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One question I had about the finale of Season 2 : how the hell did Kreese convince Zakarian to transfer the dojo to him, considering he was bumming around in a shelter not that long ago?
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Dick Jones posted:One question I had about the finale of Season 2 : how the hell did Kreese convince Zakarian to transfer the dojo to him, considering he was bumming around in a shelter not that long ago? He beat the poo poo out of him and his “cousins.”
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Jan 4, 2021 13:58
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The weakest parts of this season were the Vietnam flashbacks and the city council scene. The best was Chozen.
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Jan 4, 2021 16:25
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My unofficial kid actor rankings, referring to the character because I'm too lazy to pull up IMDB. 1) Miguel. I rewatched season 1 and its tough to overstate how much the relationship between Miguel and Johnny grounds the show. I think the actor stumbled a bit when he had to crank up the character's assholery, but he's very very good at potraying a dude in constant conflict with himself. 2) Tori. Not the most indepth of characters, but the actress does a lot with relatively little on the page. 3) Hawk. I wish the show gave him more opportunities to reflect on how much he's turned into a rampaging rear end in a top hat, but the actor really taps into that over-the-top objectively hilarious swagger some kids in high school have. 4) Demetri. A good performance on balance. He's really good at playing the astonished "Who am I an what is my life?" scenes. 4) Robbie. He's fine, I guess. Character is a complete blank and he's competent enough. 5) Sam. Not good. As much as I want to blame this on the writing, she's just not believable and seems to be acting on a different wavelength than near anyone else.
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Jan 4, 2021 16:30
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TheCenturion posted:He beat the poo poo out of him and his “cousins.” No that was this season. Last year he convinced him to put the lease in his name and basically stole the whole thing from Johnny.
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Jan 4, 2021 16:44
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I don't think Zakarian gives a drat as long as the rent is paid. Edit: Johnny's name is still on the lease and the business license, for all I know. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Jan 4, 2021 16:49
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Johnny mocked Zakarian mid season so by the end he was happy to screw him over by giving it to Kreese.
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Jan 4, 2021 17:01
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That and Kreese was handling all the paperwork on Johnny's behalf.
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Jan 4, 2021 17:35
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Halloween Jack posted:Edit: Johnny's name is still on the lease and the business license, for all I know. I don't think so (?)
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Jan 4, 2021 17:37
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Zakarian probably rues the day he let Snake Karate into his shopping center.
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Jan 4, 2021 18:00
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Narcissus1916 posted:5) Sam. Not good. As much as I want to blame this on the writing, she's just not believable and seems to be acting on a different wavelength than near anyone else. Sam is so bad she wraps around to being good, then back around to being bad again
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Jan 4, 2021 18:39
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I find it insane that the two best actors in the show have had nowhere careers after the mid-80s. And yes, Sam is bad. She plays the character too straight. It's like she thinks she's in a Disney Channel original movie. Also I found it funny that Kreese kicked the kid off the team for losing to an "untrained" opponent who was a varsity wrestler.
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Jan 4, 2021 18:44
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I have no idea where the series could go after season 4. Assuming Terry and Kreese/Cobra Kai are defeated at the end of season 4, what bad guys would even make sense from the movies to bring back? Would Johnny take back the Cobra Kai name or would the show continue on without a Cobra Kai dojo?
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Jan 4, 2021 19:17
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Hilary Swank, in an eyepatch, appearing in the season finale to destroy Cobra Kai and Miyagi Ryu with Alpha Elite Karate.
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Jan 4, 2021 19:40
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Spacebump posted:I have no idea where the series could go after season 4. Assuming Terry and Kreese/Cobra Kai are defeated at the end of season 4, what bad guys would even make sense from the movies to bring back? Would Johnny take back the Cobra Kai name or would the show continue on without a Cobra Kai dojo? 
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Jan 4, 2021 19:47
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That's not Jaden Smith
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BiggerBoat posted:That's not Jaden Smith I think Jaden showing up is a given, isn't Smith still an EP on the show?
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Jan 4, 2021 20:23
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Jaden Smith is not going to show up. Will Smith is an EP in name only. Like how Jonathan Peters as an EP credit on a half dozen Superman related films despite never even visiting the set. It's likely Smith's involvement with the lovely remake earned him an EP credit on any and all KK related things going forward.
