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Broken Box posted:Which corp owns Tokyo Bay Fortress? Where is that located again?
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Broken Box posted:Which corp owns Tokyo Bay Fortress? Red Lobster. It has been rebranded as the Cheddar Bay Fortress. Shitposts aside, chances are if it's related to Tokyo Bay, it is 900% Renraku-owned since their headquarters are literally right there in Chiba.
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I don't know, I feel like fortresses are more of a Mitsuhama thing.
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KataraniSword posted:Red Lobster. It has been rebranded as the Cheddar Bay Fortress. Didn’t that area get wrecked when the Ring of Fire blew it’s top? Wait, no; that was Yokohama. And now the Greater Tokyo Metropolitan Area has all been folded into Neo-Tokyo (I figured they’d call it either Shin-Tokyo for the Japanese or Tokyo 2 for the Eva reference, but I guess the Shadowrun writers are rather uncreative on that point).
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Come on, it's Tokyo in a cyberpunk setting. It HAS to be called Neo-Tokyo. I think there might be a law on the book about that.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Come on, it's Tokyo in a cyberpunk setting. It HAS to be called Neo-Tokyo. I think there might be a law on the book about that. Neo Kobe was grandfathered in
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Part 05 - Kindness of Strangers NEW MUSIC:  (It's The Haven: Hong Kong edition! And it's likewise a very nice track! Also really long especially for LP purposes, almost 6 minutes without looping, so I've slightly edited it down to "just" 5 minutes. Well worth listening all the way through at least once though.)    No sign of cops. But I don't see a mahjong parlor.They never did give us proper directions, did they. Guess we need to look around and hope our "flair" doesn't draw any negative attention from the locals in the meantime. Really don't have the space on our plate for any more of that right now.  Maybe it's this building right next to the MTR entrance? Nothing's indicating that anyone's battling it out with tiles in there, but maybe it's the type that doesn't advertise to outsiders.  Maybe not. We were warned not to wander around, but if this Kindly Cheng is as hard a woman as we've heard, it might be prudent to secure a source of medical supplies ahead of time. Let's try the buzzer.   Is this a medical clinic? No, it's a chicken factory. What... do... you... want? I'm looking for a medical clinic. Yeah, that's me. But listen lady, I don't know you. I don't like people I don't know. Who sent you? I'm friends with Is0bel and Gobbet.Super tight with the pair, ask anyone and they'll tell you that the number of conversations we've engaged in definitely exceeds "one". Although it could depend on how they're counting. Yeah? Those two drag some real prizes out of the river. You get Nightjar to vouch for you, I'll consider giving you the time of day. Got it? Nightjar is dead.[There's a long silence on the intercom.] Crying shame if that's true... and I saw that one coming. So you just washed up with Is0bel and Gobbet, huh? You know what that tells me? You're here today, and you'll be gone tomorrow. I'll keep my distance. Alright, I'm going.Alternatively: quote:
 The neon sign game of this town really is on a different level from back home. This nightclub is clearly not the place we're looking for, and if ever were much of a partygoer, this definitely isn't the time.  Southeast from the club towards the water is some kinda floating tech shop. The person running this place sure likes it flashy. Might get downright crispy for someone if they don't do anything about this wiring.  To the northeast is a closed shop and past that, an rusty old trawler that looks like it only stays afloat because the sea actively refuses to take it in.  Pretty lame name for a boat too. Bet we'd make for a much better boat-namer if we were in the business.  East from the rust bucket is a pretty foreboding-looking building which also doesn't look like the place we're looking for. Some people gathered around a board game here too, must be real dedicated players going at it out here in the rain.  Back west a bit, a man standing on one of the numerous rafts catches our eye.   He seems friendly enough for a chat. You from around here? No, not I. Not here. Plan's to leave these waters soon as I wrangle up enough supplies to do so.[He leans toward you, voice lower, breath surprisingly free of alcohol.] There are things happening here... locals call 'em dreams. I call 'em *evil.* And I don't want no more of that. What did you dream about? Does it matter? All I remember clearly is how I felt during and after - drained, as if these "dreams" leeched away some of my good years. No, no. No more of that. If you know what's good for you, you'll leave too.Being awake is feeling plenty draining right now, and you're telling us that sleeping's going to be just as bad here? It's just all good news today, isn't it. I'm not in a position to leave right now.