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Rockman Reserve posted:Nice. I got a set ordered and even after shipping it was cheaper than any other option I've seen so far. The two forces in the box work just fine as a 12 man team - just leave out the big guys and star players (or hell leave em in!) But it depends if you're playing with someone who wants to use gold values or if you're just putting men on the field and playing
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It's strangely beginner-averse, with some quite technical models to put together, teams and special players that are chock full of special rules and no pre-set rosters. I guess this is the second season though, if newbies wanted an easy game then they shoulda bought the first version! When I start showing the game to my wife, I'm basically going to pretend the Nobles team doesn't exist - they can be normal, straightforward humans instead. The pigtail linesmen as catchers, a thrower or two, two or three blitzers and the rest linesmen. Then the ogre as a "treat" once the rest of the game makes sense...
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Obviously I'm still learning it but I played with two people yesterday with ultra-simplified rules (no Big Guys or star players, no fouls, the only skill we used was Dodge for the block roll results, and we did four-turn halves because we just wanted to learn the basics) and it went SURPRISINGLY well, especially since my wife had been eyeing the big hardcover rulebook with a lot of suspicion all week. e: worth noting I was inspired to teach it this way by aping the Blood Bowl 2 PC game which does the same thing - although BB2PC's first tutorial game or two doesn't even automatically cause a turnover when an activation goes wrong, which I think swung too hard in the other direction since that's a pretty simple and incredibly important game mechanic Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jan 5, 2021 |
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That's very encouraging! I think my wife is under the impression that all the figures need to be painted before we can play, might have to remedy that...
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the two teams in the box have a pretty strange matchup. all of the black orcs have grab but the other team has players with stand firm. fend is also pretty good vs slow players with brawler.
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OH NOOOOOOoooooo
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Jan 3, 2021 23:05
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what games workshop game is that
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Bottom Liner posted:what games workshop game is that 
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That amount of card decks... yep, definitely an FFG game. (  )
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I know you said GW but I couldn't help it I own the base version of the game, but we've only played it twice - it takes an AGE to set up. Also the Warrior and Mage were totally broken - they had extra movement abilities that made them so much better than any other class we had to ban them for our second game. The minis were fun to paint though - the Warcraft gnolls are one of my favorite visual interpretations of gnolls, and it had a Troll Rogue mini when it was what I played in the MMO
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How well do ogres play in new blood bowl? I loved playing them in the pc game and might be getting into tabletop.
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relatively little has changed for ogres. ogres got a decent buff in BB2016 in that unskilled gnoblars do not count for TTV, and that's bigger than any buff ogres got in the 2020 edition.Cease to Hope posted:I ended up typing up a bunch of words on how teams have changed in BB2020 based on a look at the rules without playtesting and I thought you folks would be interested too.
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Rockman Reserve posted:For Blood Bowl, are there any like quick-start rosters for the Season 2 box set teams to jump in and play an exhibition game? Or am I going to actually have to sit down and draft them both out? I have a spreadsheet, which has my first take on setting up all the teams. Needs another revision applying Dedicated Fans. I should hopefully be playing my first game of the new edition this week, which might change how important I think the DF mechanic is. Slaapaav posted:the two teams in the box have a pretty strange matchup. all of the black orcs have grab but the other team has players with stand firm. fend is also pretty good vs slow players with brawler. Yeah, Grab/Stand Firm/Fend/Wrestle are some technical skills which make a really weird match-up and not one I'd put in a starter set. They've messed about with the other teams so much (directly through costs or indirectly through rules changes) that I'm not really sure who I'd put in a starter set now. TheLawinator posted:How well do ogres play in new blood bowl? I loved playing them in the pc game and might be getting into tabletop. If you can make them work in the PC game, you can probably make them work in the newer edition. Aside from the buff they got mentioned above, they also have access to a bunch of Star Players (and lost access to ones removed from the game).
