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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Indie Rocktopus posted:

Look at Georgia. Trumpists just hand-delivered the Senate to Democrats with zero regrets or apologies.

Right, but like I said, the question is if this was a one time "gently caress you" to Mitch for not giving them the stimulus checks and they fall in line after this, or if Trump really has depressed turnout.

I feel like it's kind of wishful thinking to assume that this weakens the Republicans by any significant measure. Two years under the "radical communist leftist" Biden regime may make them feel empowered to vote in large numbers again, especially if Trump tries to keep them under his sway and endorses midterm candidates. Then again it might not. If Trump really has turned off a statistically significant portion of right wingers from voting hey that's great, but I'm a bit more hesitant to proclaim that. State legislatures are going to make huge pushes to make voting harder and more restricted, and that could give Republicans the edge to regain control of the House/Senate even if Trump takes away R voters.

kik2dagroin posted:

Limbaugh seems all aboard with further incitement since he won't have to live with the fallout.

And then there's this unrepentantly evil rear end in a top hat, of all the people to miraculously survive for almost a year in the terminal stages of cancer it had to be this motherfucker.

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Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

BiggerBoat posted:

By Monday, we'll be re-litigating the merits of BLM.

Lindsey Graham beat you there, today he was calling for Dems to denounce social justice riots.

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

kik2dagroin posted:

Limbaugh seems all aboard with further incitement since he won't have to live with the fallout.
https://twitter.com/GoAngelo/status/1347267821710024705

I'll probably do a transcript dump later today when I have time just so it's on the record here.

I make it a point to never wish death or suffering on anyone, and I still don’t, but damned if some motherfuckers don’t make it really, really hard.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Twelve by Pies posted:

"Split" is probably the wrong word for it, even though that's kind of what's going on and what the end result of this will be.

People who are hoping this will result in Republicans not getting elected again are going to be very disappointed. But what's happening is Trump is done as a politician and a lot of the high level members have no desire to keep hitching their wagon to him, especially after yesterday. They know how destructive Trump is and they were willing to tolerate it as long as it got their rich buddies tax cuts and got them control of SCOTUS, but Trump can't give that to them anymore and they don't want any further destruction because they know it makes them look bad to more moderate Republicans/centrists.

What's probably going to happen is that there will kind of be two Republican parties, and this will really matter only in primaries. In rural areas that are strong R we'll probably start getting more unhinged lunatics running as they continue to pay lip service to Trump and his brand of politics. In weaker R areas you'll probably see more bog standard Mitt Romney types who distance themselves from Trump and run on a "return to normalcy" so that they don't turn become completely unpalatable to non Republicans.

The question is if the Senate race in GA is genuinely a sign of right wingers losing faith in the system because of Trump yelling about fraud, a "gently caress you" to Mitch, or just the result of expanding voting and making it easier. If it's the last one, Republicans will do everything they can to suppress voting again. If it's the second one, this was a one off and there's no need for the "establishment" GOP members to worry because R voters will fall in line behind any candidate with that R by their name. If it's the first one, then there's trouble for them because if GOP turnout falls, that hurts them going forward.

Some people are calling for a "MAGA party" to split off from Republicans and that might gain traction as a third party for House races in strong R districts or state legislatures, but for Senate/President that's never going to gain any ground because even the most loyal Trump supporter realizes splitting the right wing vote like that would result in Dem control of those two areas for a good while.

yeah. i think purple states will either slowly go more blue or attract mostly Mitt type GOP types least with national level. red states will probably go full maga. local levels will be a mixed bag.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Twelve by Pies posted:

And then there's this unrepentantly evil rear end in a top hat, of all the people to miraculously survive for almost a year in the terminal stages of cancer it had to be this motherfucker.

Seriously, Alex Trebek is dead but this loving douchebag gets to still draw breath through his tumor-filled lungs.

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

BiggerBoat posted:

So we're seeing what decades of this poo poo culminates in right now at the door of the capitol building. Some of this saw this coming

Hannity, Rush, Jones, Trump...they're all culpable for whatever happens today.

