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carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

of course, the lesson to take here is to not ignore arguments you don't understand when doing a dangerous operation but ~~linux~~ unix is not ux so gently caress you here's a reboot instead

# ? Dec 19, 2020 17:04

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# ? May 28, 2024 09:46

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

carry on then posted:

of course, the lesson to take here is to not ignore arguments you don't understand when doing a dangerous operation but ~~linux~~ unix is not ux so gently caress you here's a reboot instead

Also copy/paste one liners will always be a fun and interesting way to streamline your day

# ? Dec 19, 2020 17:07

Scrotum Modem: Sep 12, 2014

pkill > killall

pgrep > piping poo poo to get an app's pid

# ? Dec 20, 2020 05:19

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

oh look, someone ported linux to nintendo 64 (again)

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/20201225190503.12353218812e1655f56f0bf8@gmx.com/T/#m0862c3484e0da7195dc8989421d30f01b3b1c63a

# ? Dec 25, 2020 20:46

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Tankakern posted:

oh look, someone ported linux to nintendo 64 (again)

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/20201225190503.12353218812e1655f56f0bf8@gmx.com/T/#m0862c3484e0da7195dc8989421d30f01b3b1c63a

haha neat

# ? Dec 25, 2020 20:51

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

now all we need to do is port an emulator

# ? Dec 25, 2020 20:58

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

pigs seems to be flying, sony released their own linux hid driver for the playstation 5 controller

https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-input/patch/20201219062336.72568-2-roderick@gaikai.com/

(well, they did put themselves up maintaining hid-sony a year ago, so maybe not that surprising, but it's still pretty unprecedented being sony)

# ? Dec 25, 2020 21:48

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

further positioning for streaming presumably.

# ? Dec 25, 2020 21:57

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

must be an android adjacent thing

# ? Dec 25, 2020 22:54

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

they should skip Linux and just contribute to FreeBSD

# ? Dec 25, 2020 23:18

The_Franz: Aug 8, 2003

eschaton posted:

they should skip Linux and just contribute to FreeBSD

sony ships millions of devices running freebsd and even they don't see the value in contributing upstream to a dead os

i think they sent a few trivial patches upstream in the ps4 days and that's it

# ? Dec 26, 2020 00:42

The_Franz: Aug 8, 2003

Tankakern posted:

pigs seems to be flying, sony released their own linux hid driver for the playstation 5 controller

https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-input/patch/20201219062336.72568-2-roderick@gaikai.com/

(well, they did put themselves up maintaining hid-sony a year ago, so maybe not that surprising, but it's still pretty unprecedented being sony)

i'm glad they split it into another driver. hid-sony was getting pretty huge and convoluted as it supported both ps3 and ps4 controllers, the move controllers, janky 3rd party ps3 controllers that need weird hacks, the ps3 remote and some kind of keyboard

# ? Dec 26, 2020 00:48

pseudorandom name: May 6, 2007

Workaday Wizard posted:

must be an android adjacent thing

Android requires you to deal with vendor kernels i.e. this kernel driver that they have written and released will never actually appear on existing devices, making it useless

it'd make more sense for their Android app to implement their full custom HID protocol entirely in userspace, because then it'd actually work

this is for PlayStation Now, there's even people with gaikai.com email addresses involved.

weird that they're not porting their FreeBSD fork to the server, though, I guess their primary consideration for selecting FreeBSD on the PlayStation 4 was that Linux is GPL 2 and GPL 2 doesn't matter on the server (stallman was right, etc.)

# ? Dec 26, 2020 01:24

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

pseudorandom name posted:

Android requires you to deal with vendor kernels i.e. this kernel driver that they have written and released will never actually appear on existing devices, making it useless

it'd make more sense for their Android app to implement their full custom HID protocol entirely in userspace, because then it'd actually work

this is for PlayStation Now, there's even people with gaikai.com email addresses involved.

weird that they're not porting their FreeBSD fork to the server, though, I guess their primary consideration for selecting FreeBSD on the PlayStation 4 was that Linux is GPL 2 and GPL 2 doesn't matter on the server (stallman was right, etc.)

lol

# ? Dec 26, 2020 01:33

The_Franz: Aug 8, 2003

pseudorandom name posted:

Android requires you to deal with vendor kernels i.e. this kernel driver that they have written and released will never actually appear on existing devices, making it useless

it'd make more sense for their Android app to implement their full custom HID protocol entirely in userspace, because then it'd actually work

this is for PlayStation Now, there's even people with gaikai.com email addresses involved.

weird that they're not porting their FreeBSD fork to the server, though, I guess their primary consideration for selecting FreeBSD on the PlayStation 4 was that Linux is GPL 2 and GPL 2 doesn't matter on the server (stallman was right, etc.)

the current driver that supports ps3 and ps4 controllers already ships in android, and sdl implements userspace raw hid drivers for ps and xbox controllers. it's how they work in things like the steam link app on apple devices

# ? Dec 26, 2020 04:43

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

i have a good feeling about 2021 folks, let�s keep fighting the good fight and make this the year of linus on the desktop

# ? Jan 1, 2021 09:51

mystes: May 31, 2006

Soricidus posted:

i have a good feeling about 2021 folks, let’s keep fighting the good fight and make this the year of linus on the desktop

Who needs cortana when you can have Linus on the desktop!

# ? Jan 1, 2021 09:59

pram: Jun 10, 2001

just chuckling to myself over the thought of someone using linux on a desktop :allears:

# ? Jan 1, 2021 11:06

Scrotum Modem: Sep 12, 2014

My hope is that 2021 brings us more of Richard Stallman's toe cheese.

ganoo

# ? Jan 1, 2021 14:14

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

pram posted:

just chuckling to myself over the thought of someone using linux on a desktop

Linux on the desktop is never going to happen by now, but it's because nobody uses desktops and not because nobody uses Linux.

# ? Jan 1, 2021 15:45

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

does any GNU/Linux have a voice assistant named Gary?

# ? Jan 2, 2021 08:00

qsvui: Aug 23, 2003; some crazy thing

xtal posted:

Linux on the desktop is never going to happen by now, but it's because nobody uses desktops and not because nobody uses Linux.

people use linux???

# ? Jan 2, 2021 08:19

mycophobia: May 7, 2008

linux is cool. linux ftw

# ? Jan 2, 2021 08:56

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

mycophobia posted:

linux is cool. linux ftw

As an embedded Linux engineer: This is not true.

# ? Jan 2, 2021 09:24

sb hermit: Dec 13, 2016

mycophobia posted:

linux is cool. linux ftw

# ? Jan 2, 2021 09:29

pram: Jun 10, 2001

mycophobia posted:

linux is cool. linux ftw

is it really though?

# ? Jan 2, 2021 09:35

pram: Jun 10, 2001

i was thinking these days i spend so much time dicking around with packer, docker, ansible, k8s and blah blah i rarely do any linux janitoring anymore. its become this anonymous substrate you throw your awful software on top of. sad state of affairs

# ? Jan 2, 2021 09:39

mycophobia: May 7, 2008

pram posted:

is it really though?

i mean. i like it better than win 10

# ? Jan 2, 2021 09:42

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

pram posted:

i was thinking these days i spend so much time dicking around with packer, docker, ansible, k8s and blah blah i rarely do any linux janitoring anymore. its become this anonymous substrate you throw your awful software on top of. sad state of affairs

This is all operating systems. Your operating system is a piece of poo poo though.

# ? Jan 2, 2021 09:43

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

pram posted:

i was thinking these days i spend so much time dicking around with packer, docker, ansible, k8s and blah blah i rarely do any linux janitoring anymore. its become this anonymous substrate you throw your awful software on top of. sad state of affairs

Docker was like a 10 or 20 year regression for the state of the art, unfortunately.

# ? Jan 2, 2021 15:02

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

qsvui posted:

people use linux???

Pretty much everything that isn't a desktop Windows PC or an iPhone runs Linux

# ? Jan 2, 2021 15:03

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

iphone also runs a linux

# ? Jan 2, 2021 17:12

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

iOS is NOT linux!

It's derived from Mac OS X, which in turn is a continuation of NeXTStep, a UNIX-like OS running on the Mach microkernel. linux is a monolithic kernel cooked up in a crazy finn's garage and patched six ways from sunday by a bunch of mega corps that are too cheap to properly license a real UNIX.

# ? Jan 2, 2021 17:19

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

bsd, also, is a linux

# ? Jan 2, 2021 17:24