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CharlestheHammer posted:Okay we are seeing more official tournament results and it’s actually suprising. Not only are proper traps in the format but rogue decks are topping fairly regularly. It's really strange, people were getting these giant fuckoff boards before Linkross was even printed using the Halq/Auroradon combo, but I guess the Jet Synchron/O-Lion ban actually solved that problem? I really don't understand why that didn't come back in force.
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It was definitely the goto way to easily poo poo out materials without running into any xeno locks. Drytron have the potential to get ridiculous but they lock you to nomis so thats a bottleneck on boards building. Zoos can be troublesome but everyone knows them front to back so you can totally sidedeck against them very easily. Theyre not at fullpower, 4 of their core pieces used to dominate the meta are at 1, so they wont top the meta. And with the recent resurgence those are definitely not going off the list. Virtual world seemed like the new hotness but lack consistency, despite the sheer power of VFD. Bricks 4 dayz. This is less of an issue in the OCG (for all decks) because of Maxx C. The meta will probably shake up with some rogues and old faces climbing the ladder. This is good. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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Well the main meta deck is Zoo eldlich but that deck has consistency issues as well. It’s very easy to only see one side of your deck. Also dogmatics is weird as it’s mainly used to give rogue a huge power boost but doesn’t do that much for meta.
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Anyone have a shortlist of good budget staples? (Effect Veiler, Solemn Judgment, et al.)
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PMush Perfect posted:Anyone have a shortlist of good budget staples? (Effect Veiler, Solemn Judgment, et al.) You could grab the hand traps from Duel Devastator, the Solemn Package, Nibiru has a $9 printing now, Dark Ruler No More, Psy-Framegear Gamma off the top of my head.
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King of Solomon posted:Duel Devastator Now to just decide which budget deck I actually want to make. I've been considering Lunalights, since the price of them crashed after the Wolf ban and I love the flavor, but I imagine they're probably hot garbage now.
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Shaddolls and Dinos are pretty budget because of the structure decks. They won’t be meta because they need some more expensive stuff to supplement them but with duel devastate you can make a functioning deck with either
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Cool. I did a tiny bit more Googling and research. If I want to be lazy and get as few random singles as possible, how would this shopping list be? 3x Dinomasher's Fury 1x Duel Devastator Box 3x Double Evolution Pill 3x Overtex Quoatus Anything else I'm obviously missing (aside from sleeves and a deckbox)? Any other extra deck staples besides the ones in the box? girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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PMush Perfect posted:Cool. I did a tiny bit more Googling and research. If I want to be lazy and get as few random singles as possible, how would this shopping list be? So here's the one thing I need to warn you about before you spend your money. Duel Devastator has ONE of each of the cards in its contents. If you wanted to get a playset of any of the set's contents, you're going to need to either buy three copies of Duel Devastator or load up on singles of the extras you need.
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King of Solomon posted:So here's the one thing I need to warn you about before you spend your money. Duel Devastator has ONE of each of the cards in its contents. If you wanted to get a playset of any of the set's contents, you're going to need to either buy three copies of Duel Devastator or load up on singles of the extras you need. I miss sitting in front of another person while I play Mornington Crescent with them. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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PMush Perfect posted:That seems okay, for the most part? If I find there's something like a hand trap I need more of, I can pick a couple up later? Yeah, and most of the hand traps should be cheap enough. I'm just giving you a heads up in case you buy a box expecting a full playset of the ghost girls or something.
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King of Solomon posted:Yeah, and most of the hand traps should be cheap enough. I'm just giving you a heads up in case you buy a box expecting a full playset of the ghost girls or something.
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i have purchased 3 dinosmasher's fury structure decks for 69 australian dollars (nice)
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World Legacy Lore Facts: dingirsu is Avram This concludes World Legacy Lore Facts
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...n-no? Dingirsu is a completely separate character.