[His over-large smile turns into a deep frown.] That's a right shame, my friend. I suggest you try and find yourself a way out. Nothing good can come of these... "dreams." They'll get inside of you. Scar you. Changing the topic... These goods of yours look like they've changed hands a few times. You selling stolen merchandise?[He shrugs, the motion nonchalant and uncaring.] I take what I can get. Sometimes I find things, sometimes I take things, and sometimes I play the game. Invest a little. Make a little something more in return.[He crosses his arms and looks you over.] And why do you ask? You judging a perfectly respectable businessman such as myself in these harsh times? You've never been in this business. I can see it. You've no right to fault me. You're right, I haven't. And if I were, I'd probably be doing the same thing. It's not a bad line of work. Sure, it's a step below honest. But it's a step above shadowrunning. We've got to keep our integrity, right?We could lie and claim that we're a runner ourselves with a Charisma 2 option here, but we don't really have any good reason to do so and it doesn't lead to anything special anyway. Who says you can't run and keep your integrity? I do. Done a fair number of deals with runners. Can't say I've met one with a lick of decency left. Don't get me wrong. They're great customers... just lack a moral compass. And what would you say if I told you I'm a runner?[His nostrils flare, and he leans back, looking you over. A burst of laughter cracks through his surprise.] If you're a runner, you're greener than a spring tree! Ahh, but I like you. So you take an old sailor's advice: don't get too caught up in it. Hold on to yourself.[He pounds his chest with his fist.] Now, I'm nearly stocked up here. Just a few more trades, and a few more sales, and I'll be on my way to Macau. This is your last chance to buy my wares before I set sail, so have a look. Macau? What are you going to do there? I mostly just need to escape this place. But I also hear the markets in Macau are less regulated than Hong Kong, without a HKPF and all that. And the food... Well, I hear it's worth a trip all of its own. Then I guess I'd better buy something before you head out. Aye, that'd help a man out. Go ahead and have a look. Take your time. The smuggler is the first merchant we've come across and sells a variety of basic wares, such as the bottom-tier grenades and medical supplies we've already seen. There's also a program and an ESP for deckers to use in Matrix combat available, programs being the Matrix equivalent of spells and ESPs self-refreshing consumables that summon digital combat helpers.  For shamans there's one first-tier summoning fetish for conjuring up spirits on the go without the need for a pre-established summoning spot. Unlike ESPs, Fetishes that don't belong to crew members are consumed for good which is kind of problematic if the player is a shaman because these things eventually get real expensive and money is rather tight in this game.  Finally, there's the offensive goods, a basic Manabolt I spell for Mages and a low-tier weapon for each type. The Ruger 100-S is somewhat notable in that while it's the "worst" sniper rifle in the game, it's not actually that much worse than the best sniper rifle in the game and 16 damage is a lot at this stage, so a rifle specialist or someone looking to give Duncan a present can pick up some pretty solid long-range firepower right off the bat.  But while the children were playing with their toy guns, we studied the blade, and now we can finally live the real dream: Blowing half our life savings on a lovely knock-off katana!  Alright, so stats-wise the Katana is only one damage above the Machete, but it being something resembling an actual sword does give us access to the one Melee Weapon ability we have, namely:  Thrust: Melee attack with -10% accuracy that deals no AP damage but +2 HP damage and pierces 2 Armor. Cost: 1 AP.Thrust is an okay early game ability which deals considerably more damage against armored opponents than a basic attack. Forgoing the AP damage is a real downside, though AP damage is only really relevant if it's enough to stun the enemy and right now that requires two hits in a row as our melee crits don't deal 2 AP damage until we have 8 Strength.  While we're here, we sell off most of our starting stuff we won't be using for a pretty decent sum.  On the southeast edge of the docks is a real cheerily decorated raft, "Reliable Matthew's Robot Bazaar" according to the sign. We're not really in the robot business, but maybe we'll come back to take a better look later.  Nearby we finally reach our destination, the mahjong parlor. Here's hoping those two runners have been successful in convincing that triad woman. NEW MUSIC:  (A pleasant little tune, one not present on the official soundtrack.)   Seems like a pretty nice place all in all, in better times we might even feel like stopping to play a game or two.  Come in. We have a lot to talk about.  Alright. Let's see where this goes.   [She dips a pinkie into a shot glass, brings it to her mouth. Removes it with a sharp smack.] How two of my best runners had their heads put out. How you need protection. And how you need to get your identities wiped before you get *your* heads put out too. Potentially leading the heat to my front door, placing me and everyone in my employ in danger.[She fingers the rim of her glass.] So wise. So very, very wise.[The young shaman's eyes never leave the floor.]  We're sorry, Auntie. We thought-- [Her black eyes flash.] You mustn't speak until you are spoken to, Gobbet dear.[The smile turns mean.] And since you are one *short-hair* away from being dumped in the river chained to Is0bel's corpse, I suggest you let your new friends here do the talking for a while. [Her treacle-voice is back - sweet, nasal, and grinding.] Does that make sense to you, dear?[Dark circles ring Gobbet's armpits.] Yes, Auntie.[Cheng inclines her head gently.] Very good. You learn so quickly.We could and perhaps should stay quiet here, but the shaman saved our lives back there. This kinda lashing doesn't seem fair. Gobbet kept a very cool head in a tense situation. She's the one who led us out of the police ambush. [Her voice remains cloyingly sweet.] I count little Gobbet here among my most resourceful runners but I admit, it's good to have... outside validation from time to time. [The look of gratitude from the young rat shaman is deeply sincere and exceedingly brief.] [Her voice sweetens again.] Can you do that for me?Better be careful, this lady's definitely not messing around. Gobbet seems to be calling her "Auntie", guessing that's the proper moniker to use around here. Yes, Auntie. Ah, a show of respect![She smiles with her mouth. Her eyes remain glassy cold.] Good girl.[She pours another drink. Her cheeks are rosy - already flushed.] Now my darlings, I understand from little Rat-poo poo here that you came from Seattle to meet with my client, Mr. Black. [Wu's jaw tightens at the word "client."] But before you could find him, the HKPF started splattering gray matter everywhere and everything went to poo poo. And now you need your SINs burned so you can disappear before you end up dead too. Is that right? Yes ma'am. Is that possible? [She smiles.] It's 2056. All things are possible. Why don't we start with you telling me who you are?We can give our street name, last name, or stay quiet. Considering what we're here for, the middle one probably makes the most sense. My name is Black. And have you got a first name, Black? A profession? I mean, you do want me to erase your identities, don't you, dear? I'll need to know who you are first. Shin. I'm a close-combat specialist - the magical kind.[She rests her chin on her hand.] Mmm. You like to get up close and personal with your killing. And how did you become an adept, Shin?We can leave this vague or lie in a few different ways, claiming we were military, corp-trained or ex-private security. It doesn't make a difference though, so we might as well tell it how it is. Picked it up young. I've been in the cooler for a few.[Wu's brow furrows and he shakes his head.] Still can't believe it.  "Gun Show"? [Wu's focus remains straight ahead.] Duncan Wu. I'm a cop. Lone Star. I hear there were some fresh corpses found on the docks tonight. Smugglers, I believe. Didn't sound like the Hong Kong police when I heard about it. Your doing, Duncan Wu?[Wu's eyes remain fixed on a spot on the wall behind her. He smolders.] I identified myself as Lone Star but they wouldn't stand down. They had weapons. It was self-defense.That first time anyway. Though to be fair he didn't actually end up killing anyone from that other trio. [She puckers her lips at him, her voice sing-song.] I don't care, sweetie. They weren't *my* people. But now I know you're a lifetaker, Mr. Gun Show. You and your friend here.[She begins arranging mahjong tiles on the table in front of her.] But now I'm curious - why were you meeting Raymond Black on the docks tonight?Another chance to lie, but she'll just see through it and then Duncan'll have to bail us out by telling the truth, so... Raymond Black is our foster-father. [A look of disgust passes over her face.] Sorry kids, but he was looking like poo poo when I saw him - eyes half open, dark circles around them, dragging his feet - the whole bit. [She tsks in displeasure.] Your foster-daddy was in a bad place.Seems to be running in the family. You think it was drugs?[You can hear Wu's teeth grind.] Raymond didn't *do* drugs, Shin.[Kindly Cheng wags a finger in agreement.] Of course not. Nobody's daddy does drugs, Gun Show. They all have herb gardens and read poetry books to relax after a hard day at the office.[She shrugs and inclines her head towards you.] Who knows? It could have been drugs but he was lucid most of the time. Still, if Mr. Black was on something, it was definitely some sort of hallucinogen. Tell us everything you know about him. [Gobbet tries to get the triad boss's attention off of you.] Listen Auntie, this foreigner doesn't-- [The triad boss ignores her.] Perhaps you misunderstand our relationship, Miss Black. You don't interview me, I interview you. But, I will indulge this one question, since poor Duncan Wu here looks so worried.Got a bit caught up in the moment there. Nice of Gobbet to try and save us from ourselves though. From what he said, it sounded like he was having nightmares. He would stop in the middle of a sentence and mutter something to himself. One time it was about the walls breathing or something. Another time it was about teeth. Thousands of teeth. When your old man opened his eyes they were full of tears. Then he muttered something else I couldn't make out.