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BrianWilly posted:Okay yeah look...Death Metal #7 is...some cray-rear end tomfoolery and outright incomprehensible by even the barest of standards...but I can't help myself but to like it anyway. It's doing the poo poo Johns wanted to do with his Watchmen thing where all of the past and future stuff that was wiped due to New 52 is back in some manner. The events of Metal forced a split and they're their own Earth that's not in the core. There's a new Earth other than Earth-0 (Earth-Prime?) that's basically a flaming story hook for Snyder or whoever else. Same with "Darkseid is missing" Also the two page spread where they partied and mentioned them inviting villains only has Harley and Ivy as villains in it, lol.
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Xelkelvos posted:It's doing the poo poo Johns wanted to do with his Watchmen thing where all of the past and future stuff that was wiped due to New 52 is back in some manner. The events of Metal forced a split and they're their own Earth that's not in the core. There's a new Earth other than Earth-0 (Earth-Prime?) that's basically a flaming story hook for Snyder or whoever else. Same with "Darkseid is missing" I also see bizarro
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Xelkelvos posted:It's doing the poo poo Johns wanted to do with his Watchmen thing where all of the past and future stuff that was wiped due to New 52 is back in some manner. The events of Metal forced a split and they're their own Earth that's not in the core. There's a new Earth other than Earth-0 (Earth-Prime?) that's basically a flaming story hook for Snyder or whoever else. Same with "Darkseid is missing" Vandal Savage is there too. So about Generations Shattered...  That villain look familiar to anyone? KaosMachina fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Jan 5, 2021 |
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DC is such a trainwreck right now. All of the future comics were terrible except for Wonder Woman. I can't even say how much I hated the Flash poo poo. Imagine if they had gone forward with this being the actual new continuity? It would have been the death of them. As it is now, it's just another bad idea where all DC does is try to write the biggest stories that will change things FOREVER and then when their continuity is even more loving complicated because of it, they'll have to write another event to try and fix things.
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Give most of the Future State creators are going to be working on the main books I think the idea is "here's what happens if all those storylines coming up go terribly wrong". Like I don't think any retconning is going to be needed?
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Isn't the rumour that this is them burning off the first arc of the books that were supposed to be the new slate before DiDio got canned? I have to hand it to Dan for at least having a bold idea if nothing else, actually doing something daring (even the New 52 wasn't daring, it was 'lets put the genies back in the bottle and put everything back to square one like in COIE') is rare.
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Most of Future State was ok. The only things that grabbed me was Wonder Woman and the art in both the Harley Quinn and Batman books. why do they keep doing my boy Wally dirty 
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Gaz-L posted:Isn't the rumour that this is them burning off the first arc of the books that were supposed to be the new slate before DiDio got canned? I have to hand it to Dan for at least having a bold idea if nothing else, actually doing something daring (even the New 52 wasn't daring, it was 'lets put the genies back in the bottle and put everything back to square one like in COIE') is rare. It's an unproven rumor that given the way the DC books are going post-Future State I think it's increasingly less likely
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PenguinKnight posted:Most of Future State was ok. The only things that grabbed me was Wonder Woman and the art in both the Harley Quinn and Batman books. The people who orchestrated the start of this event hate him and were in power since 2004. It's not some cosmic coincidence that a year after Didio came into power they rushed out an ending to Johns Flash run and got rid of Wally immediately.
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Jan 6, 2021 02:24
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Didio hated Nightwing just as much, but he was never able to kill him off.
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Rhyno posted:Didio hated Nightwing just as much, but he was never able to kill him off. He literally has a butt that just won't quit.
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Jan 6, 2021 02:33
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The fact that this panel got past the editors kinda shows how little attention they're paying nowadays.  
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I cannot believe how much of a trash fire Future State: Flash was. In the same minute that Death Metal ended with Barry saying "Isn't this cool? Look how cool everything is!" to Wally, someone said "Let's just have Wally murder everyone, again, 'cuz what else would we be reading a future Flash story for?" We got Luke Fox as Batman, Jon Kent as Superman, a completely new Wonder Woman, and seriously no one else had any ideas for what the Flash mythos could be like in the future? Other than this? Speaking of, I like new WW so far but nothing about it is screaming new favorite character to me just yet. There's just so little background on her right now so pretty much the only thing we know about her is that she's kind of a dumbass...er, I mean she's very headstrong, yes. 
