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Ewan posted:Modern electric ones are alright (the ones that look similar to induction hobs; i.e. a big flat black surface). They don't suffer from the same massive "lag" that you get with the older style ones that were basically just a lovely, exposed heating element. I have one of these right now. Its rubbish. goddamnedtwisto posted:LPG cookers are a thing, but - as much as I love a gas hob - I don't know if I could be arsed going through the extra hassle of swapping out bottles (or the expense of getting someone else to do it) - I suspect if you priced it up an induction hob would probably work out cheaper, and be better in almost every way (the only advantages of gas over induction being cheaper initial outlay and cookware and being able to light a fag off it). My parents had this when I was growing up until right now. They have two of the big bottles and switch over when one is empty so always got gas. They last for ages. You do need space for them i suppose where they can't get nicked. Aidan_702 posted:https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1346093451633426434?s=20 quoting this for the new page because otherwise there will be no blaze. NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Unless you have one of those afterburner-rocketengine chinese resturant gas hobs that turn your food into plasma, induction is just objectively better in every single way.
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Hoo boy. And bear in mind I don't even *like* wind power for multiple reasons. quote:ultrafucks untouched nature I've got extremely bad news for you about every single thing human beings have done since the neolithic. quote:kills birds Ditto, but also [citation needed] because the effects of wind turbines on birds are very marginal, especially compared to the more generalised damage done by fossil fuels. House cats definitely kill *way* more birds than wind power. Turbines *are* bad for nocturnal hunters and bats, but luckily the vast majority of UK wind generation is miles offshore. quote:makes an incredibly maddening humming noise for miles and miles around I've literally stood directly underneath these bad boys and the noise of them was barely noticeable above the actual wind. This is an objection I've heard loads of times and I've never seen anyone actually able to demonstrate it. quote:disrupts tv and radio signals Again [citation needed]. They're very thin structures which are earthed. I suppose potentially you might get some weird multipath effects off them and if you were still on 405-line black and white telly that would certainly be an issue, but any digital system is going to shrug that off without even noticing it, unless you already have such a weak and indirect signal that a lightning storm 300 miles away is also going to gently caress it anyway. quote:can't be recycled at all Again, bad news about everything humanity has ever done. Also they're mostly GRP, which while not recyclable, can certainly be disposed of in better ways than just dumping them in a hole. Even if we do just dump them in a hole, that's still a million times better than the waste problems of literally every other power generation system we have available to us right now or even in the forseeable future with the *possible* exception of concentrated solar power (the kind with mirrors and a heat exchanger - photovoltaics have loving *horrifying* environmental impact in both manufacture and disposal).
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The Question IRL posted:I've done the research about Electric v Gas v Induction. Ikea do these things for not very many bucks. Not sure how powerful it is but might be able to show off the speedy response and magical lack of residual heat? https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/tillreda-portable-induction-hob-white-40331630/
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Aidan_702 posted:https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1346093451633426434?s=20 A couple of months ago weren't people saying Boris was wrecked by long covid and either planning to retire or sort of step back and have a spokesperson do all his actual work?
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jiggerypokery posted:Has anywhere ever successfully harnessed tidal at scale?
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The Question IRL posted:I've done the research about Electric v Gas v Induction. Electricity is about 5.8x as much per unit as gas where I am, but gas hobs are only about 40% efficient at delivering heat to the thing you want heating, compared to 75% for induction, so that smooths the running cost difference to more like 3x as much for induction, which gets it into the range where you can put cost preference into indoor air quality, likely future price hikes, etc. But then they claim there's high efficiency burners that can be up to 65% efficient at delivering heat to load. They cost more but that brings it back towards gas for the foreseeable. (Unit utility prices kept doing the same thing when heat pump efficiency started to make them look reasonable.)
