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Brunch Covidian posted:Taintrunner mod now
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Maya Fey posted:This famous linguist once said that of all the phrases in the English language, of all the endless combinations of words in all of history, 'Jimmy Dore' is the most beautiful. Cellar Door AOC CIA Jimmy Dore Cellar Dore AOC CIA
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Brunch Covidian posted:I know you're such a bad poster that if someone told me you were a psyop to make cspam look worse by your posting I'd believe it
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RaySmuckles posted:that work sounds cool and good There is some truth to this, I often worry the work i have been doing leads to slums and not the goal of universal housing like I want. Not really sure where the idea that DSA-LA is pro Newsom comes from, everyone i know shits on the guy and openly states that the Democrats are part of the problem in California. That being said we don't just do mutual aid work, we do that primarily to build relationships with unhoused people so they join us in the fight against city hall. So they will text us when they get sweep notices, so we can film for lawsuits, like Garcia vs City of La which we are winning. Also remember these are people, not trash. I don't think you were insinuating that and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but helping people get access to food, shelter, electricity, and harm reduction materials isnt "filling pot holes" it is actually helping real people who have real value. As you pointed out if we aren't already there we are on a crash course to being a complete failed state, while I haven't completely given up on local politics, I don't really expect there to be much success in changing things. Just trying to soften the blow for as many people I can as the system falls apart. I don't think we are enabling the government to fall apart, we have no control over that, i just think we are doing the best we can in lovely situations and times.
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Now that she's been elected speaker we can start pushing her left.
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Jinnigan posted:what decentralized movement are we talking about here. are we talking about the massive BLM protests that happened this year? those were awesome, they involved some ~30,000,000 people across the country, including people sticking out their necks in very tiny very violently racist small towns. or are we talking about jimmy dore's plan to force the vote. offline participants: perhaps as many as 30? that's three tens, and that's terrible I think the thing we need to be asking here is whether something being an offline protest really means jack poo poo, given the massive protests you mentioned and how little they accomplished. I'm obviously not saying that online stuff matters more, but 0 = 0 here. People are associating value with effort/time put in, rather than results. I think that what happens is you have left-branded organizations (like the ones you mentioned in a later post) that might have good intentions, but they inevitably end up being managed/lead by people with "activism careers" who have all the wrong incentives (and are provided additional bad incentives to work with the Democratic Party or organizations/individuals associated with it). And it's not surprising that such organizations would end up this way, since the sort of people with the capacity to become heavily involved in them will be disproportionately fortunate/privileged in some manner. At the very least, I definitely believe it's a net harm when people use claims that you should be involved with such organizations as a way to silence people and effectively tell them they don't have the right to have/express opinions unless they've Done The Work (which is even more irksome when "The Work" usually accomplishes all of jack poo poo). I don't know if it's intentional at any level, but in practice this behavior just creates an atmosphere of elitism. It's like the people who say you shouldn't vote unless you pay attention to politics constantly. It's also extremely transparently obvious that this particular bout of scolding occurred in response to people attacking AOC. In an effort to maintain a feeling of significance, such movements attach themselves to people who aren't actually on their side. They want to be able to say "our movement Matters because it includes prominent people and organizations," so they react strongly if those people/organizations are called into question.