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Jan 4, 2021 20:29
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Johnny's all-caps FB reply to Ali is freaking amazing. There's some screen captures floating around, and it's absolute peak Johnny.
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Jan 4, 2021 21:09
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I was very into the final episode where Johnny is laying an absolute beating on Kreese only to have Robbie step in to defend his "sensei" and johnny absolutely clowning him effortlessly. You could tell his toss into those lockers wasn't malicious. The whole thing of him doing lackluster things and knocking his son out on accident was peak johnny though Also as predicted I watched the entire show in two sittings with my wife. 8 episodes the first, and the final two the next day. I love this stupid magic karate show.
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Spacebump posted:I have no idea where the series could go after season 4. Assuming Terry and Kreese/Cobra Kai are defeated at the end of season 4, what bad guys would even make sense from the movies to bring back? Would Johnny take back the Cobra Kai name or would the show continue on without a Cobra Kai dojo? The Bad Boy of Karate hooks up with Robbie! Terry Silva buys out something, I don’t know, and turns it into a pollution factory, as befits an 80s villain.
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Jan 4, 2021 21:54
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On a different note, I recommend the Cobra Kai game. Its the strangest and most surreal licensed game I've played in quite some time. Even the anime art style is endearing in a "mid 2000s newgrounds flash game" sort of way. Literally everyone shows up - and i mean EVERYONE. Tom Cole the car salesman, the landlord, even Johnny's stepdad make surprising appearances. Practically every attack is a riff from another fighting game, with Miguel screaming "Cobra Uppercut!" every other moment. My only real quibble is that playing as Cobra Kai is vastly more interesting (Johnny, Miguel, Hawk and Tori are playable) than the defense-driven Miyagi Do (Daniel, Robby, Sam, and freakin' Demetri)
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Jan 4, 2021 22:53
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Narcissus1916 posted:On a different note, I recommend the Cobra Kai game. Its the strangest and most surreal licensed game I've played in quite some time. Even the anime art style is endearing in a "mid 2000s newgrounds flash game" sort of way. Wait, it's good??? I looked at it and it looked incomprehensibly awful on like a deep fundamental level, it's on sale on PS4 right now I think
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Jan 4, 2021 23:02
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Its a suprisingly decent beat em up. Its not Streets of Rage 4 good by any means, but wayyyyy better than I thought it'd be. Even its bizarre art style grew on me (it plays better than it looks). Each "dojo" has four special powers and then each character has four unique special attacks AND a unique ultimate attack. There's dodges and counters and enemy variety and a kickin' rad 80s synth soundtrack. And again, I can't begin to explain the depths of fan service on display here. In about an hour I have a) Fought the two dudes who bothered Robby in season one by chucking mini golf balls at Golf N Stuff b) witnessed a John Kreese who is literally a carbon copy of Akuma c) Demetri plays like SubZero and d) Fought Yasmine the bully from season 1. Its the dumbest loving thing I've played in ages, and definitely worth the 25 bucks I paid for it. Just witness this nonsense - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ROlXe57dM
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Jan 4, 2021 23:16
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According to reviews the game is "surprisingly okay". It isn't going to give Streets of Rage 4 or River City Girls a run for their money but if you've managed to become bored with those games and want something new it isn't a bad choice.
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Jan 4, 2021 23:25
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Narcissus1916 posted:Just witness this nonsense - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ROlXe57dM ...okay yeah that's hecking rad
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Jan 4, 2021 23:45
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I love that this show never shies away from a fight. If there's any reason at all to have a fight scene, they'll provide.
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Normy posted:I love that this show never shies away from a fight. If there's any reason at all to have a fight scene, they'll provide. "What do you mean you're out of mint chip??" *karate chops ice cream display case*
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Normy posted:I love that this show never shies away from a fight. If there's any reason at all to have a fight scene, they'll provide. I can get behind it 100% if they manage to maintain the insanely weird balance between serious/mature and batshit goofy. Like a minimum wage jockey sees a bunch of kids steal a ton of poo poo from his job, and the correct course of action is to call his karate gang to jump them in the laser tag arena. (Also, still safer then calling the cops.) Followed up by Kreese having 0 shame to exploit the system to his advantage or absolutely emotionally manipulate a hostile audience (hello I'm capt john kreese ex green beret and vietnam vet) even if it's a classic "coward" move and treating it like it's back to real deal serious times town.