Got told today that Rush, Hannity etc are entertainers. That calling for the curtailment of their message is in the same vein as when the PMRC was stood up warning about 'dangerous' music lyrics. Or that criticizing RW media is the same as blaming video games for violence. It's all entertainment and anyone who radicalized listening did it to themselves.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
Edit; wrong thread

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.

quote:

RUSH: You may not know it, but favorable inheritance tax breaks have been part of recent tax policy. They’re not gonna change. Who benefits? The wealthy and the rich. And who’s gonna make them richer? The Democrats. Middle-income people, on the other hand, are gonna get hit hard by the soon-to-come non-step-up in inherited assets. So if you’re middle income — and that’s we’ll say up to, say, a hundred, 120 grand max, you’re gonna get hit very hard. They’re going to inflate inherited assets, and they’re gonna eliminate that which is making inherited assets advantageous.

So the middle class is gonna get poorer. And who is making them poorer? The Democrats are. And then Cramer says the list could go on, but the rich, who are now the biggest contributors and the best supporters of Democrats, why, they’re gonna be protected. The rest of us get higher taxes, higher costs of living. Who is going to bring higher taxes and higher costs of living to the little guy? The Democrats. How many people do you think voted for the Democrats back in November thinking they are voting against the rich?
...
So bottom line is the stock market is now in the total control of the rich, elite socialists. It is the reservoir of their wealth. Now, there are some Republicans in there whose wealth is in the stock market. They’re gonna be very quiet. They’re not gonna want to call attention to themselves. They’re not gonna want the rich elite socialists who run the stock market to kick ’em out of it.
Rich Elite Socialists Now Control the Stock Market
Things were better when Rich Elite Fascists were in control of the stock market :qq:

quote:

RUSH: You can find news stories. (Snort!) “News.” There isn’t any news. You can find, quote-unquote, “stories” in the media about the plan to impeach Trump now. I don’t know how widespread it is, but I’m telling you it’s real. There are people, a lot of maybe pundits, but you know as well as I do: It doesn’t matter where you find a leftist, they’re leftists. They’re either disguised as journalists or elected Democrats or what have you.

So pundit, journalist, commentator, pick your poison. They are suggesting that Trump be impeached, that he is such a threat, that yesterday proves what a threat Donald Trump is. We can’t wait two weeks. We can’t wait ’til the 20th. We can’t wait for Trump to be constitutionally disempowered. We can’t wait for the peaceful transfer of power that Trump has now signaled he will participate in. We need to get rid of him now.
...
They’re scared to death of the guy, folks! They’re scared to death of the support for him that you exhibit. They are scared to death. They are deathly afraid that they will not succeed in forcing you to abandon Trump. Now, they’ve got a bunch of people in Washington who’ve thrown Trump overboard, but you haven’t, and they are probably calculating that they don’t think they will be able to.
...
Why do they care? He’s gone in 13 days. He’s gone a week from tomorrow. Why do they care? I’ve told you. Because there ain’t gonna be Trump again. Their ain’t gonna be Trump 2024. That’s what these people are aiming for. If he’s impeached, they get subsequent legislation claiming that because he’s been impeached he cannot ever run again and they think they’ve slain Godzilla.
Democrats Want to Remove Trump from Office Now
Yeah I can't think of why you'd want to get rid of a guy that can incite mob violence and has unilateral control to launch nukes from office either.

quote:

RUSH: Well, the president-elect just made my point on this double standard business. He’s out there making a speech, and he said that black rioters would have been treated much differently than the Trump rioters yesterday. I swear, folks, this disconnect… You know what? It isn’t a disconnect. They’re just saying this. They know drat well what they are doing.

Some of them do. They know drat well that they’re engaging here in just distortions of the truth and reality. What is this? African, black rioters would have been treated much differently than the rioters yesterday? You know what this is? This is an offshoot of the news narrative that started yesterday, “How the hell did they get so close? It was an attack on the Capitol Hill Police!

“It was an attack on the white Capitol Hill Police! Who the hell…? What were they thinking? How did they let these Trump supporters get so drat close?” You know, I, for one, am not convinced that these protesters yesterday were Trumpists. I think there’s plenty of Antifa people in there. I think there’s all kinds of Black Lives Matter people in there. That’s what they do.

They infiltrate. They impose themselves. Wherever there’s a riot, they show up. Sometimes they start one. How about Ferguson, Missouri? How about Baltimore, Maryland? I mean, they’ve got rent-a-mobs, and they show up everywhere, and part of the modus operandi is to see to it that people other than them get blamed for it. But here’s Biden:

African-American rioters would have been treated much differently yesterday. So the promulgation of this supposed double standard is underway, and it’s all about rewriting the truth of what happened yesterday. In fact, the real effort may be to prevent the truth of what happened yesterday from taking hold and taking root, ’cause the truth of the matter is, what happened yesterday is not what Republicans do.