[She pours herself another shot, tosses it back and rubs her belly.] Your daddy got really irritating after a while.Sounds like a lot of people are sleeping poorly around here. Wonder what exactly he meant by "prosperity", should we assume that he left something valuable in the Walled City and needed help getting it back? But if so then what, an object of some kind? A person? A tiny but extremely valuable plot of land? What do you think it means? I have no loving clue.[She grabs a long, slim cigar from a pack on the mahjong table. Lights it.] All right, let's get to it.[She exhales smoke and points two fingers at you and Wu.] You two need your SINs burned and you need them burned *fast.* Hong Kong dragnets are bad news. When they roll, they roll in force. Armored personnel carriers, heavy armor, heavy weapons, sorcerers - the whole thing. And they *aren't* coming to arrest you. [She folds her arms across her chest. The thin cigar bobs in her mouth as she speaks.] The good news is, I can help you. With a wave of my hand, I can have your SINs disappear. But you need to understand, my darlings, is that what you're asking for is not a simple request. Burning a SIN isn't just deleting a number - it's wiping all reference to that number from all of the world's largest databases. Therefore, I need to make a choice. [She takes another drag on her cigar and gently places her palm flat on the table.] Do I kill you and dispose of your bodies before the cops come looking for you, or do I help you burn your SINs? I know my vote.[Cheng rests her chin on her hand again and smiles at you.] I know, my darling. You want to live. But if you're alive...Us being alive and hanging out here carries greater risks and has more potential for trouble than if we're dead, obviously. But there's more to this mess than just our own fate, not everyone involved in what went down tonight was an outsider like we are. (Academic) From what I've read about the triads, your first priority should be your reputation. Two of your people were just killed. It is a loss of Face.Shadowrunner or Gang etiquettes would also work for similar arguments.    [Kindly Cheng stubs out her cigar.] You will owe me.Yeah, that'd be the most worrisome part in all this if the only alternative wasn't even more immediately lethal. Can't say I'm surprised. [She pokes a finger in your direction.] Of course not. You seem to have an understanding of how the world works, the give and take that is a part of every fruitful relationship. I want you to deliver a message for me. To a business associate in the Walled City. The Yellow Lotus has a strong presence inside, Shin. Is0bel can tell you all about it, can't you, dear? Is0bel grew up in the Walled City.Oh? Oh right, the decker's here too. Not exactly a chatterbox, that one.  We do those things, yes. But to be fair, we also operate the Walled City's black market. You might not be alive today if it weren't for the lifeline that we provide. [Is0bel clams up tight.][Cheng picks up a mahjong tile and turns it with her fingers.] There is a Red Pole - a sort of enforcer, yes? - on the inside. His name is Strangler Bao. Bao is a strong man, a good soldier, but he has forgotten his place. I need you to remind him.They have an interesting sense of names in this town. Although seeing as we're talking to a Kindly Cheng here, maybe they're all just highly ironic and Strangler Bao is actually a complete puppy dog famous for his warm and gentle hugs. Let me guess. By "remind him," you mean "put a bullet in his head." No. If I wanted him dead, I would have said so. Don't jump to conclusions, you aren't any good at it.[She tosses you a memory stick.] This is a message for Bao. You will deliver it to him in my name, and then return to me. Remember, Shin... Bao's men are *my* men. By right, they should all be serving *me.* I would prefer it if you did this quietly, and without killing them. I have no use for dead soldiers.  Yes, Auntie. Now... I'm gonna find out who ordered the hit on Nightjar and do some dentistry on him with power tools. [She closes her eyes and smiles with pleasure.] That boy was my favorite. He sang to me sometimes.[She opens her eyes again and sneers.] That other one, I don't care about. Gutshot was an rear end in a top hat. [She turns away and waves you off with the back of her hand.] That will be all, my darlings. Return to me when you are done. One last question, Auntie?[She keeps her back to you, but you can tell she's making eye-contact with her lieutenant.] Why not? Apparently, I'm feeling generous today. What happened on the docks tonight?  The path leading to the Walled City is between the MTR entrance and the night club. Pretty hard to miss, it's like someone took a jagged knife to the cityscape and the wound was just left there to fester. Some triad guards are watching the road.  