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honestly I think I'd make it a rival interaction; Spain could declare itself defender of the catholic faith to their rival ottomans so they get a CB or a defense call or w/e whenever the ottomans attack a catholic state, but they also don't randomly defend catholic sweden against russia over finland
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Jan 6, 2021 08:10
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Cockblocktopus posted:I'm around 1600 and playing as Russia (I think the year is right; the Leagues just formed but the war hasn't started yet). My troops are absolute tissue paper in Europe despite tech parity (I have Defensive Ideas finished as well). I have a slight discipline disadvantage (5%) but I'm losing battles where I have a 2:1 or 3:2 advantage in numbers. I don't usually play with Eastern European units; am I getting unlucky on my rolls or should I just beat up central Asia and China and wait for my units to get better relative to western and Ottoman units? essentially yes, expanding into asia to get very, very big then slamming into europe with 100 absoluteism and all the military ideas fleshed out is not a bad way to go (trade company all the way too) just make sure you have a moral advisor, DotF, lots of cannons and sensible defensive battles if you do fight the euros
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Jan 6, 2021 12:22
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PittTheElder posted:Internal politics my man Paradox's game designers have a siren in their office that goes off when any of his devs begin even looking at internal politics
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Jan 6, 2021 13:27
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Honestly the problem isn’t with DotF, it’s every war being WW2. Spain might send a fleet to help Genoa if Ottomans come for Crimea, and similarly Ottos should send a fleet if Spain goes for Tlemcen. Thats why in Imperator i made so that if you held your wargoal for X time you could enforce peace for it, or if you had stopped the attacker from taking it you could enforce a whitepeace
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Jan 6, 2021 16:59
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pdxjohan posted:Thats why in Imperator i made so that if you held your wargoal for X time you could enforce peace for it, or if you had stopped the attacker from taking it you could enforce a whitepeace
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Jan 6, 2021 17:27
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I remember EU3 having something like that. If you held a province for 5 years it was just automatically annexed without a peace deal. But I'm not sure about exact details. And it was not a mechanic for small proxy wars but rather for big world wars.
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Jan 6, 2021 17:54
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if you fully occupy a country for 5 years and they occupy nothing you'll get 100% warscore regardless of how their allies are doing. dunno how subjects factor into this though
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Jan 6, 2021 18:16
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Just have DOTF phase out with the Age of Absolutism, or throw out the guarantee at that point or something. Right now it’s very silly that in the mid 1700s as Prussia I can’t declare on, say, Denmark without France or Austria jumping in by virtue of both countries being Catholic.
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I'm Orissa, going for Foremost Servitor of Jagannath; own all of the tropical wood provinces. I have all the Asian and African provinces already owned (bar one in Morocco, owned by mega-Spain), and all the others are owned by Spain's colonial nations in the New World. Roughly got 50 years left. I'm confident I can take on Spain one on one, and already have 2 colonial nations of my own in South America, the only issue I think I can have is going to be finishing the wars fast enough, as Spain has half a million soldiers plus another million in manpower, and I imagine oodles of ducats for mercs. Any suggestions?
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Jan 7, 2021 09:25
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canepazzo posted:I'm Orissa, going for Foremost Servitor of Jagannath; own all of the tropical wood provinces. I have all the Asian and African provinces already owned (bar one in Morocco, owned by mega-Spain), and all the others are owned by Spain's colonial nations in the New World. Roughly got 50 years left. If you're confident that your colony can win against Spain's colony 1 on 1 you can fabricate claims on the Spanish colony, give those claims to your colony in the vassal menu, then use one of the options in the vassal menu to get your colony to declare war on Spain's without you or Spain having to fight directly. Sometimes the AI craps out when you do this and decides it doesn't want to take any provinces, and releases them as an independent nation (florida, Canada, those types of tags) but in that case you can just use imperialism to decc on them immediately.
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Jan 7, 2021 09:45
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Ah, no, those 2 CNs are 5 provinces each, I only got them so as to be able to use "release colonial xx" as peace terms on La Plata and Peru (where most of the Tropical Wood is); they deffo can't hold their own.
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Jan 7, 2021 09:46
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canepazzo posted:I'm Orissa, going for Foremost Servitor of Jagannath; own all of the tropical wood provinces. I have all the Asian and African provinces already owned (bar one in Morocco, owned by mega-Spain), and all the others are owned by Spain's colonial nations in the New World. Roughly got 50 years left. Easiest way would be to move your capital to the new world, which will let you declare on Spain's CNs without them being called in. Its more annoying to do than it used to be but xxx -> Bermuda -> South America is the simplest.
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Jan 7, 2021 15:51
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remember when deus vult was the first religious idea
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Finally got Foremost Servitor of Jagannath, no special trick with Spain in the end. I stole all of Portugal's CNs to give him plenty to be occupied with, and grabbed Lisboa as a base. Then I just needed one war since most provinces cost gently caress all - I just took out 50k in loans and 200k in mercenaris just to bruteforce the last ones. Glad I didn't need occupation on the one province in Cuba cause landing troops versus Spain is nearly as bad as versus GB. Next one is Norwegian Wood, which seems a similar strategy except with European technology and fast colonization rather than the riches of India.