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JesusIsTehCool posted:There is some truth to this, I often worry the work i have been doing leads to slums and not the goal of universal housing like I want. Not really sure where the idea that DSA-LA is pro Newsom comes from, everyone i know shits on the guy and openly states that the Democrats are part of the problem in California. my wife is a social worker, so believe me, i feel you and appreciate your response doing work to help people is good. its valuable but is it actually making inroads politically in such a way as to change the system? its hard to tell is it the responsibility of a political organization? sure it builds credibility, but when it becomes the focus, the end goal... charities don't run the world and there's surely a reason for that RaySmuckles has issued a correction as of 21:30 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Ytlaya posted:It's also extremely transparently obvious that this particular bout of scolding occurred in response to people attacking AOC. In an effort to maintain a feeling of significance, such movements attach themselves to people who aren't actually on their side. They want to be able to say "our movement Matters because it includes prominent people and organizations," so they react strongly if those people/organizations are called into question. I've said this before but I also think a left electoral win in 2024 is pretty much our only real chance of preventing climate apocalypse and I don't think anybody but her has a chance of pulling it off so v  v
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Jan 4, 2021 21:29
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comedyblissoption posted:ty for agreeing ftv accomplished the same things as blm, even if at a lesser scale i dont have a problem with ftv, just with disparaging blm
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Ytlaya posted:I think the thing we need to be asking here is whether something being an offline protest really means jack poo poo, exquisite
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Jan 4, 2021 21:31
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posting in the thread again....for my survival
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Jan 4, 2021 21:31
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RaySmuckles posted:sorry, i don't understand this post sorry I’m a dumbass, I was agreeing with you, and then badly paraphrasing a post that you yourself made: RaySmuckles posted:i just can't believe so many "leftists" are arguing about how we should be fighting instead of high fiving each other over the willingness to fight
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Jan 4, 2021 21:31
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RaySmuckles posted:my wife is a social worker, so believe me, i feel you and appreciate your response Well Street Watch isn't a charity. Like a said we have had real tangible success sueing and winning, as have many other organizations. Helping the unhoused is not popular. Most people would be happy with the government murdering them, which is why I am a little sensitive about the way people talk about unhoused people in genral. There has been decades of demonization and dehumanization that have worked on the general population. I am not really sure you what you would have us do besides what we are doing. Maybe I should tell people to gently caress off more?
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Jan 4, 2021 21:36
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lmao strike while the iron is cold.
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gay_crimes posted:AOC and the squad are fraudulent, huh? Well how about instead of posting that, you do something, like organize. No one ever got anything by dunking on my queens, so how about you just STOP IT and ORGANIZE
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JesusIsTehCool posted:Well Street Watch isn't a charity. Like a said we have had real tangible success sueing and winning, as have many other organizations. Helping the unhoused is not popular. Most people would be happy with the government murdering them, which is why I am a little sensitive about the way people talk about unhoused people in genral. There has been decades of demonization and dehumanization that have worked on the general population. Sounds to me like you're doing good work. So now everyone is going to yell at you because ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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I know it's considered "bad form" to say this but my response to forcing the vote was a very lukewarm "yeah sure why not, it's something to do and we don't have a lot else going on" until the discourse devolved into "david sirota's extremely mild criticisms of this specific course of action prove that he is a CIA plant" and that happened really loving fast Is that possibly because a carnival barker rage-pill addict like Jimmy Dore became the loudest voice over more sane, less brittle people like Briahna Gray or Justin Jackson? Probably! Did saying this also get me called a CIA plant? Yes!
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Anyway the thing happened and now electoralism is dead so I guess what I'm trying to say is great job everybody
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Hey DSA organize deez nutz
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loquacius posted:I know it's considered "bad form" to say this but my response to forcing the vote was a very lukewarm "yeah sure why not, it's something to do and we don't have a lot else going on" until the discourse devolved into "david sirota's extremely mild criticisms of this specific course of action prove that he is a CIA plant" and that happened really loving fast nice try CIA
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QUEER FRASIER posted:sorry I’m a dumbass, I was agreeing with you, and then badly paraphrasing a post that you yourself made: ah gotcha i think i'm just wondering why so many people are coming at dore, and the people who agree with him, with their knives out it strikes me as strange that there's so much animosity when most people who identify as "leftists" (as opposed to "democrats") should recognize that things are incredibly hosed and any pressure we can assert, even if its uncouth, is good, valuable pressure so it seems that there is some kind of ulterior motive. like a bunch of these hostile people have been told they should be upset and oppose FtV instead of thinking for themselves. i get that invested people don't want to hear that their orgs or work is worthless or has been for naught, but can't we all look around and accurately assess that whatever we were doing leading up to biden's nomination is truly, fundamentally not working? the centrists are hardening in their opposition to the left, we can't just huff and puff their straw house down, so i'm all for finding ways to exert coercive pressure more effectively, even if its at the expense of some of our faves because no politician is above scrutiny, especially the ones that claim to speak for me
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It's me, I am the discourse police
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loquacius posted:I know it's considered "bad form" to say this but my response to forcing the vote was a very lukewarm "yeah sure why not, it's something to do and we don't have a lot else going on" until the discourse devolved into "david sirota's extremely mild criticisms of this specific course of action prove that he is a CIA plant" and that happened really loving fast tone police my balls
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Sounds to me like you're doing good work. So now everyone is going to yell at you because ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Take a brick. Carefully, oh so delicately insert it into your rear end. Enroll and faithfully study and practice Lamaze. Find a quiet place, breathe heavily, push, push, and give birth to that brick. Your new child is smarter than you'll ever be.