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've literally stood directly underneath these bad boys and the noise of them was barely noticeable above the actual wind. This is an objection I've heard loads of times and I've never seen anyone actually able to demonstrate it. goddamnedtwisto posted:Again [citation needed]. They're very thin structures which are earthed. I suppose potentially you might get some weird multipath effects off them and if you were still on 405-line black and white telly that would certainly be an issue, but any digital system is going to shrug that off without even noticing it, unless you already have such a weak and indirect signal that a lightning storm 300 miles away is also going to gently caress it anyway. Wind park operator ordered to fix tv signals immediately or shut down the park.
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Borrovan posted:They've been talking about building a massive tidal lagoon in Swansea for years, the web site says that construction is due to start in, uh, 2016, just as soon as somebody starts giving a gently caress about funding investment in green energy and/or Wales I like the idea of tidal power but for some reason it never seems to work out. I think the most damning thing is the Dutch, who would seem to be the most ideally-placed to exploit it with minimal outlay and hassle, have never bothered beyond a tiny pilot scheme. Although maybe they just have a cultural preference for wind power.
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Qwertycoatl posted:A couple of months ago weren't people saying Boris was wrecked by long covid and either planning to retire or sort of step back and have a spokesperson do all his actual work? I think it's a different thing that can't be repeated publicly without being sued but which people have suggested may eventually appear in a foreign newspaper/scandal mag (I have no inside knowledge of this so don't ask, it's just a rumour and you've probably guessed correctly) e: also for clarification I think its probably bollocks and sort of gross "wishful thinking" a pipe smoking dog fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Aidan_702 posted:https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1346093451633426434?s=20 Ah yes I think I saw a video speculating about this a while back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k29corrrL0
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Although maybe they just have a cultural preference for wind power. I think you're tilting at windmills.
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Tidal power seems like it would just be awful from an engineering standpoint. The powers involved are incredible and fairly chaotic, and the ocean is extremely corrosive. I used to work in a high grade steel smelting plant, and the stuff we made for offshore was incredibly complex and expensive.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Ditto, but also [citation needed] because the effects of wind turbines on birds are very marginal, especially compared to the more generalised damage done by fossil fuels. House cats definitely kill *way* more birds than wind power. Turbines *are* bad for nocturnal hunters and bats, but luckily the vast majority of UK wind generation is miles offshore. My gf works for a company that manages wind farms, most of the mid-sized ones built onshore have some sort of conservation requirements as part of the planning. One example is having to pay someone to hunt crows in order to promote some other bird that is endangered. It’s weird but it seems to work, and they haven’t had many issues with the turbines themselves killing birds. For tidal power, I think the problem with the lagoon systems is the huge up front costs. No company would fund it and would need government backing to make it worthwhile, which strangely enough our government doesn’t seem interested in. There are some interesting developments happening in the test ground in Orkney to develop floating systems that don’t affect the sea floor environment so much - I expect those to become much more popular. E: this one: https://orbitalmarine.com/ Pantsmaster Bill fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Couldn't give a toss if wind power disrupts TV signals tbh.
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GO.A.WAY you wretch: source: graun/politics/2021/jan/03/tony-blair-i-would-have-voted-for-boris-johnson-post-brexit-trade-deal quote:Tony Blair: I would have voted for Boris Johnson's post-Brexit trade deal
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sebzilla posted:You're still heating the element which heats the stovetop which heats the pan which heats the food.
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Aidan_702 posted:https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1346093451633426434?s=20 Boris raped and killed a girl in 1990.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I have one of these right now. Its rubbish. https://twitter.com/BenKentish/status/1346106654736211968 (It's just going to be even more confusing lockdown rules but I bet seeing those words gave everyone that same little "What crest is going to be on the lectern?" thrill we all got in 2017-2019, didn't it?)
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What happens in Scotland usually happens in England a day or 2 later - Full National Lockdown (except schools) If I was still at school I'd be furious at still having to go to school whilst everyone else is dicking about playing League of Legends and I'd be potentially giving covid to my family. Not like they give a gently caress about school meals, travelling in Europe or anything like that - but aye, chuck everyone into school during a pandemic so they can learn by rote how to pass an exam thats a few years away.