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Jan 7, 2021 22:39
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Naval supplies are so much more widespread through, it's almost like a mini-WC. You'll for sure want to strangle England in the cradle.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Jan 8, 2021 16:40
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Are you a horde, and if not why not?
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Jan 8, 2021 17:06
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i would guess states general
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Jan 8, 2021 18:17
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Firebatgyro posted:
It's your own fault for gobbling up all the coast line rather than letting CNs colonize for you and then trivially snatching their lands.
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Jan 8, 2021 18:31
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Does anyone know if it’s feasible for Papal States to no-CB Byzantium? Thinking about it for a kingdom of god run
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Jan 8, 2021 19:06
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oddium posted:i would guess states general Why would you not be a horde, though.
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Jan 8, 2021 21:33
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Groke posted:Why would you not be a horde, though.
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PittTheElder posted:It's your own fault for gobbling up all the coast line rather than letting CNs colonize for you and then trivially snatching their lands. Oh believe me, most of that land is stolen. I've had to murder CNs left and right because they count as separate countries for coalitions.
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Wait what coalitions were you even running into? Last time I did Sunset the Euros didn't care because they were too far away, Americans didn't care because culture/religion, and the CNs didn't matter because subjects can't join coalitions.
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Jan 8, 2021 23:54
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PittTheElder posted:Wait what coalitions were you even running into? Last time I did Sunset the Euros didn't care because they were too far away, Americans didn't care because culture/religion, and the CNs didn't matter because subjects can't join coalitions. Spain/Portugal/England/Scotland + whatever CNs were alive. CNs can definitely join coalitions against you if your capital is in the new world, its the tradeoff for being able to declare on them without their overlord joining. Eating the Caribbean gives you like 200AE with every Catholic that can see you.
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skasion posted:Does anyone know if it’s feasible for Papal States to no-CB Byzantium? Thinking about it for a kingdom of god run I think it's perfectly possible, yes. I considered it myself doing it earlier today, but too many opportunities opened themselves on the mainland. Just make sure to friend up with the Ottomans for access through their southern provinces. Speaking of which...  Well that's a relief.
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THE BAR posted:I think it's perfectly possible, yes. I considered it myself doing it earlier today, but too many opportunities opened themselves on the mainland. Just make sure to friend up with the Ottomans for access through their southern provinces.
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Jan 9, 2021 02:52
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skasion posted:Does anyone know if it’s feasible for Papal States to no-CB Byzantium? Thinking about it for a kingdom of god run I would think your limitation would probably be transport capacity, but you could probably pull it off. You also might have a decent shot at fabricating on Naples -> taking the Adriatic coastline off Naples when Aragon abandons them -> fabricating on and vassaling Byzantium after the Ottomans take Constantinople and leave a rump state in Greece (and/or you could annex Epirus then release Byzantium). Ottomans would still complete the Constantinople mission but get hung up on the Greece one, which might discourage their European expansion. A little RNG-dependent but I feel like Aragon voluntarily giving up Naples and Byzantium taking two wars to annex both happen in more of my games than not.
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Cockblocktopus posted:I would think your limitation would probably be transport capacity, but you could probably pull it off. you can just walk. everyone between you and the ottos will give mil access pretty easily and the ottomans will almost always see you as friendly enough to allow access after you declare on byz, unless they're more hostile to the pope than they are to other catholics.
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Firebatgyro posted:Spain/Portugal/England/Scotland + whatever CNs were alive. CNs can definitely join coalitions against you if your capital is in the new world, its the tradeoff for being able to declare on them without their overlord joining. yes and sometimes while they count towards a coalition , often you can still fight them without calling in the coalition somehow ? very wonky, i also made sure to never actively reveal any european capitals, prevents a euro mainland coalition developing
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 I was on ironman, and couldn't test this out, but... I presume this would've turned them into a theocracy, not an antipope?
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 Well this goes down as one of the most wtf things I've seen in this game.
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Jan 9, 2021 16:57
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You get a pope, and you get a pope, and those guys over there get a pope... everyone gets a pope!
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Detheros posted:
Well it's just a post-colonial nation... ...formed by WHO?
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Jan 9, 2021 17:06
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As their third idea, no less.
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Jan 9, 2021 17:51
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Province History says they've been colonizing over there since 1541, how the hell did I miss this?
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I’ve had this game in my library for a while, but never really played it. Since I’m in a Crusader King mood, figured now is the time to try this as well. Are there any good SS let’s plays that act as tutorials? CK2 had a really good one here in the Let’s Play forum.
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Jan 9, 2021 21:07
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 Okay, sure, why the hell not.
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Since the next update is going to change how migration works I decided to get my thumbs out and do something I've been curious about for a time: Worked like a charm, so far.  THE BAR posted:
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