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RBX posted:Is this dark nights metal stuff good? I also see Dark Nights death metal? I thought Snyder's New52 Batman was excellent and Metal kind of worked as a cherry on top. But even sticking to the core books it got pretty stale and 90s xtreme. Also a very Morrison ending.
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Rhyno posted:Didio hated Nightwing just as much, but he was never able to kill him off. Batman writers like Dick and have a large say in the offices. No one gives a poo poo about The Flash like they do Batman adjacent stuff. And even then we got stuff like Rick this whole past year. And the ever hosed situation that is The Titans. Two Tone Shoes fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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Isn't the new Batman not Luke but his brother? Or was that a red herring and lol it's the Fox kid that was already a Bat? And isn't there a new Flash in the Justice League book?
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I do not plan to ever read Death Metal again but I do think it's funny that you can almost pinpoint a part where it goes from being a setup for whatever 5G was to being "actually the status quo is cool and good so everything's gonna go back to normal after a few months". And a whole lotta dumb in-story bullshit to justify "We're gonna do Elseworlds". At least the goddamn Batman Who Laughs is loving dead. (Until Scott Snyder has another TOTALLY METAL story to tell and he reveals that actually dying was a part of his master plan so he could become the Spectre or some poo poo) Gaz-L posted:Isn't the rumour that this is them burning off the first arc of the books that were supposed to be the new slate before DiDio got canned? I have to hand it to Dan for at least having a bold idea if nothing else, actually doing something daring (even the New 52 wasn't daring, it was 'lets put the genies back in the bottle and put everything back to square one like in COIE') is rare. Yeah, the idea was bold as hell which is something you rarely see in the Big Two.
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If only the bold idea wasn't headed by a man with the creative direction of a jackhammer.
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Gaz-L posted:Isn't the new Batman not Luke but his brother? Or was that a red herring and lol it's the Fox kid that was already a Bat?
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I'm not reading the Bat-titles right now, but I thought JT4 brought in an obscure other son of Lucius in a really unsubtle 'this is definitely the guy that's gonna be Batman' esque way a few issues ago?
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Again, based on this issue alone it's strongly suggested Luke is Batman, right down to him sharing Batman's text boxes; if it does turn out that Tim/Jace is Batman, it would have to be a misdirect to the degree that many of Luke's on-panel narration was coming from his brother instead. It's not outright impossible, but until you mentioned it I didn't even consider it. e: Unless I'm reading this completely wrong 'cuz the internet thinks to think for sure it's Tim? Idk. Don't rely on me for this. I haven't been paying any attention. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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The backups in Batman really make me like it less, even though they are...fine? Nothing in they thing makes it worth 8 bucks.
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BrianWilly posted:Again, based on this issue alone it's strongly suggested Luke is Batman, right down to him sharing Batman's text boxes; if it does turn out that Tim/Jace is Batman, it would have to be a misdirect to the degree that many of Luke's on-panel narration was coming from his brother instead. It's not outright impossible, but until you mentioned it I didn't even consider it. I think you probably just didn't fall for the red herring and it never registered for you that it was gonna be anyone but Luke. Honestly, the better set-up for this kind of thing is the new Green Power Ranger in the Boom Studios books, because all the possible candidates for that are characters that have been floating around the titles for dozens of issues.
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The reason the Internet thinks that the new Batman is Tim Fox and not Luke Fox really comes down to DC Comics issuing a press release last month saying that Tim Fox is the New Batman and then writer John Ridley doing a month's worth of interviews talking about how Tim Fox is the new Batman, why he wanted Tim Fox as the new Batman, what he thinks is interesting about Tim Fox as the new Batman, etc.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:The backups in Batman really make me like it less, even though they are...fine? Nothing in they thing makes it worth 8 bucks. The Batman backups are better than the main Batman comic. WW is solid and whimsical and would be a fine addition to canon though I fear what a bad writer would do with the introduction of a non-european pantheon interacting with Olympians. The premise for all of the Metropolis stuff is just bad. Swamp Thing has legs though. Harley Quinn also seems to have potential and it'd be a nice change to see her as Manic Pixie Punk Rock Criminologist in the main canon.