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hexa posted:If you can make them work in the PC game, you can probably make them work in the newer edition. Aside from the buff they got mentioned above, they also have access to a bunch of Star Players (and lost access to ones removed from the game). they also got a new inducement that can give them a pile of journeyman gnoblars for 100K. it's really more for snotlings because of swarming, but if you play really down, it's better than anything but a wizard i think
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Marmaduke! posted:That's very encouraging! I think my wife is under the impression that all the figures need to be painted before we can play, might have to remedy that... She's right 
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TheLawinator posted:How well do ogres play in new blood bowl? I loved playing them in the pc game and might be getting into tabletop. With the improvements to TTM and the clarification that Kick Teammate is a separate action type, you can have Gnoblars flying everywhere. Using them as ammo to break apart cages now that they pinball is a surprisingly fun tactic - had a recent practice game with my goblins where just that happened and the poor goblin managed to roll Casualties on two dwarfs, KO a third, and somehow land without injury, although he did need to stand up. A bit of an unlikely scenario, but it was hilarious and steeled my resolve to play them in the upcoming season.
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TheLawinator posted:How well do ogres play in new blood bowl? I loved playing them in the pc game and might be getting into tabletop. its the worst team in the game before they added the new snotling team who might be even worse? old tier list: every other team stunty tier: goblins, halflings ogre tier: ogres that said both goblins and halflings can be very competitive when coached by someone who is very experienced with the specialised tactics needed for those teams but ive never seen anyone do well with ogres in the era where they only have access to 6 ogres. old ogre teams could be monsters at super high tv when they could fill the entire roster with them.
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Zaphod42 posted:She's right Not empty quoting.
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Normally I am all for painting guys before they go on the table to avoid a sea of bleak gray plastic (honestly, that straight up turned me off of the local 'serious' WarMaHordes clique - just tables and tables of totally bare plastic and metal) but I kinda liked the aesthetic of the nice colored plastic from the BB S2 box  Certainly worked well enough for teaching basic game concepts.Also, it might be worth mentioning that my wife rolled something like four 6s in a row on crucial D6 rolls. She might be some kind of wizard, I think, but either way that might have explained her enjoyment of the game so far.
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Rockman Reserve posted:
This was also my experience playing the intro game of Necromunda with my wife, very first game and she puts a lasgun beam through my leader's head at long range and he died "I don't know why you think I'd find it difficult to learn" 
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Yeast posted:This was also my experience playing the intro game of Necromunda with my wife, very first game and she puts a lasgun beam through my leader's head at long range and he died LOL. This always happens when I try and teach someone Infinity. I try and explain why this is a very bad situation and player X has a tiny chance of success, and boom, they immediately roll a critical hit and swing it round.
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Genghis Cohen posted:LOL. This always happens when I try and teach someone Infinity. I try and explain why this is a very bad situation and player X has a tiny chance of success, and boom, they immediately roll a critical hit and swing it round. This was invariably what happened to me when I used to be big in X Wing and would teach new players at my local store. New Player Luck is a thing.
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thocan posted:New Player Luck is a thing. Thank goodness. Otherwise, nobody would play our dumb games with us.
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Does anyone here have thoughts on Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game? Do people play it? How does it compare to 40k or AOS in terms of complexity and battle sizes? How do the minis compare to the more mainstream GW stuff? I ask because I am getting an itch to paint some dudes up that I will likely never find someone to play against. I’ve dabbled in WarmaHordes in the past but never messed with anything games workshop and am wondering whether MESBG should be on my radar or if I should just find another high fantasy themed game Instead?
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I really enjoy the models, though the range is sort of infamous for having both the most gorgeous models in the Citadel range and also some of the worst. Availability for certain models is spotty, especially recently, so keep an eye on what you want and order it when it's in stock if you can. As for the game, I can't really comment on complexity compared to other GW games as I haven't played anything aside from Blood Bowl in years. But it's really not that bad when I compare it to other skirmish games. Some of the design features are a bit old school, like comparing Strength to Defense on a chart to determine target numbers, but it was always intended to be a game with at most a couple dozen models per side. There's a version of the game that adapts it for rank and flank, but I don't have any experience with that. You do have to track a few things for heroes since they have pools of abilities that can let them cast a certain number of spells or reroll dice, but three sets of colored gems or tokens that you can put on a reference card with the hero's name and abilities on it should have you sorted. It was released around 6th edition Warhammer Fantasy and 3rd edition 40k and compared to those, was considered the best designed of the three. You can read through my previous posts in the thread to see some nifty models I painted.