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Boris is addressing the nation at 8pm tonight. https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1346106536855302144
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Full lockdown presumably? Naturally he wouldn't have known that this morning.
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There's a tidal power hub offshore northern Cornwall. It's taking bids to hook experimental units into one of the 4 slots at the moment. Sounds promising except a mate did his MEng thesis on North Cornwall tidal power in 2012 and it's no further advanced now than it was then.
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Guavanaut posted:What's did you find the actual running cost difference for gas vs. induction to be? Whoa there. When I said "did the research." I meant I watched videos and read articles about what they are like to use when compared to each other. I didn't make any charts showing projected savings or loses as against long term use, or go into a price breakdown for energy per unit. As for wind turbines and killing birds, perhaps all we need is some tins of black paint. https://www.audubon.org/news/can-painting-wind-turbine-blades-black-really-save-birds Or (to go back to yesterday's comedy chat) get Del Boy to buy some luminous yellow paint. The Question IRL fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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The Question IRL posted:I've done the research about Electric v Gas v Induction. I persuaded 'Er Indoors on an induction hob for the new gaff. Part of it was compromising on it being a super-pricey Smeg job (apparently their cookers are good but their fridges are poo poo), and tbf it looks well nice and is Which?-approved. Also got a €30 induction tabletop hob for while our kitchen was demolished during renovations, and within a day she was persuaded that even that piece of poo poo was better than our previous cooker. The next battle is an OLED TV. I need those blacker-than-blacks. No racism.
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce the closure of all zoos, safari parks and pirate-themed adventure playgrounds, except for essential visits.
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stev posted:Full lockdown presumably? Naturally he wouldn't have known that this morning. i think two or three times a day he just spins one of those random choice wheels with various policies written on then ignores the result and chooses whichever one sounds like the least effort
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ukle posted:Boris is addressing the nation at 8pm tonight. Ah ffs I need to go shopping tomorrow it's gonna be a nightmare now.
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So we've had a colour-based lockdown system (remember that?), two different word-based ones, and are now in a number-based one. Where does he go from here? Smells? "London was today placed in forgotten gym bag lockdown, with the rest of the south-east in slightly fishy and Cornwall remaining in underventilated cupboard". (I originally wanted to do sounds with the Day Today "can you sum it up in a sound" clip but the smells one was funnier to me, sue me)
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Failed Imagineer posted:
I am currently engaged in a protracted OLED war. Even putting aside the obvious facts (a seven year old 42 inch LCD TV is not sufficient for a Playstation 5.) I am trying to open up a new front in the war by using arguments about couch distances from TV's and how 55 Inches is the minimum sized set you should be using these days.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've literally stood directly underneath these bad boys and the noise of them was barely noticeable above the actual wind. This is an objection I've heard loads of times and I've never seen anyone actually able to demonstrate it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBtqD-F2cpE this one's a right noisy bastard
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Borrovan posted:They've been talking about building a massive tidal lagoon in Swansea for years, the web site says that construction is due to start in, uh, 2016, just as soon as somebody starts giving a gently caress about funding investment in green energy and/or Wales There's also MeyGen, off the coast of John O Groats. When it's up & running it should be producing about 400MW. ukle posted:Boris is addressing the nation at 8pm tonight. Cool cool, just 3 or 4 months late.
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EvilHawk posted:Ah ffs I need to go shopping tomorrow it's gonna be a nightmare now. I have cheques that need to go in the bank, today was a bank holiday so tomorrow is the earliest I can go. Annoying.
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Convex posted:i think two or three times a day he just spins one of those random choice wheels with various policies written on then ignores the result and chooses whichever one sounds like the least effort knowing the tories i think its this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY
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The Question IRL posted:I am currently engaged in a protracted OLED war. Even putting aside the obvious facts (a seven year old 42 inch LCD TV is not sufficient for a Playstation 5.) I am trying to open up a new front in the war by using arguments about couch distances from TV's and how 55 Inches is the minimum sized set you should be using these days. 
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