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Xelkelvos posted:The Batman backups are better than the main Batman comic. WW is solid and whimsical and would be a fine addition to canon though I fear what a bad writer would do with the introduction of a non-european pantheon interacting with Olympians. The premise for all of the Metropolis stuff is just bad. Swamp Thing has legs though. Harley Quinn also seems to have potential and it'd be a nice change to see her as Manic Pixie Punk Rock Criminologist in the main canon. I'm pretty sure that's the exact angle the new harley quinn book is taking
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Rhyno posted:Didio hated Nightwing just as much, but he was never able to kill him off. So, what, he wanted Dick back as Robin?
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Dawgstar posted:So, what, he wanted Dick back as Robin? No he just wanted him dead. He tried it in Infinite Crisis and everyone else put their foot down on it.
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Blockhouse posted:I'm pretty sure that's the exact angle the new harley quinn book is taking It is a really good use of her and Scarecrow for sure.
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FS Wonder Woman was a fine in media res start, basically playing it as if this was just the next arc in an ogoing. And I quite liked the main story in Superman, especially as it's less Red Son and more Jon did this as a stopgap and oh poo poo it was Brainiac's plan all along. Not sure about the backups, Mr Miracle was fine but seems to clash with the situation presented in Guardian- which had great art but kind of a b lah story and kind of assumes you know this is the Morrison version of Guardian? Sensational Wonder Woman suffered from the solicits basically giving away the twist (although it's hardly a shock if you know the villain in question) Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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Lord_Hambrose posted:It is a really good use of her and Scarecrow for sure. Yeah, it's kind of a shame this isn't the ongoing.
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, it's kind of a shame this isn't the ongoing. Isn't it the same writer, though? She could definitely incorporate some of those elements.
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Gaz-L posted:Isn't it the same writer, though? She could definitely incorporate some of those elements. That is, in fact, the purpose of Future State
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Gaz-L posted:Isn't the rumour that this is them burning off the first arc of the books that were supposed to be the new slate before DiDio got canned? I have to hand it to Dan for at least having a bold idea if nothing else, actually doing something daring (even the New 52 wasn't daring, it was 'lets put the genies back in the bottle and put everything back to square one like in COIE') is rare. It's definitely a reworked version of what was originally planned for 5G, at least to a large extent. How much of it is literally just 5G material, how much had to be rewritten/redrawn due to editorial changes, and how much was newly commissioned just for Future State, I have no idea. Though fwiw, Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman strike me as more the first two categories, and Flash and Swamp Thing more the last. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jan 7, 2021 |
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Wonder Woman 100% reads like Jones is just doing the first issue of a run in an ongoing series.
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Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:Robin King I.e. Barry Allen's Mom in a FlashRing that is laced with AntiSpeedforce Virus TwoPair posted:At least the goddamn Batman Who Laughs is loving dead.  TBwL DIED in issue one and TOwL is a gestalt of BatManHattan and TBwL brain matter so it's its own thing and also in a year Goldstreak (the ancestor of Booster Gold and GirlFlash) comes back from the year WhatIf to tell Batman and Superman that "THERE IS A HOLE IN YESTERDAY AND A GAP IN TOMORROW" leading them to find out that TOwL became a part of the End of Time and has now become the UberGod The Bat in The Dark and is making his body the new Source Wall made of pure Entropy and...FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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The first chapter of the Joker raises a baby manga is out. It is...wholesome? Wait that's not right... Also, seeing Joker's inner dialogue is hilarious. the fact that he uses his mad laughter to cover up that he's has no idea wtf to do next is genius
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Siegkrow posted:The first chapter of the Joker raises a baby manga is out. 
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