Now, it is true that Trump supporters have showed up in Washington at random times to engage in protest movements and rallies, but they’ve not destroyed anything in the process. They’ve not burned anything down. That’s not who we are, if I may use the personal pronoun. It’s just not who we are. Everybody knows this is how the left operates.

They’re the ones that start fires and conduct riots and engage in civil unrest. They’re the ones that participated in 150-days plus in a row riots in Portland, nearly that many in Seattle, and yet all of that is now being laid off on Trump supporters.

The Left Sees an Entirely Different Double Standard Than We Do
Because the right wingers never do any violence whatsoever. :fuckoff:

User Error
Aug 31, 2006

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013


:yeshaha:
:yeshaha:
:yeshaha:

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Hahahahah holy poo poo is this real?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Twelve by Pies posted:

Right, but like I said, the question is if this was a one time "gently caress you" to Mitch for not giving them the stimulus checks and they fall in line after this, or if Trump really has depressed turnout.

I feel like it's kind of wishful thinking to assume that this weakens the Republicans by any significant measure. Two years under the "radical communist leftist" Biden regime may make them feel empowered to vote in large numbers again, especially if Trump tries to keep them under his sway and endorses midterm candidates. Then again it might not. If Trump really has turned off a statistically significant portion of right wingers from voting hey that's great, but I'm a bit more hesitant to proclaim that. State legislatures are going to make huge pushes to make voting harder and more restricted, and that could give Republicans the edge to regain control of the House/Senate even if Trump takes away R voters.


We're also due for some seriously hard economic times soon (although taking the senate may help some) and every god damned bit of it is going to be hung on Biden and democrats. It's very much a pattern and conservatives will be getting a lot of heavy reporting about the debt and the deficit now.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

BigglesSWE posted:

Hahahahah holy poo poo is this real?

it's a real Kelly comic yeah (he's the political cartoonist for The Onion), but it's from a few weeks back (December 18th)

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
How the gently caress can I get Rush Limbaugh cancelled before he dies?

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.

BigglesSWE posted:

Hahahahah holy poo poo is this real?

Yup: https://www.theonion.com/life-and-limbaugh-1845910736


pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

How the gently caress can I get Rush Limbaugh cancelled before he dies?
If they're not willing to dump him after the last 30 years they never will. Fucker lived a life of luxury getting paid to poison the minds of millions of people, helped gently caress over any chance of positive change, actively contributed to climate denial which will doom billions to their deaths, and he'll skate out without being so much as mildly inconvenienced. I think the worst that happened to him is he got cancelled on ESPN for being racist and he witnessed a black guy getting elected President.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and he got caught with dick pills while traveling to a known sex tourist location so he was publicly humiliated for at least a few months.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008


Impatient queen of queens

Linked url for it being risqué

https://gfycat.com/tepidwearyfurseal

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

Like a Ben Garrison cartoon but not made by a shitstain, I love it.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better


Cancer beam, from God's hand to your body.

Vichan posted:

Like a Ben Garrison cartoon but not made by a shitstain, I love it.

It's from the Onion by a satire cartoonist named Kelly, there's hundreds of these if you like it

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Some women was on Limbaugh today going "THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER SEVER MY LINK WITH TRUMP" and I couldn't stop laughing.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Despera posted:

Some women was on Limbaugh today going "THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER SEVER MY LINK WITH TRUMP" and I couldn't stop laughing.

"I keep trying to get psychic messages from dear leader but all I get is a craving for Diet Coke and McDonalds Hambugers"

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Despera posted:

Some women was on Limbaugh today going "THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER SEVER MY LINK WITH TRUMP" and I couldn't stop laughing.

Trump is a changeling? That’s...unsettling to think about.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Well they were genocidal xenophobes who enjoyed having subservient races and yes men.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Taerkar posted:

Well they were genocidal xenophobes who enjoyed having subservient races and yes men.
Look when Limbaugh dies they can just take him to the Dominion cloning vats and pump another one out

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
I guess we'll find him on Gab now?

USA Today posted:

Radio host Rush Limbaugh's Twitter account has been deactivated.

Twitter confirmed to USA TODAY that the account wasn't suspended but "deactivated by the owner."

The social media platform permanently banned President Donald Trump Friday, citing the risk that he would incite further violence. He had 88.6 million followers.