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When he said "Check THIS out!", what did you think he was referring to? Obviously the ability to become a giant golden centaur. furthermore, [My actual reasoning is as follows: - Lee, along with the other Crusadias, built the Mekk-Knight of the Morning Star (biblical reference to Lucifer) in World Legacy's Memories. Lee and the Morning Star are both associated with silver in contrast to the rainbow colors of the other Mekk-Knights. - Dingirsu is the 'Orcust of the Evening Star' (deliberate reversal of Morning Star) and has elements of Mekk-Knight design, most notably his head. - Avram has already shown a predilection for gold, centaurs and mekk-knights, what with his color scheme, his name being a variation on the Latin 'aurum' for gold, his crusadia form being a centaur, and inheriting the power of Mekk-Knight Blue Sky. - The being created when Lee and Avram combine their powers is Avida, the "Twin Star God" in the original Japanese, which is a reference to Lee being the Morning Star and Avram being the Evening Star, and is made up of contrasting colors of gold and silver. The other, more boring answer is that Dingirsu is an automaton built by Longirsu in the image of Avram the same way he built Galatea in the image of Ib, but the part where a whole bunch of cards are dedicated to the latter and the former doesn't come up at all is...weird, given that Galatea is an explicit reference to the Greek myth of the same name and also the myth of Orpheus (which is part of the Orcust's Japanese name), and Avram is neither Ningirsu's lost love or dead. Obviously Dingirsu has a lot of visual reference to Longirsu himself with the World Legacy Shield and Lance but the part where he's a gold mekk-knight centaur, the three traits associated by the World Legacy setting with Avram, stands out to me, especially when Longirsu shows up later as a mekk-knight and is less gold and not a centaur.]
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Those bits where Longirsu shows up later are after everything resets and he decides to protect the world. He's explicitly Dingirsu (he's also all the other Girsu's at different points in life). The order is Yugipedia posted:"Beckoned by the World Chalice" → "Ningirsu the World Chalice Warrior" → "Longirsu, the Orcust Orchestrator" → "Dingirsu, the Orcust of the Evening Star" → "Girsu, the Orcust Mekk-Knight". Also it shows him making it on Orcust Crescendo. He presumably shows up later as not a centaur and less gold because the centaur body got broken. The Avrum order is as follows Yugipedia posted:"Chosen by the World Chalice" → "Auram the World Chalice Blademaster" → "Mekk-Knight Avram" → "Crusadia Maximus" → "Crusadia Equimax" → "Mekk-Knight Crusadia Avramax" Notably, Mekk-Knight Crusadia Avramax is in the World Legacy Cliffhanger art (a terrible translation, it should be climax). This was also all explicitly spelled out in official konami lore books that they sold and were subsequently translated. None of the crusadias were involved in making Mekk-Knight Morningstar either, that's why it's memories. That's just Lee, remembering a long time ago when she was researching the World Legacies, with her fellow scientists. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Is this a bad time to tell you we have an official lore guide for the World Legacy storyline?  https://ygorganization.com/atinytaleoftimeconcerningwarbetweenfriends/ Dingy is gold (or brass, rather) because it's literally made from all of the remaining Orcust. ('Check THIS out!' is one of the dumbest loving changes the TCG has ever made and I am STILL incredibly salty over it.  )EDIT: MAGMAR!
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Vandar posted:Is this a bad time to tell you we have an official lore guide for the World Legacy storyline? BEATEN FOOL!
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I hope your dumb old robots rust away.
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Vandar posted:I hope your dumb old robots rust away. Nothing rusts the Ancient Gears.
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custom card  https://imgur.com/a/J9o3afj
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ungulateman posted:custom card Navigate Guardian is an excellent pun.
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Here's a highly tentative pure Ursarctic build I've finagled together that I think I might try to make once the deck build pack containing them comes out in the TCG: Fun fact: while the in-theme monsters are 'dark synchros', you can also synchro summon using the level 8 tuners and the level 1 dark synchro to make regular level 9 synchros, so you get access to the cool pile of level 9s that virtual world is currently running around with. you can even resummon shenshen if you have a hand trap in the graveyard since none of them overlap with the ursarctics at all! more importantly: robot bears ungulateman fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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I wanna say I'd seen Deep Sea Diva and Neptabyss the Atlantean Prince used in bears as well, because Diva can grab Nepty and go into the level 1 without too much hassle. Lithium did a video on it here, though even he was kinda iffy on it because you just keep going negative in order to make basic plays.
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Theres a bunch of decks that can go into polari super fast. Fun fact since polaris' summon isnt a synchro summon, all those monsters with the "cant be used as synchro material" would work. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Jan 28, 2021 |
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Thought experiment time. What ATK would a monster with no abilities need to have to be playable, assuming it can be normal summoned and doesn't have any specific interactions to bring it out for free? How much bigger than Gene-Warped Warwolf does it have to be?
