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NotJustANumber99 posted:https://yougov.co.uk/topics/education/survey-results/daily/2020/12/30/2ac0b/3 Ta, with this piece of evidence that yet again directly contradicts what they’re saying, surely this time I’ll persuade them to listen to me!
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Jose posted:Lol the judge specifically cited Jeffrey Epstein I was just about to say that case seemed particularly relevant.
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Jose posted:They're going to run out of money eventually I was going to make a comment that I would be surprised if a right win hate rag supported by the rich backers using it for political gains could run out of money. Then I realized its the Jewish Chronicle, and such a comment would be Antisemitic.....
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Jose posted:Lol the judge specifically cited Jeffrey Epstein 'Like Mr Epstein, Mr Assange could be "at risk of suicide" ' /the judge has put on some giant kenny everett preacher hands but they are making air quotes
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Jan 4, 2021 12:30
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Lol https://twitter.com/Aiannucci/status/1346033721749725185?s=19
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Jan 4, 2021 12:31
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What... does he think a government of national unity is for..? What does he think it is??? The government already has a majority.
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Jan 4, 2021 12:33
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Iannucci, like one of his most famous comic creations Malcolm Tucker, is too smart for normal politics 
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Rabelais D posted:You do this - full lockdown for a month, and you make every single arrival into your country stay in a quarantine hotel by themselves for two weeks. And you make sure transport from airport to the hotel is in a quarantine bus, not a taxi or whatever. The other thing unique to China is how "community" security works. In cities everywhere has community security guards, whether a shopping mall, tourist district, residential block (poor and rich). While normally they just sit there smoking/sleeping/playing on their phones, it made it [i]incredibly easy to enforce some sort of lockdown rapidly as these guards could be used for access control, and e.g. could be asked to check permits or your 'health code' (a red/yellow/green code on your phone based on your travel history). In Beijing, for example, you had to get issued an entry/exit card for your residence block; they would check it upon entry as a way to ensure that guests weren't sneaking in etc. I also agree this sort of "short and sharp" approach if taken in the UK and elsewhere would have been more effective than what we have now, but we have to recognise some of the unique aspects of China's system that allowed them to do it (and, in general, a compliant, rule-following population). I also don't get our aversion to closing our borders like e.g. China has. I flew in 3 weeks ago and not a single check upon arrival except flashing my phone to show I had done the passenger locator form (which I could have filled in with any old crap). Ewan fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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I fully buy the idea of Keir speed-running Ramsay MacDonald and splitting the labour party for a generation without even getting into power first.
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the kids in korea downvoted the app they had to use for homework while on lockdown it got taken off the app store lol
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OwlFancier posted:What... does he think a government of national unity is for..? What does he think it is??? The Tories may have a majority, but does Boris? A government of national unity is for situations where the current PM is manifestly not up to the job, but retains enough personal support that the governing party alone can’t cleanly get rid of him using internal procedures. So the opposition decides to accept some concessions, typically a ministry or two, in return for their intervention in an intra-party struggle. Most notably this was the way Boris’s hero Churchill got the job as PM, following the Norway debates at which Chamberlain won a narrow majority. Which was ‘seen’ by the powers-that-be as insufficient to fight a war on. I can imagine few things more poetic than the same procedure being used to end Boris’s career.
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Jan 4, 2021 12:54
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Presumably its a way to get rid of Boris? Why are Boris and his crew in the papers saying that things are going to get worse and stricter in the future? Surely if we know that, it makes sense to just get stricter now?
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The government is doing whatever it wants to do at every instance, it does not need more MPs to vote for its ideas, it also does not have any significant policy divergence with labour on the subject because labour does nothing but support the government or propose minor adjustments to their policies. The concept is nonsense, it is meaningless drivel spoken by an idiot who can only repeat phrases he doesn't understand in the hopes that it will appease the gods and bring rains and a good harvest.
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To do what? The Tories have a majority and the opposition isn't saying anything that disagrees with them. We essentially have a GONU. This is just a liberal saying "This is a big problem so we need a BIG empty gesture".