Twitter, which had locked Trump out of his account Wednesday for inflammatory posts after a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol, lifted the suspension the following day after he removed the offending tweets. Twitter warned it would suspend Trump permanently if he continued to violate its rules.

...

Trump allies and conservatives have cried censorship over Trump's ban. Twitter also permanently suspended the @TeamTrump account for ban evasion, the company said late Friday.

Late Friday, President Trump tweeted from the @POTUS Twitter account, accusing Twitter of silencing him and his supporters. All four tweets were then deleted.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/01/08/rush-limbaugh-leaves-twitter-following-trump-ban/6605864002/

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Rush has said multiple times on his show that he doesn't care about Twitter and only really has it because he sort of felt obligated. I think he was probably honest about that, he rarely went to Twitter to find comments on things, and it was no skin off his back to just have some intern run it with his name on it. But yeah, with a lot of right wingers shutting down their accounts in protest of Trump's ban(s), I don't know if we'll see Rush go to Gab or Parler. He isn't active on social media in that way, and he has no real reason to set up shop on either place.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1347710429376741381

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Fox don't care about your feelings.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Does anyone know if Fox and the rest are sticking with "it was Antifa!!" in light of all the righties being out and proud on their social media about heading to the Capitol to smash windows and get some mob justice?

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Zwabu posted:

Does anyone know if Fox and the rest are sticking with "it was Antifa!!" in light of all the righties being out and proud on their social media about heading to the Capitol to smash windows and get some mob justice?

you don't even have to go that far. they're even saying it in the white house on camera

https://twitter.com/lyne_ian/status/1347829726941888514

that duck
Mar 23, 2013

Zwabu posted:

Does anyone know if Fox and the rest are sticking with "it was Antifa!!" in light of all the righties being out and proud on their social media about heading to the Capitol to smash windows and get some mob justice?

Fox has memory-holed everything that happened on Wednesday. The only story they're talking about now is "Big Tech Censoring Conservatives."

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1347314951006912512?s=20
https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1347315581251411969?s=20

A masked fan comes up and recoils and says "coronavirus" when he reached out for a handshake haha

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



It will never not make me angry that he's still a free man with all of the heinous poo poo he's done

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

that duck posted:

Fox has memory-holed everything that happened on Wednesday. The only story they're talking about now is "Big Tech Censoring Conservatives."

Reminder that on Wednesday night, after the coup, Sean Hannity opened his show talking about how it was fake news that he'd been banned from Olive Garden and he talked about how much he loved its food.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

FlamingLiberal posted:

It will never not make me angry that he's still a free man with all of the heinous poo poo he's done

Seems like some smart leftist could bait him into illegal poo poo

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

that duck posted:

Fox has memory-holed everything that happened on Wednesday. The only story they're talking about now is "Big Tech Censoring Conservatives."

There are seven articles on the Fox News homepage alone right now with “Capitol Riot” or “Capitol Rioter” in the headline. Fox News isn’t a good source for news but I’ve been very curious about how they would report on this and they are actually reporting this story as what it is. They aren’t calling it a protest or sweeping it under the rug.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

GutBomb posted:

There are seven articles on the Fox News homepage alone right now with “Capitol Riot” or “Capitol Rioter” in the headline. Fox News isn’t a good source for news but I’ve been very curious about how they would report on this and they are actually reporting this story as what it is. They aren’t calling it a protest or sweeping it under the rug.

That is still right wing media spin. The story is just way too big to ignore like they normally would with a bad thing so they're doing damage control. It wasn't a riot it was an attempted coup and they loving god drat well know that but they're gonna do the fascist propaganda thing where they twist words and lie. With riot they can leave the impression that it was some kind of unpredictable chaos that nobody could have seen coming and really it was antifa agitators that caused it and did all the bad things everyone else was just there to MAGA.

that duck
Mar 23, 2013

GutBomb posted:

There are seven articles on the Fox News homepage alone right now with “Capitol Riot” or “Capitol Rioter” in the headline. Fox News isn’t a good source for news but I’ve been very curious about how they would report on this and they are actually reporting this story as what it is. They aren’t calling it a protest or sweeping it under the rug.

Yeah I saw them, right underneath the big block of Big Tech Censorship stories. Meanwhile, Tucker, the face of the network, voiced some conspiracy theories and has been on the tech story nonstop.

