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facialimpediment posted:My general thought is that Capitol Police aren't very Online That's a really poo poo line of reasoning. I would assume the CPD would have their own intelligence gathering operations or use the intelligence apparatus of the MPD and/or FBI to determine "Hey a bunch of idiot chuds are calling for heads online, who are gonna be attending this rally. Maybe you should prepare for people being stupid." There's a difference between rando mcdude on the street not being "very online" and not knowing a bunch of chuds where gonna storm the capitol, and a police force having zero intelligence capability surrounding what they're ostensibly there to do.
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It is worth noting that one of the major differences between yesterday and the protests this summer was the lack of federal leadership and response. Barr specifically pulled as many feds from across the country as he could to crack down upon the protests in a show of force, because he is an authoritarian fascist and a major goal of the administration is straight-up white nationalism. Meanwhile the administration actively sympathizes with/encouraged the protests yesterday, and as a result federal manpower and resources were either not available or deliberately withheld from CPD (See for instance how long it took to get authorization for the National Guard to show up). So to a degree, CPD was set up to fail—not that anything can excuse their inability to prepare or respond for the threat, mind you.stackofflapjacks posted:My wife pointed out to me yesterday that this is obvious in light of America being a white supremacist nation. White people(and police) don't see other white people as threats, even against available evidence. Even when an armed mob of them are coming down the street, they aren't thinking they are rioters or terrorists, just protestors. Hence the coverage yesterday taking forever to label them anything other than protestors. This is also true.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:20
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Shaddak posted:About miss Elizabeth: So she WAS ready after all?!?
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Jan 8, 2021 00:22
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And now they're a meme for being the policing equivalent of a turnstyle. I can't really wrap my head around the entire Capitol Police deciding "yeah let's deliberately make ourselves look incompetent and useless on national tv." Like, I'm more inclined to believe it was a not so subtle nod towards Biden and the democrats regarding defunding the police but even that doesn't tack for me. I do agree that I don't think they were taking this any more seriously then everyone mocking the TD.w posts in gbs for the last 3 months AND they didn't think the white people would give them any trouble unlike those other races.
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stackofflapjacks posted:My wife pointed out to me yesterday that this is obvious in light of America being a white supremacist nation. White people(and police) don't see other white people as threats, even against available evidence. Even when an armed mob of them are coming down the street, they aren't thinking they are rioters or terrorists, just protestors. Hence the coverage yesterday taking forever to label them anything other than protestors. I think this is what I'm trying to say. In quicktweet form: https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1347321459878801408 Defenestrategy posted:That's a really poo poo line of reasoning. I would assume the CPD would have their own intelligence gathering operations or use the intelligence apparatus of the MPD and/or FBI to determine "Hey a bunch of idiot chuds are calling for heads online, who are gonna be attending this rally. Maybe you should prepare for people being stupid." I think the above covers it. They likely looked at the general panic in the run-up to the 6th, thought "oh these are just online people, the others panicking are just trump-haters", and thought it would be a normal protest. Midjack posted:This probably isn’t going to be true anymore. Agreed. The next four years will likely be about far-right extremism, but at least there will be a presidential infrastructure that doesn't just ignore it.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:27
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facialimpediment posted:
I agree with this. They could have, and should have, recognized a serious threat days before just based on the right-wing rumblings on the internet. As for the cops who waved people through, they failed so bad that they supported the insurrection; just convict them and make them serve their sentences on a Mississippi work farm.
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Stolen from Gbs https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1347312026180349958?s=19 https://twitter.com/grace_panetta/status/1347314570638012416?s=19
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Jan 8, 2021 00:31
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Stolen from Gbs https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1347312026180349958?s=19 Not for long!
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Stolen from Gbs A kinda-lovely thing is that most of the arrestees are getting released on recognizance, banned from DC, then getting a June court date. We really won't know how much time any of these people get, if any, or if they're going to get layered-on charges like these: https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1347325120906489860
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Jan 8, 2021 00:35
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facialimpediment posted:
yeah i can't wait for the 4000-page bill that really ramps up domestic surveillance and detainment
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Jan 8, 2021 00:36
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Quelle surprise.