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  The answer is 4000.
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ungulateman posted:Thought experiment time. What ATK would a monster with no abilities need to have to be playable, assuming it can be normal summoned and doesn't have any specific interactions to bring it out for free? How much bigger than Gene-Warped Warwolf does it have to be? I feel like we can rule out just a raw attack boost at all, honestly. Remember that we've got a small stock of normal summonable big-boy beaters with downsides that would be a lot less bad now (Jirai Gumo and the like), and similarly normal summonable monsters that can spike in attack power briefly (Injection Fairy Lily for example), and those don't see play. You'd probably need the monster to be in some way searchable by the right archetype. The thing's not gonna last long when it does hit the field, but if it had the reliability to turn up in the hand at the right time it could see some niche play. Some archetypes could benefit from being able to slap down a big boy that could punch some teeth in right out the gate, he just needs to be reliably called on. EDIT: or 4k, I suppose, yeah.
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You could do some law of the normal casual deck for funsies. I used to run normals in a Pacifis deck but there's better ways to run that now. Still, heat wave is amazing.
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ungulateman posted:Thought experiment time. What ATK would a monster with no abilities need to have to be playable, assuming it can be normal summoned and doesn't have any specific interactions to bring it out for free? How much bigger than Gene-Warped Warwolf does it have to be? Probably around 1500 to 1600 if it's in a deck where it can get attack boosted easily(like say Water decks with stuff like The Legendary Ocean in it), if we have to take it completely isolated then probably 1800
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drrockso20 posted:Probably around 1500 to 1600 if it's in a deck where it can get attack boosted easily(like say Water decks with stuff like The Legendary Ocean in it), if we have to take it completely isolated then probably 1800 Maybe for the Metal Raiders format 
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ungulateman posted:Thought experiment time. What ATK would a monster with no abilities need to have to be playable, assuming it can be normal summoned and doesn't have any specific interactions to bring it out for free? How much bigger than Gene-Warped Warwolf does it have to be? drrockso20 posted:Probably around 1500 to 1600 if it's in a deck where it can get attack boosted easily(like say Water decks with stuff like The Legendary Ocean in it), if we have to take it completely isolated then probably 1800 Charles Bukowski posted:Maybe for the Metal Raiders format 
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Charles Bukowski posted:Maybe for the Metal Raiders format Well I meant for bare minimum of being usable, honestly I miss the days when the average deck was mostly "beater" monsters with just enough of other types of card or archetype variance to add spice to each deck, was much more fun to play or watch than the average meta for the game has been since I came back to it a couple years ago(where it basically ends up being solitaire if the person making the deck who goes first was reasonably competent at it and the other person doesn't have a lucky starting hand to counterit) And yes I know Duel Links is a thing but that just feels way less satisfying than the real thing or even playing on an online simulator
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drrockso20 posted:Well I meant for bare minimum of being usable, honestly I miss the days when the average deck was mostly "beater" monsters with just enough of other types of card or archetype variance to add spice to each deck, was much more fun to play or watch than the average meta for the game has been since I came back to it a couple years ago(where it basically ends up being solitaire if the person making the deck who goes first was reasonably competent at it and the other person doesn't have a lucky starting hand to counterit)
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PMush Perfect posted:Have you heard of Goat Format? There's a reason I advocate so hard for the main game to have a hard reboot and not just as a side format
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I've been getting really into watching Youtube videos of people playing weirdass formats, and it's made me realize that anyone who's big on Goat Format is not being creative enough. There are way more interesting formats. I've especially been enjoying Cimo's two different 'historical' series right now. The History of Yu-Gi-Oh is him and MBT going through and making period-accurate 'meta' decks at every significant point in the game's life; the last video was Invasion of Chaos pre-banlist update, which I'd probably call the tail end of Goat Format, and it's interesting how little variance there is in that era; most good decks in any given format were about 70% just the same cards unless they were doing a gimmick like Exodia or Magical Scientist. Meanwhile the Progression Series is him and Nhymnim going through and building decks one booster pack box at a time. They're up to the early Synchro era, and honestly if I were to pick any era to freeze at and play forever it'd probably be that one. Archetypes are getting plentiful enough and good enough to actually be playable relatively cheaply, but it's also still possible to play a 'good cards with a game plan' hodge-podge deck and see success.
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