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Guavanaut posted:Keir Shatner. both famous for having the people wearing red getting absolutely destroyed
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Endjinneer posted:From the study: the plan remains to prioritize the Phase 1 group, but the problem with classifying everyone >age 50 in Phase 1 is that the median age of the UK is that's a lot of people the plan for 'everyone else' remains zero doses, at least until Phase 1 is done * ed: whoops. Point stands. ronya fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:Jon Ronson’s book was a long time ago now, I believe he’s now explicitly added “Jews” to the list of people behind all that ails the world, along with the lizard people and so on. Afterword is basically "thank gently caress I wrote this in 2000, when you could still depict a Muslim extremist leader (Omar Bakri) as a kind of casual bigot but not especially frightening or competent, rather than them all being superterrorists in mountain fortresses" (at least until Four Lions) and further notes about a minor internet loudmouth called Alex Jones who pops up in several unrelated chapters to fall on his rear end (also Jones hated Icke for "making people think it was about lizard aliens instead of the real satanic NWO globalists" lol). Icke at the point of the afterword still seemed purely on the lizard bus, but it's a shame that the afterword was 2014 (although I guess that tracks well with the book itself being 2000), because the "decent people don't want hooded robes, Hitler, and the n-word, they want the same politics in a button down shirt" bit from the 'New Klan' section predicted the 'peaceful ethnic cleansing' of the rise of the alt-right in 2015-16 perfectly and I'd have liked to have seen something on that in there. Julio Cruz posted:both famous for having the people wearing red getting absolutely destroyed 
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Shatner is a colossal Trumpian prick. Even if you hate Trek in all its form, The Captains is still a worthwhile watch because it shows him in all his glory as an oblivious narcissist freak. It's like a Christopher Guest meets David Brent meets Alan Partridge thing, and it's clear everyone he interacts with despises him. Plus he spends the whole doc shilling for Bombardier private jets in the most hilariously transparent way, it's amazing. E: forgot it also has a scene with Avery Brooks psychologically assaulting Shatner through the medium of jazz piano, which has one of the most powerful energies of anything ever put on film Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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Julio Cruz posted:both famous for having the people wearing red getting absolutely destroyed And having a co worker that's completely devoid of emotion
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I've been criticised for mixing up viruses and bacteria before  e: Failed Imagineer posted:Avery Brooks psychologically assaulting Shatner through the medium of jazz piano
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Sorry Keir, the public mood says that you have to resign at 4pm tomorrow. For the good of the country I believe. chop chop
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Guavanaut posted:_____\ Good boy  Guavanaut posted:I am keen to know more. Impossible to explain more in words
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Endjinneer posted:From the study: Pretty good thread from an immune biologist: https://mobile.twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/status/1345086669607890945
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knox_harrington posted:Pretty good thread from an immune biologist: Thanks for that, crystallises my views on this which i was avoiding posting about due to phone posting limitations
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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1345152869062864902?s=20# These tweets are from october, is it still true? I got some UK orders to process next week and the boss said to treat it as VAT 0% and a sale outside the EU. EDIT: Oh wait, just saw one tweet is recent, well that's hosed then.
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I find it difficult to parse the stupid government language but from reading the article I get the impression that if you don't provide documentation about the VAT you're paying then the goods will be stopped at customs, asuming they get checked.quote:Compliance arrangements and invoicing Though how this proposes to ensure that companies actually pay the money to the UK government after billing the customer for it is... not clear. For things like Amazon presumably it would be domestic tax fraud if their accounts didn't match up, though lol @ that being enforced. And for people selling direct or using an online marketplace not registered in the UK... I have no idea? Presumably if they don't make their records available to HMRC they will no longer be allowed to sell to people in the UK, which obviously is what most of them are doing anyway because it's not worth the hassle. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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knox_harrington posted:Pretty good thread from an immune biologist: Her argument is "Well we can't produce more vaccine, so how do we choose the less risky between giving everyone one dose, or giving 50% of people two doses?" Instead of looking at it as "How do we increase vaccine production" by say, temporarily nationalising vaccine production so that instead of paying pfizer billions, we start making it at the cost of ibuprofen? Ah right, because that's socialism and socialism makes baby Shkreli cry.
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Also re: tax - one of the things I make a pittance from is Amazon self pub, and once a year I have to send my british tax ID off to them, otherwise they hold a huge chunk of my royalties to pay tax in the relevant country. There is a tax agreement between the UK and the US for things like that, though maybe for the trade of physical goods the rules are different. The irony of Amazon checking that I'm paying tax is not lost on me.
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thespaceinvader posted:Like... how the gently caress does the UK propose to enforce it? OwlFancier posted:I find it difficult to parse the stupid government language but from reading the article I get the impression that if you don't provide documentation about the VAT you're paying then the goods will be stopped at customs, asuming they get checked.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I mean yes, but it still boils down to an increased risk because the capitalist system is weighting money over human lives. This is not really true. She is being purely pragmatic on how to maximise the benefit from the available drug. Even if the UK government nationalised Pfizer or whatever the time for tech transfer to make the actual product isn't going to make any impact on drug availability for ~6 months, and if they decided not to play ball then way longer. AZ unusually stared large scale production in March ahead of having any results to have 400m doses available in 2021. I don't work in CMC and don't know the full details of mRNA vaccine process but with complex medicines it's not enough to know the chemical formula to make the product so you can't really say "thanks now we're making NHS vaccine"
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Regarde Aduck posted:I don't know if this is a money thing. As far as I know they're getting billions thrown at them. They're surely running at capacity? Well there was that thing about third world countries asking for the copyrights on the vaccines to be waived so they could produce it themselves. This was vetoed because capitalism, obvs. But it suggests there is certainly capacity that isn't being utilised. Edit: Convex posted:everything is fine, no need to be concerned. OK, who had the Darkest Dungeon re-surfacing on their 2021 Bingo card? Own up. Umbra Dubium fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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Umbra Dubium posted:Well there was that thing about third world countries asking for the copyrights on the vaccines to be waived so they could produce it themselves. I’m just picking up on this as it’s the second tine it’s been mentioned: it’s a patent, not copyright. Copyright refers to artistic or creative works; patents to inventions. Copyright is created automatically whereas patents have to be registered.
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As a big fan of Deep Space 9 I recommend never seeking out footage of Avery Brooks in real life as it will permanantly ruin your perception of Sisco as an incredibly serious military commander. It will however make the whole wormhole messiah prophet thing make a lot more sense.
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Umbra Dubium posted:OK, who had the Darkest Dungeon re-surfacing on their 2021 Bingo card? Own up. In time, you will learn the tragic extent of my failings.
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Mr Phillby posted:As a big fan of Deep Space 9 I recommend never seeking out footage of Avery Brooks in real life as it will permanantly ruin your perception of Sisco as an incredibly serious military commander. My impression of him was always that in-universe he had a massive flair for the theatrical and merely enjoyed pretending to be incredibly serious for dramatic effect. Sisko is just Garak with different tastes.
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Josef bugman posted:In time, you will learn the tragic extent of my failings.  This caption on Boris' "great year for Britain" tweet.
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Dunno how legal it is but someone's uploaded Wayne June of Darkest Dungeon reading 'At the Mountains of Madness' to youtube and it's fuckin excellent. It's also not hard to find Jeffrey Combs reading 'Herbert West - Re-Animator' which is perfection. Both recordings seem to have the horrid little snips of racism edited out.
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