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Speaking of, I painted these three recently. Pretty happy with my results.
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After a while away from painting, I finally got to crack into the Dread Pageant. With the new Slaanesh line, I have no idea how someone would paint up a whole army of these guys.   With the Slaves to Darkness warband dropping in a couple weeks, it seems wild that they haven't showed us the all Skinks from next month's warband yet.
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Hekk posted:Does anyone here have thoughts on Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game? Do people play it? How does it compare to 40k or AOS in terms of complexity and battle sizes? How do the minis compare to the more mainstream GW stuff? It's such a cool game. The best way to look at it, to me, is that it's closer to one of those historical games than to a balanced tournament game like Warmahordes or 40k. That's not to say that it CAN'T be that, but I think the game really shines when you and a couple of friends are really dedicated to the lore and decided to build towards certain scenarios and campaigns as opposed to building standard tournament style lists or whatever. As far as "do people play it" man, that's really random and dependent on your local scene. If no one does, take the approach from historicals and paint up both sides and set up a demo game or convince your friends to play a game or 2 with you. Rules-wise, I'd say it's a step down from in complexity from 40k and about on par with AoS (both of which I adore for different reasons). It also scales pretty well in terms of game size and there's plenty of room to run different types of lists, like a smaller mostly (or all) Fellowship list of a couple of models or a big horde of goblins or somewhere in between. The starter set is a really good deal and gives a bunch of nice models. Get that and it'll give you a good amount of models to let you see if the game's right for you.
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 Hobbit-postin'!!! Worked on Eowyn and started a test goblin!  MESBG scales way better than 40K in our experience - of course huge huge battles are still gonna take a while, but it handles very small 5 model per side games as well as 30 per side. Echoing the above poster as well that the line has the #1 best sculpts GW has as well as the #1 worst Like this is 100% Bernard Hill at 25mm and is completely recognizable in image and on the table:  And then there's some rough 1-part sculpts where their "arms are filled in" (hard to explain but if you've seen it you know what I mean), or just really soft rough details: 
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Have some more Lord of the Rings photos. I am very proud of my work on these. The scale is also way better than 28mm+ heroic stuff. I have 72 goblins. You know, just in case.  Theoden and Eomer are two of my favorite sculpts from the recent range.  These are some very hard to get Rohan Royal Guard.  Rangers  I think this gets at what the above poster was saying with regards to blending of areas. The elbow, shoulder, and arm all sort of run together and there aren't really clear distinctions between them. But when you have 30-40 of them on a battlefield, things like that don't stand out. It really feels like they were only ever intended to be looked at from one angle. 
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Well, guess I'm picking up the Pelennor Fields box eventually, those models are too good.
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NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:Well, guess I'm picking up the Pelennor Fields box eventually, those models are too good. Yeah, it is a fantastic box. I definitely treat LOTR as a historical but it has a small skirmish ruleset that is really fun.
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:With the Slaves to Darkness warband dropping in a couple weeks, it seems wild that they haven't showed us the all Skinks from next month's warband yet. The Seraphon warband is definitely my most anticipated Underworlds release. Is it still slated for release next month?
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There was an announcement of a delay for the 40k Codex release schedule in December and I would not be shocked to see a similar announcement for Warbands but I haven't seen one yet. I love the Seraphon warband so far but I'm crossing my fingers for an Idoneth warband too
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I finished painting up my godshunt dark oath whatever they are called for Underworlds: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJu8hsPHAll/?igshid=xchn24x7js37
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Lizards incoming Had hoped for a Kroxigor but oh well. Not sure how much I like the "nose" they've given the skinks, makes them look more mammal-y Also something that looks like a Vampire (Coast?) 
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 my flame and blast templates should be arriving today and I just printed a bunch more terrain and designed and printed some nice lil vision arc templates, I'm going to Necromunda it the gently caress up this weekend
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Slightly underwhelmed by the rest of the warband, since I had also hoped for a Kroxigor and the Saurus looks a little underwhelming, but still really like them. Can't wait to paint these guys crazy neon colours.
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Kill Team got Indomitus rules and a new expansion teaser. It's not dead yet lol.
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