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KidDynamite posted:https://twitter.com/AnaKasparian/status/1346116018171641857 If you make money then why do you not have any money for unionization?
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Quetzadilla posted:exquisite Like I said, 0 = 0. There's no intrinsic value to effort that doesn't yield results. There's no meaningful difference between an IRL protest consisting of millions of people and 30 people yelling on the internet if neither accomplish anything. It's all a question of sunk cost. People don't want to think that effort has been for nothing. gay_crimes posted:AOC and the squad are fraudulent, huh? Well how about instead of posting that, you do something, like organize. No one ever got anything by dunking on my queens, so how about you just STOP IT and ORGANIZE Imagine the following: The Democratic Party approaches you, and they say "we will support the Green New Deal, but only if you can tell us who won the World Series in every year divisible by 7 in the next 60 seconds" The unorganized leftist would be helpless, because he/she has not done the work. But the organized leftist would smile and call up their organization's Senior Director of Baseball Stats, who would use the Dewey Decimal System to instantly source the relevant documentation.
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The fact of the matter is that after yesterday, what Bernie, AOC, and the Squad have done is the legislative equivalent of Star Citizen, right down to their dedicated Delusion & Defense brigade that refuses to face reality. First it was back Bernie, and “progressives,” and if we work our rear end off, we might finally get healthcare, a living wage, an end to endless wars, etc. Just buy a starter package, Squadron 42 is due out in 2014/2016/2020/20??, and don’t give up the faith. Join the DSA, donate to Bernie and the Squad, caucus for progressives, and don’t give up the faith. Now the years have gone on, and those investments haven’t paid off, and now people are seeing the writing on the wall and drifting away, leaving the truly devoted to live with their investment, doubling down on a lost cause. Buy an Idris. Vote for a warmongering austerity rapist who is actively opposed to every single one of your goals. Take out a loan and spend $50,000+ on ships for a game that has been pre-alpha for nearly a decade now. Knock on doors for Ossoff, who wants to deny you healthcare. These temporarily embarrassed liberal millennials that can’t figure out why they didn’t wind up as well off their parents, and drifted into “progressivism” (which is just liberalism, but confused) or worse, “democratic socialism,” which is just liberalism, but rebranded with a rose and a bunch of weird rituals. Don’t spread FUD. Always be “organizing.” At the end of the day, it’s not even “Progressive Citizen” for these worthless loving dorks, it’s just “Capitalist Citizen,” as they keep getting themselves sheepdogged into dumping their money and time and votes into material support for hard right austerity and corporate looting. Buy an AOC branded shirt that says “change takes courage,” then turn around and log onto Twitter to defend your candidate’s complete loving lack of courage in the face of the greatest economic crisis in the past 90 years. Livestream a buggy “pre-alpha” to zero viewers and try to push affiliate codes. Refuse to finally face reality and realize you’ve wasted thousands of hours and dollars and everything around you has gotten progressively worse and you invested in absolutely loving nothing, meanwhile, in about 15 years AOC and the Squad are going to gently caress off to the billionaire survival bunkers in exchange for doing their part to keep you docile and dedicated to a cause that was never real to begin with. Then the Sickening and Heartbreaking Truths of the Fourth Stimpire shall truly begin.
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Ytlaya posted:Like I said, 0 = 0. There's no intrinsic value to effort that doesn't yield results. There's no meaningful difference between an IRL protest consisting of millions of people and 30 people yelling on the internet if neither accomplish anything. the fact that you think blm/the floyd protests didn't accomplish anything is the telling part here
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