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Jan 4, 2021 13:03
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Jose posted:So the judge agreed that assange committed the crimes he was accused of just that he'd kill himself if extradited. Great precedent what are the crimes
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Covid chat: (i) vaccination roll-out to elderly persons first - I assumed that this was so if there was some undetected problem with the vaccine, then if the very elderly start to snuff it, no one will be overly exercised about it unlike if, say, a nurse or teacher got it, so 'beta testing' in a way. (ii) Bubbles - I can't work out if people are really not understanding or deliberately not understanding the concept. Example: After going to church yesterday morning, mother came round unannounced. I opened my windows and put on my face mask and made her a cup of tea. "Now I'm in your bubble" she said "and before I go home, I'm going to pop in on {one of my adult nieces} so I'll be in her bubble" (mother lives on her own so is allowed a bubble) "IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT" I said "you have to pick one bubble and THAT IS YOUR BUBBLE FOR EVER AND EVER AMEN". I said pick my sister to bubble with because she and her husband have a car and can take her places or go over to her stuck-half-way-up-a-hill-in-the-middle-of-nowhere house to deal with any emergencies etc. Anyway, I had to go into the bank this morning to do a transaction on behalf of mother and the cashier asked me how it was going. Then - she knows mum - "hows your mum" well that pressed a button so I had a little rant. She said her own father (similar age as my mum - 83) really didn't get the bubbles thing at all. The other cashier also chimed in - bank was empty except for me - and said some of her relatives - not just older ones - were also not comprehending the bubbles thing at all. My mother has 2 degrees and an MA so she's not thick. (iii) didn't China also literally nail people into their houses if they had covid? https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus-residents-welded-inside-their-own-home/ (iv) nearly smashed my tv this morning - put the news on - big mistake, I rarely watch tv news. Fucker Johnson claiming teachers at no more risk than general population. Let him go work with 30 snivelling, snotty, vomiting sprogs cramped in a science lab for a day and say that. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Presumably its a way to get rid of Boris? Boris would still be PM. He'd just have spend all day with people shouting at him in private to do something. Then he'd do nothing and send Starmer out on the TV to explain why doing nothing is good actually. This differs from the current situation in the following ways:
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So it seems like Assange's plan to hide in the embassy to avoid extradition to the US 'worked' in the sense that the massive delay gave us enough time to get some high profile cases that demonstrated the inhuman conditions the USA subjects politically undesirable prisoners to. I guess it also succeeded in his unstated (but main) goal of avoiding being tried for a rape he committed in Sweden. It did not succeed in actually keeping him out of jail but I guess succeeded in his second unstated but actually main life goal of staying in the public eye. Have to admit that he has suffered massively for his beliefs (that he should be treated as the one true warrior against Amerikkka and be able to sleep with women whether they consent or not).
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better opposition from this oval office than the actual opposition https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/1346063563450888192?s=20
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Yeah it's particularly poo poo at this point to blame the public for not following the rules when the rules are so (somehow simultaneously) half-arsed and complex and change so drat often
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:My mother has 2 degrees and an MA so she's not thick. Guavanaut posted:Public Health 101 - If the public don't follow the rules then either the rules weren't fit for purpose or the communication and enforcement wasn't fit for purpose.
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Jan 4, 2021 13:12
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julian assange has done more to expose the crimes of the american war machine than almost anybody and it's a good thing that he won't be extradited.
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Im still going to blame other people a bit because theyre the ones I see doing things I know I'm not allowed to.
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Jose posted:So the judge agreed that assange committed the crimes he was accused of just that he'd kill himself if extradited. Great precedent
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crispix posted:Yeah it's particularly poo poo at this point to blame the public for not following the rules when the rules are so (somehow simultaneously) half-arsed and complex and change so drat often I don't think you need the (somehow simultaneously) here. They are half arsed because they are full of exceptions and loopholes, and they're complex for the same reason.
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i don't think it's good to feed people into the gaping maw of the CIA but then again i don't want to set a precedent that we can't do that if we want to
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:
Unfortunately academic excellence does not automatically equal common sense and 'street smarts'. Jaeluni Asjil posted:(iii) didn't China also literally nail people into their houses if they had covid?
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Tarnop posted:I don't think you need the (somehow simultaneously) here. They are half arsed because they are full of exceptions and loopholes, and they're complex for the same reason. you don't generally expect something to be both so i think i'm happy enough with my op i appreciate the food for thought though!!!!!! 
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Jan 4, 2021 13:20
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Jose posted:better opposition from this oval office than the actual opposition
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Jan 4, 2021 13:23
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lol i read an article the other day about a guy who pumped $1.4bn into bitcoin https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1346038379960537089?s=20
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Jan 4, 2021 13:32
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Jose posted:lol i read an article the other day about a guy who pumped $1.4bn into bitcoin For fucksake, the last time I looked it was like $7000, at some point it got to $33500? Insanity
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Jose posted:lol i read an article the other day about a guy who pumped $1.4bn into bitcoin I might have missed something here but the article seems to say the exact opposite?
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Jose posted:lol i read an article the other day about a guy who pumped $1.4bn into bitcoin Fuckin’ A! Pulled out just in time. It was low stakes, went from £10 to £90, and it was in there for two years and bought largely as a lark but still!
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Jose posted:lol i read an article the other day about a guy who pumped $1.4bn into bitcoin Seems like it's still fine? An 8% fluctuation is nothing for bitcoin... 
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Ewan posted:Unfortunately academic excellence does not automatically equal common sense and 'street smarts'.
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There's also that blind spot people with lots of qualifications can develop where because they spend their time being an expert in their field and acting like it, they develop the mindset that they're always the expert in the room, regardless of whether it's their field of expertise or not.Jose posted:is bitcoin actually as environmentally bad as claimed I guess it depends on the severity of the claim in question, but the whole thing is based on people using computer time to do nothing of actual use to humanity. If you switched those computers off or refrained from buying bitcoin mining rigs, it'd be an environmental positive for no negative.
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Jose posted:is bitcoin actually as environmentally bad as claimed Have you seen the energy consumption of some of those dedicated mining rigs? You're talking close to £1000 of electricity per month just for each one.
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Jose posted:is bitcoin actually as environmentally bad as claimed Yeah. The savage irony about bitcoin was that it was 'supposed' to democratise fiat currency. Currently, the largest mining operation in the world is the venezuelan state (I believe) who are using subsidised/free electricity as a way to convert sanctioned oil/natural gas into $$. That's before you even get into the amount of energy needed to check that each transaction is geniune.
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