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https://gothamist.com/news/trump-fur-ever-costumed-capitol-rioter-son-brooklyn-supreme-court-judgequote:His brother, Nachman Mostofsky, is the vice president of the South Brooklyn Conservative Club, and an elected district leader in the borough, who claims to have connections with high-ranking members of the Trump administration. Nachman also attended the rally on Thursday, but said he left before the group entered the capitol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xewPUMYkaMQ
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Jan 8, 2021 00:38
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facialimpediment posted:A kinda-lovely thing is that most of the arrestees are getting released on recognizance, banned from DC, then getting a June court date. We really won't know how much time any of these people get, if any, or if they're going to get layered-on charges like these: Paging rando GIP Lawyers/law dudes/idiots who might know. Is there any issue with just throwing everything at someone and seeing what sticks except for time/money issues. So like if a dude got arrested while pissing on Dianne Feinsteins desk, can you throw treason, sedition, trespassing, urinating in public, littering, national monument poo poo, destruction of public property,etc,etc,etc,etc or do judges kinda frown on just throwing everything at a dude to get him punished. Like just throw everything you can think of that you could plausibly make an argument and have evidence for.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:42
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The calculus for the republicans is that Trump is dangerous as a president, a massively popular liability they can't control as an ex-president, and immensely valuable as a martyr.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:47
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Defenestrategy posted:Paging rando GIP Lawyers/law dudes/idiots who might know. I mean that is what Prosecutors always do. Also Capital Police Office just died, so expect a lot of felony murder charges.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Also Capital Police Office just died, so expect a lot of felony murder charges. pEaCeFuL pRoTeStOrS https://twitter.com/kristin__wilson/status/1347328325019164680
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Jan 8, 2021 00:50
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facialimpediment posted:pEaCeFuL pRoTeStOrS I want sedition and insurrection. Things that carry the stink of treason and traitors.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:52
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Defenestrategy posted:Paging rando GIP Lawyers/law dudes/idiots who might know. Thought that was standard and like half of it disappears when they take a plea deal so they go from enormous potential amount of time down to a lot less.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:53
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facialimpediment posted:pEaCeFuL pRoTeStOrS "involved in the riots" seems overly vague.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:55
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https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1347327314363904006?s=19 Stolen from Gbs, again. Anyone who is a uniformed member needs a court martial tomorrow and Leavenworth for the rest of their life, or a firing squad.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:58
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lightpole posted:Thought that was standard and like half of it disappears when they take a plea deal so they go from enormous potential amount of time down to a lot less. Look I only get in trouble for petty poo poo. I've never been in a situation where the maximum penalty was death for treason and a minimum could be 100$ for trespassing on government property.
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facialimpediment posted:pEaCeFuL pRoTeStOrS Back the blue but kill a cop I guess
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It's well known that Pence's life goal had been to be president. I don't know why he wouldn't push for it. He could get to be the boss for like 2 weeks and list it forever on his LinkedIn. Edit:. It would make for great trivia too. He could replace william henry harrison as our nation's shortest serving president. El Mero Mero fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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Trump supporters get the pen and Trump gets off like a rose, well, I never.  Pine Cone Jones posted:https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1347327314363904006?s=19 I would assume this is turbofucked If You're In and do this and could be considered something along the lines of treason if they're made?
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Jan 8, 2021 01:05
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El Mero Mero posted:It's well known that Pence's life goal had been to be president. I don't know why he wouldn't push for it. He could get to be the boss for like 2 weeks and list it forever on his LinkedIn. because if he stays tied to Trump he might be able to win an election.
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Jan 8, 2021 01:06
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Doc Hawkins posted:because if he stays tied to Trump he might be able to win an election. I mean. He overrode the president and authorized the national guard to come in and he also wrote that letter certifying the election results. He's persona non-grata to the chuds now
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Jan 8, 2021 01:09
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CBJSprague24 posted:Trump supporters get the pen and Trump gets off like a rose, well, I never. I would see a lot of Leavenworth in their future if they are lucky. Possibly a bullet if they are not so much.
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Jan 8, 2021 01:14
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Our big, wet president conceded: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550
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Jan 8, 2021 01:15
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:"involved in the riots" seems overly vague. That wording almost sounds like it’s setting up a “fell out of a guard tower at Auschwitz” punchline.
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Jan 8, 2021 01:16
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Doc Hawkins posted:yeah i can't wait for the 4000-page bill that really ramps up domestic surveillance and detainment yep Also the chief of the Capitol Police is resigning.
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Jan 8, 2021 01:16
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kinda ominous ending for a concession video imo "...our incredible journey is only just beginning."
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Jan 8, 2021 01:18
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Our big, wet president conceded: "Demonstrators" Wow this covid thing sounds bad, someone should look into doing thing about it?? "This is only the beginning" -- awkward way to end a concession video, but he's not wrong.
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Jan 8, 2021 01:20
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Our big, wet president conceded: he said "a new administration" but he didn't say whose! Hot Karl Marx posted:kinda ominous ending for a concession video imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBS6P8k4LB8
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Jan 8, 2021 01:21
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Our big, wet president conceded: Took him almost his entire presidency to sound vaguely presidential. How heavily medicated is he?
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Jan 8, 2021 01:22
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CBJSprague24 posted:Took him almost his entire presidency to sound vaguely presidential. How heavily medicated is he? There were apparently some awkward cuts when they removed the ad-libs. Donnie's been told he has severe legal exposure for all the poo poo yesterday, so he made up a lie about immediately deploying the guard (nope) and etc.
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Jan 8, 2021 01:23
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I let that whole video play and my iPad wants to set itself on fire now. quote:Demonstrators AKDIFJCICJCJDIAOAHFHEICNCJDJD
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Icon Of Sin posted:I let that whole video play and my iPad wants to set itself on fire now. wut
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Didn’t even mention Biden by name and tried to come off as shocked- shocked I say!- by the violence he incited yesterday. I know the Hot Dog Guy from I Think You Should Leave is overused at this point but it was basically the equivalent of that in a speech. gently caress you, Trump. Your legacy will always be over 300,000 (+5) dead Americans.
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