Edit: and now the Fox News website has moved onto impeachment news. So the first headline about the coup is underneath that AND all the Censorship stories.

that duck fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jan 10, 2021

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Despera posted:

Seems like some smart leftist could bait him into illegal poo poo

Considering he broke into the office of a senator and placed a recording device and faced minimal consequences, he'd still get away with it.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Testekill posted:

Considering he broke into the office of a senator and placed a recording device and faced minimal consequences, he'd still get away with it.
Yes along with the attempted date rape of that reporter

The guy's too connected to go down, it seems like. He would be in federal prison but his dad is or was a US Attorney I think

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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
In the interest of hating myself I looked to see what Rush was up to on Friday.

quote:

We target people who don’t agree with us, and we try to persuade them. We try to convince people by trying to reach their hearts and minds. We attempt to persuade. We attempt to enter the arena of ideas and focus on people who disagree with us and either tell them they’re wrong about us and who we are, that they’re being lied to about it, or we try to explain what it is we really believe. The left doesn’t give a rat’s rear end about any of that.

Their objective is to make it impossible for people to support us because we’re a bunch of racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes. We’re anti-civil rights, we’re anti-social justice, we’re anti-justice, we’re racists, we’re pigs, we’re white supremacists. They don’t care what’s true or not. They just want to poison the water. We on the other hand really do attempt to change their minds, those who disagree with us. And it’s a very challenging thing to try to do. I’ve been doing it for 30 years.

Now, in the process, you know, I will be honest if I think some liberal Democrat here or there’s a reprobate, I’ll say so. But our focus is not lying about their character or their politics.

Just an absolute load of poo poo. "We try to persuade them" my rear end. He literally loving said that liberals and conservatives cannot coexist and have nothing in common.

quote:

When the Democrats win the White House it’s time to nominate Supreme Court justices, what do we do? We vote for them by 98 to 97%. We give the Democrats what they want on the theory that they won the election, they should get their judges. We don’t set up satellite power offices and try to run operations to undermine the newly elected Democrat administration. It’s not who we are.

Well he's right there, there definitely hasn't been any point in recent history when Republicans refused to nominate a supreme court justice to attempt to undermine a Democratic administration!

Oh by the way when Rush said that he wanted more violence? He actually didn't say he wanted more violence, obviously!

quote:

Did I “dismiss calls to end the violence”? Did I make fun of people who were calling for an end to violence? Did I tell them to shut up? Did I make fun of ’em, mock ’em, and say, “Oh, listen to these cowards”? Did I do any of that? So, where does this come from? Where does this “Limbaugh dismisses calls to end violence” come from? I may not have joined the chorus and actually said, “Ladies and gentlemen, we must condemn violence,” ’cause I’m not a conventional wisdom guy.

I do not go with the flow. If everybody else is saying it, I don’t — and if everybody else is thinking it, I don’t think it. But it doesn’t mean that I’m saying the opposite. So here’s how this story begins: “Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh took a dismissive tone to those calling for an end to violence after the ugly scenes of a mob insurrection at the Capitol, comparing the rioters to the colonists who sparked the American Revolution,” and then they quote me.

“‘We’re supposed to be horrified by the protesters,’ Limbaugh said, ‘There’s a lot of people out there calling for the end of violence. A lot of conservatives on social media who say that any violence or aggression at all is unacceptable, regardless of the circumstances.'” Well, yep, I did say that, and that’s pretty broad sweeping, isn’t it? Lots of conservatives on social media who say that any violence or aggression at all is unacceptable, regardless of the circumstances.

And I added, “I’m glad Sam Adams and Thomas Paine and the actual Tea Party guys, the men at Lexington and Concord didn’t feel that way.” So that becomes “Limbaugh dismissing calls to end violence.” Nope. All it means is that I refused the join the gigantic cog of conventional wisdom and thinking and speaking.

“Limbaugh said Wednesday’s unrest was a result of months of American citizens being ‘fed up’ with left-leaning political activism in the country. ‘Yesterday, hundreds of thousands of people — Americans who have gotten tired of being ignored and lied about and smeared as racists by these very Democrats in the media and the popular culture,’ Limbaugh said. ‘Americans who have gotten fed up with having elections stolen from them by the Democrats, including the White House. Now they think two more Senate seats have been stolen, and they thought they were going to be stolen even before the election.’ Other conservative voices were highly critical of the mob, unlike Limbaugh.”

You liberal liars, just because he brought up Sam Adams and Thomas Paine while he was talking about the protesters doesn't mean he was linking them with the protesters! And just because he said he was glad those people fought a violent revolution doesn't mean he thinks violent revolutions are actually good!

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