i was arguing for imperialism or whatever

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

THS posted:

i very clearly remember arguing with people that iran probably shot down their own plane and people viciously arguing with me that this was impossible and that i was arguing for imperialism or whatever

lol air defense crew with an itchy trigger finger thinking it was a b52

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

THS posted:

i very clearly remember arguing with people that iran probably shot down their own plane and people viciously arguing with me that this was impossible and that i was arguing for imperialism or whatever

You did an imperialism. You did a first worldism. You did a no-solidarity

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

THS posted:

i very clearly remember arguing with people that iran probably shot down their own plane and people viciously arguing with me that this was impossible and that i was arguing for imperialism or whatever

i mean for what it's worth there was precedent of other countries doing it

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Algund Eenboom posted:

You did an imperialism. You did a first worldism. You did a no-solidarity

do better in 2021

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

PawParole posted:

Abiy is starting fights all over the place. The land in question is Sudanese, and recognized as Sudanese by the Ethiopian government. The squatters farming on it are from the only ethnic group that currently somewhat supports the government (Abiy having angered everyone else), and so he needs to stand firm on this or be overthrown.

The Ethiopian Erdogan

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

guidoanselmi posted:

Does anyone have a rundown of recent (~10 years) military actions by the ethiopia military? I imagine most of them are pretty green spending time by the Eritrea border or do they have significant presence in AU peacekeeping?

invaded Somalia in 2004ish, fought a war with Eritrea, but most of their recent actions have been shooting protesters and the like.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

PawParole posted:

invaded Somalia in 2004ish, fought a war with Eritrea, but most of their recent actions have been shooting protesters and the like.


Maximo Roboto posted:

The Ethiopian Erdogan

Erdogan was at least popularly elected, once or twice.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

PawParole posted:


Abiy is starting fights all over the place.

Should have known once he got the Peace Prize.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
watch netanyahu start a loving war

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

lol Pollard is back in Israel

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1344174222462095361?s=20

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
i got suspended from twitter for commenting jonathan pollard should have been executed

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth

the jpost article was loving ridiculous, acting like he had been excessively punished for being jewish and not gotten off lightly because he had the intercession of a key US ally with a powerful lobby in the states, despite being the most incompetent spy in the public record--and one that wasn't even particularly loyal to israel! probably the only thing cheney and rumsfeld were ever right about was throwing that oaf in a box and misplacing the key

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
pollard is the mr. magoo of spies. real leslie nielson poo poo

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Darkman Fanpage posted:

i got suspended from twitter for commenting jonathan pollard should have been executed

lmao

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Darkman Fanpage posted:

i got suspended from twitter for commenting jonathan pollard should have been executed

i hope you specified "and in front of that fascist cartoonist for jpost that loves his dumb rear end so much"

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Raskolnikov38 posted:

i hope you specified "and in front of that fascist cartoonist for jpost that loves his dumb rear end so much"

Yaakov "I can barely draw stick figures" Kirschen? :thunk:

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Horseshoe theory posted:

Yaakov "I can barely draw stick figures" Kirschen? :thunk:

who else!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

remember the false-flag tanker attacks? buckle up buttercups
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1345002964247842818

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/1345106480626888707?s=20
https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/1345106484372402176?s=20
https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/1345106488327548928?s=20
https://twitter.com/JZarif/status/1345370089063915523?s=20

US and Iran are both sending out mixed messages right now.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/RAbdiAnalyst/status/1345251658100600833

this guy (Comrade March) has been killed by the Ethiopian government 12 times in the last year apparently.

PawParole has issued a correction as of 01:58 on Jan 3, 2021

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
let's talk about africa ITT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVI2qWNiJmI

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

our brave mercenaries fighting ISIS

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


lol rip

https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/status/1345901580026060801

THS
Sep 15, 2017

trumps got 17 days to light the match

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


PawParole posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RAbdiAnalyst/status/1345251658100600833

this guy (Comrade March) has been killed by the Ethiopian government 12 times in the last year apparently.

That guy is gorgeous

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

it was never going to leave in the first place lmao

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1346087729273171970?s=20

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Breaking news:- Qatar and Saudi Arabia have reconciled and are lifting all the siege and embargos

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1346164206836609024?s=20

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Congrats to Jared Kushner on bringing peace to the middle east

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Atrocious Joe posted:

Congrats to Jared Kushner on bringing peace to the middle east

What Jared Kushner thinks means more to those arab rulers than all of their citizens put together and I will never understand why other than they're a bunch of dogs.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

i'm mostly disturbed that this makes a US strike against Iran in the coming days more likely

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Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Al-Saqr posted:

What Jared Kushner thinks means more to those arab rulers than all of their citizens put together and I will never understand why other than they're a bunch of dogs.

probably all the bribes


DEFINATELY all the bribes

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