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Jan 5, 2021 04:16
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I wonder what Kreese would even be prosecuted under. That would be a hell of a case.
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Jan 5, 2021 04:21
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XboxPants posted:I wonder what Kreese would even be prosecuted under. That would be a hell of a case. absolutely nothing. the case of the missing wrestler in some midwest state it turned out he was rolled up into a wrestling mat and stuffed under the bleachers, and tons of locals readily believed "oh he probably did it to himself" because it was a championship wrestling team and the coach could do no wrong. violent sport coaches are basically untouchable unless they themselves commit a serious felony on camera.
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pentyne posted:I can get behind it 100% if they manage to maintain the insanely weird balance between serious/mature and batshit goofy. With some high speed car chases and pow camp death matches for good measure.
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pentyne posted:absolutely nothing. Kreese would easily end up in jail and losing several civil suits irl. He has hosed with way too many people.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:18
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I hope they have a scene where one of the kids turns 18 and the cops instantly appear and arrest him. No wait, that's what would actually happen. I dont want that at all.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:21
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pentyne posted:absolutely nothing. Kreese fucks with rich and powerful white people. He'd be done for.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:40
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Off the top of my head people that could bring charges or file suit against Kreese: Daniel LaRusso, Amanda LaRusso, Armand Zarkarian, Armand's cousins, Johnny Lawrence, Demetri's parents, potentially every Cobra Kai student's parents this include's Aisha's parents/her NFL father, and maybe the parents of Kyler's friend that Hawk wrecked. He could also face potential trouble for unlawful ownership of an exotic animal.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:54
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Man, I hope that one kid doesn’t flunk his trig class.
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Yeah that's what bugs me about the Season 3 premiere and finale: The dealership and Robby are both in deep poo poo as a result of the school brawl, but none of the Cobras or their parents will face any legal trouble for a brazen home invasion, assault & battery, and destruction of property well into the thousands of dollars? Tory got a slap on the wrist for what was clearly mayhem and assault with a deadly weapon. And the LaRussos are just gonna forego legal action in favor of a tournament? A dinky little trophy isn't going to settle poo poo at this point, because we all know Cobra Kai will lose, then proceed to get big mad, and then go on another destructive warpath. After the fallout from Season 2, it's time for police reports, lawsuits, restraining orders, and security cameras (installing them at the house & dojo after the first vandalism incident would have been a great idea). Whatever it takes to escape the personal slight -> escalation -> life-altering brawl -> dojo confrontation -> "we'll settle this at the tournament" treadmill. Or just keep trying to kick the same football until Tory ghost rides a truck bomb into the dealership, killing several LaRussos, Anoush, and a newlywed couple. A heinous act for which she will recieve 6 months probation.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Kreese fucks with rich and powerful white people. He'd be done for. He'll end up pissing off Johnny's stepdad and that'll somehow be his downfall. My only real complaint about this season is that I can't stand the Sam and Tori rivalry stuff. Aside from that, it was another fun season. Okay, my other complaint is that we ran out of episodes.
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Dick Jones posted:Whatever it takes to escape the personal slight -> escalation -> life-altering brawl -> dojo confrontation -> "we'll settle this at the tournament" treadmill. that's the entire karate kid filmography though so if it was different it would he a different show? It's not Ibsen yeah but it's a reboot of an 80s karate movie trilogy idk what they could have given us that didn't fit this pattern and that would also have given people the warm nostalgia fuzzies that contribute to the show's success? I would be into a show with more realistic fallout I guess, but more than that, I just want Terry Silver the Captain Planet villain to show up next season with some idiotic and convoluted plan, and it's probably gonna follow that same personal slight -> escalation -> life-altering brawl -> dojo confrontation -> "we'll settle this at the tournament" pattern. It's gonna be Robbie vs Miguel in the finals for season 4, Robbie wins with a bunch of Evil Cobra Kai Sith poo poo From The War, setting up a final season to wrap things up.
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