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1982 Subaru Brat posted:I got as far as "the rock gets removed from memory but link is still holding it, letting you do something or other" and then my vision started swimming and I spoke with my ancestors in the code link is not holding a rock, he is holding an address where rock lives. rock got evicted at a bad time because the game thought the rock was very far away. but link still had an address to SOMETHING UNDEFINED (evil, evil, evil). it turned out to be a bush, but not really a bush, but the game really wanted to treat it like a bush and in doing so it overwrote a pointer/address on the not-bush with link's angle data, and when the not-bush's pointer was called by the code that thought it was a real bush to rotate and be drawn it for a single frame, due to the data about links angle and file name data being identical to an address to a different bit of code that when run caused links data to get overwritten by the debug file, gave link everything in the game. its very wicked and sinful
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And thus after killing most of Ganondorf's guardians, Link finally gets around to dealing with that whole infested Deku Tree thing, before warping off to slay the rest of them.
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Jan 10, 2021 09:53
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Damaging the boss under the arena before the fight, nice
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Jan 10, 2021 09:57
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Remotely clearing bosses, as Link lays back in his bed and and SRM nukes Ganon from 7 years in the past.
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Jan 10, 2021 10:00
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drat it that fish was important after all!
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the main thing to know about computers is that they are loving stupid and will do anything you hand at them. you contain this by making sure you only tell it to do things in specific circumstances, but when you make the game do things when it shouldnt be doing something, it blitheringly continues on and the runners are making a fool of it by doing the equivalent of bart calling up moe and going I'm Looking For A 0x1FC00800, Do You Have A 0x1FC00800 There and then moe gives Bart infinite power and warps him to bongo bongo
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And umm, time...
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Well that was anticlimactic
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I look away for a moment and suddenly credits.
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Wow, i got bored at looked away at the 3rd miss and suddenly i hear "TIME" like what
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like basically here Link Pick Up Thing In Front Of Him command gets delayed and run after the thing he is trying to pick up got dereferenced so when it wanted to make the bush get drawn, fall and go poof it instead ran code that made the game run code to win the game. easy to understand lets all go get wasted
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My favorite instance of that is always going to be super Mario land 2 where you go out of bounds and fall into a level that is being generated from various other parts of the ram instead of the actual level data. It's mostly garbage and then you can barely manage to navigate to a ? Block that is the space where the game stores if the next time you load a new map it should play the ending sequence or not, and hitting that changes it from false to true.
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Guess, guess we really don't need to deal with that whole Ganondorf thing after all, surely leaving the reincarnation of pure evil will be fine, surely...
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SeXReX posted:My favorite instance of that is always going to be super Mario land 2 where you go out of bounds and fall into a level that is being generated from various other parts of the ram instead of the actual level data. It's mostly garbage and then you can barely manage to navigate to a ? Block that is the space where the game stores if the next time you load a new map it should play the ending sequence or not, and hitting that changes it from false to true. this is how the matrix works, canonically
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Jan 10, 2021 10:06
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and the marathon ends on page 69 e: but wait, a challenger approaches
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we spent years figuring out how to travel between places without bothering with "doors" this is literally the backstory to Portal
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French Accent posted:as much as i like oot, its optimized runs have become a story of manipulating data to get to the end. this wasn't really finale worthy but at least i still got wowed by some of the new tricks. I find it interesting it's gotten to the point where you can manipulate the data by just doing certain actions, even if those actions aren't necessarily the most exciting things to watch happen.
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French Accent posted:as much as i like oot, its optimized runs have become a story of manipulating data to get to the end. this wasn't really finale worthy but at least i still got wowed by some of the new tricks. yeah I was wondering why they didn't swap this and pokemon on the schedule for most of the run
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Tiler Kiwi posted:in the code link is not holding a rock, he is holding an address where rock lives. rock got evicted at a bad time because the game thought the rock was very far away. but link still had an address to SOMETHING UNDEFINED (evil, evil, evil). it turned out to be a bush, but not really a bush, but the game really wanted to treat it like a bush and in doing so it overwrote a pointer/address on the not-bush with link's angle data, and when the not-bush's pointer was called by the code that thought it was a real bush to rotate and be drawn it for a single frame, due to the data about links angle and file name data being identical to an address to a different bit of code that when run caused links data to get overwritten by the debug file, gave link everything in the game. I've only done amateur tinkering but I guess this is why <null> is an object type, instead of being null in a more literal sense. Terrifying vistas of reality Man was not meant to behold, etc.
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14 different damage properties, it truly is the Master Sword.
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The Shame Boy posted:I find it interesting it's gotten to the point where you can manipulate the data by just doing certain actions, even if those actions aren't necessarily the most exciting things to watch happen. i mean in a technical sense you are always manipulating data by doing things in games, the magic here is that its trying to read the stuff that was writing stuff about link farting around as an address to something that can be executed and they know how to screw with the data in the exact right sense
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Link no, stop bending the universe like that. No stop! *Gossip Stone merges with Link*
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French Accent posted:as much as i like oot, its optimized runs have become a story of manipulating data to get to the end. this wasn't really finale worthy but at least i still got wowed by some of the new tricks. yeah pretty much agreed here. This is kinda like, "oh, okay, that's insane and kinda neat," but I'm not enthralled like I was with Beat Saber.
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Link has all the keys... except the key to my heart.
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French Accent posted:as much as i like oot, its optimized runs have become a story of manipulating data to get to the end. this wasn't really finale worthy but at least i still got wowed by some of the new tricks. Pokemon Gen 1 arbitrary code is a tough act to follow
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looks like team hyrule is blasting off again
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note: Link died floating back towards his home planet edit: Limbo Link, how loooow can you gooooo
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Link’s got that lean
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100% SRM is more interesting since you still have to collect every item from source. I don't think that run is in a marathon ready state though.
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Glitch boots has merged Link with the Speed Force
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And now he’s high
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And then Link was crushed into a ball while flying at an ever increasing speed.
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xdad loading Ganon's Castle has to have some hidden meaning to sombody working on the game back in the 90's we will never fully understand
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Ganon is daddy
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Ahh, see Ganon went with Tie-Die over earthen brown for his castle, a wise choice.
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