Charles posted:

They said the electronics are rated to 120C

Godholio posted:

It gets really hot over pavement.

Even hotter inside a car.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

im pretty confident that Rivian's engineering team is competent unlike some other EV startups

Westy543 posted:

Yeah, with dems controlling all 3 bodies, it should be easier for Biden to restore the tax credit to domestic vehicles. That'd be perfect for my lease ending on my Volt in a year and change.


hey, be nice to nissan

Westy543 posted:

Yeah, with dems controlling all 3 bodies, it should be easier for Biden to restore the tax credit to domestic vehicles. That'd be perfect for my lease ending on my Volt in a year and change.


hey, be nice to nissan

Shamino posted:

Biden wants/wanted to remove the ev tax credit fwiw

quote:

Making clean vehicles affordable by giving consumers a substantial cash voucher to trade-in their gas-powered cars and buy a U.S.-assembled and affordable plug-in electric, plug-in hybrid, or hydrogen fuel cell car.

quote:

 Consumers wishing to trade in a gas vehicle for a new vehicle could receive a point of
sale rebate starting at $3000, and ramping up based on the zero-emission range of the
vehicle.
 In order to ensure lower income families benefit from this program, consumers with
household incomes less than or equal to 200 percent of the federal poverty would receive
an additional $2000 rebate for new vehicles, or a 20% rebate to purchase used vehicles
built prior to the program taking effect.
 An additional incentive worth an additional 50% of the base incentive would also be
available for vehicles made in America with strong labor standards, as well as $500 for
vehicles with 50% domestic content and a US manufactured battery. These bonus
vouchers would convey to consumers for the first time in a simple way which models are
made in America with strong labor standards, and give them an incentive to buy those
vehicles.
 To receive a voucher, consumers would first pre-certify their gas-powered trade in
vehicle through a Department of Transportation (DOT) website to certify their vehicle is
eligible to trade-in under the program, and to also look up the voucher value for the
vehicle they would like to purchase under the program. Their trade-in vehicle must be at
least 8 years old and in driving condition.
 Once a consumer receives DOT certification, that person would take their vehicle to a
dealer or any other registered business that will properly dispose of the vehicle, and will
receive a voucher once the vehicle is turned in.

Wibla posted:

-25F? That's not particularly impressive.

DoomTrainPhD posted:

Joe’s biggest donors are oil and gas companies lol

Shamino posted:

Shamino posted:

Biden wants/wanted to remove the ev tax credit fwiw

DoomTrainPhD posted:

I think you are misunderstanding. The chamber goes to 125, the parts while operating get hotter than that.

mobby_6kl posted:

Somebody parked an Enyaq on my street yesterday.





Looks like I didn't get a profile pic but it looks... fine, like a slightly chunkier version of the Hyundai wagon in front of it, not a giant SUV.

VideoGameVet posted:

I started a 1971 Chevy Caprice at -40ºF/ºC in 1975 or so. Lyndonville VT.

How? Jump start from a Semi that had been running all night long.

It didn't sound so good.

Wibla posted:

I cold-started a 1987 Mazda 626 in -22F once, it very nearly didn't want to, we figured out that the coolant was probably slush a bit later

McTinkerson posted:

Is it mentioned in the maintenance manuals for the EVs that have water cooled systems that the freezing point of the coolant should be checked regularly? Same for the pH? It's already a neglected item on ICE vehicles, I suspect it will be even worse with EVs.

harperdc posted:

-25 F start at like 9 pm outside Denver Airport for my E30 BMW 3-series, I'm convinced it only wanted to start because I'd just taken it for an oil change. Still took the radio about an hour to warm up and start working.

Charles posted:

It's mentioned a few times in my Kia Soul manual. I haven't looked yet but it seems pretty accessible.

McPhearson posted:

The i3 has a "coolant reservoir for drive" that is for the electric motor and other electric systems, not the battery. I imagine it's the same thing for the Soul.

Finger Prince posted:

I neglect the poo poo out of it in my Prius and its fine when I do occasionally get it checked. Is it pink and is there enough? It's fine.

E- I'm sure there's some conventional wisdom (if not outright instruction) by now like "don't leave a car parked outside overnight in -40C without the block heater plugged in and maybe a battery warmer if you want to start it in the morning" with ICE cars, only "don't leave an EV parked outside overnight in -40C without the charger plugged in if you want it to turn on in the morning".

ilkhan posted:

Standard range / RWD model Y is now on their site.

gwrtheyrn posted:

Wasn't this something they said they had cancelled?

DoomTrainPhD posted:

I actually don’t! I have experience with DC Fast charging which is why I was hired. Rivian looked at all the other CCS chargers out there and the vast majority of them are quite ugly! So we decided to make our own.

Jimmy Carter posted:

please tell me it's going to be better than whatever trash EVGo/Electrify America uses that will error out 5 times before it actually starts a charging session.

Jimmy Carter posted:

please tell me it's going to be better than whatever trash EVGo/Electrify America uses that will error out 5 times before it actually starts a charging session.

also: shout-out to whomever made the decision to use an induction stove in the cooking module you shove in the side tunnel. It's going to be effectively impossible to use gas camp stoves out West going forward what with the whole 'wildfires wipe out a town or three every year' thing.

Ola posted:

Is there some open source CCS code somewhere?

DoomTrainPhD posted:

Not really. The entire system is quite complicated. The closest you are going to get is:
RISE-V2G
or
OpenV2G

RISE-V2G focuses on just ISO15118 whereas OpenV2G has ISO15118 and DIN70121 (the predecessor to ISO15118.)

The big issue you will run into is that an entire CCS system is quite complex. You need (at a minimum):

- A dispenser cabinet unit (DCU): A board that lives in the actual dispenser you plug the car into
- A Power cabinet unit (PCU): A board that lives in the power cabinets
- A power isolation monitoring device (IMD): Ensure you don't kill people.
- A power energy module (PEM): The board that opens the relays to give power to the EV itself.

Not to mention all the peripherals you need such as coolant pumps, fans, humidity and pressure sensors, etc etc.

You could probably combine the PCU and IMD, but then you have to go through high voltage UL certification which is a pain.

In our case, the DCU's and PCU's are running Buildroot as I happen to be a developer and maintainer.

Edit*
For the first year on this project, I used 3 BeagleBone Blacks with CANBUS capes for testing.
1 for the PEV
1 for the DCU
1 for the PCU

Edit edit*
CCS is just a ton of XMLS messages over TCP or TLS (DIN uses TCP, ISO15118 uses TLS.)

Ola posted:

Thank you very much for this! It's about time I started learning about this. In your opinion, could you use the CCS logic without DC power in order to do fancy AC charging with car ID? Perhaps with updates to the protocol?

DoomTrainPhD posted:

The big issue with AC charging is there isn't much logic to it. The EV changes a PWM signal to tell the charger how much power it needs, and that's about it. To answer your question though, yeah, the protocol could be updated, but it probably won't happen.