Uh huh. Alright thread, it's time for us to take a trip to Kowloon Walled City and for you to make the choice on who we're going to hang out with in that lovely neighborhood, Is0bel or Gobbet. Both will contribute with their own specialties, the former as a local who'll give us a chance to do our first Matrix run and the latter as a spellcaster who can let us chat with the dead.  Some random notes: - Gobbet only comes to your defense when being rude to Kindly Cheng if you came to her's earlier in the conversation. - Trying to lie to Kindly Cheng (or the clinic owner) doesn't work, but doesn't have any concerete negative consequences either and there's no way to "fail" the meeting with her. Making use of an Etiquette will come up later though. - According to the developer commentary, Heoi is based on an extended version of an existing waterway and early in pre-production was planned to have been drained of water, seemingly for technical/art reasons. The Walled City was also not originally connected to Heoi. - Kindly Cheng was conceived as the "anti-Paul Amsel". Also the devs apparently got a surprising amount of comments about people wanting to marry her. --- If one actually manages to get through the opening without killing a single smuggler, so at minimum defeating all four hostiles in the initial fight solely with Duncan's Subdue despite its stun requirement and 3-turn cooldown, Kindly Cheng acknowledges this after Duncan introduces himself: I heard about your encounter on the docks tonight. The one before the cops showed up. You managed to leave them trussed up instead of dead. Impressive. I identified myself as Lone Star but they wouldn't stand down. They had weapons.[He sighs.] There are ways out of situations without resorting to killing.[Kindly puckers her lips at him, her voice sing-song.] I don't really care, sweetie. They weren't *my* people. The question is, can you take a life when it comes down to it?--- Kindly's reactions to the various archetypes (custom is just telling her you "do what needs doing" to which she replies that "she knows the type") (Shaman) Ah, like young Gobbet here! (Decker) Ah, like little Is0bel here! I can't imagine traveling the Matrix. (Rigger) My my. It's still hard to believe someone can put their mind into a drone. Amazing. (Mage) Interesting. I must say, I've never been partial to magicians, myself. Too... otherworldly for me. (Street Samurai) Ah, yes. You're from Seattle. "Street Samurai" isn't something we say here in Hong Kong. We prefer "Street Soldier." --- Trying to feed an especially obvious lie about the meeting with Raymond to Kindly is the closest you can get to pissing her off: But now I'm curious - why were you meeting Raymond Black on the docks tonight? Just out for a stroll. It was a beautiful night. He raised us. Raymond Black is our foster father.--- Alternate final question for Kindly: How do I know you weren’t behind Raymond's disappearance? I wasn’t. But I don’t need you to believe that and I don't care if you do. But ask anyone and they’ll tell you - Kindly Cheng doesn't pull the HKPF's strings. That’s for the corps. If I wanted you gone, you'd already be decomposing.
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Is it possible to piss of Kindly enough that she doesn't help you and you get a Game Over after she (presumably) buries your rear end at the bottom of the harbor? I would guess not because it would end the game...but then again, we just saw the tutorial mission pulled no punches either so maybe.
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Jan 10, 2021 11:54
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'Kindly Cheng' is an excellent name. Pretty much tells you everything you need to know about her, right upfront.
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Jan 10, 2021 12:14
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Bring Gobbet, she tried to back us up.
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Jan 10, 2021 12:26
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MagusofStars posted:Is it possible to piss of Kindly enough that she doesn't help you and you get a Game Over after she (presumably) buries your rear end at the bottom of the harbor? No, probably the closest you can get to genuinely pissing her off is by giving an especially obvious lie about the meeting with Raymond. I'll add this stuff to the Extras section (also speaking of the Extras, I've tried to avoid using quotes this time as I realize you can't quote quotes, let me know if this is a problem) But now I'm curious - why were you meeting Raymond Black on the docks tonight? Just out for a stroll. It was a beautiful night. He raised us. Raymond Black is our foster father.
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Jan 10, 2021 12:26
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Kindly Cheng is awesome and probably one of my favourite characters in any of the Shadowrun games. She's just so different to the previous fixers, you get the feeling she really does value the people under her while at the same time wouldn't hesitate to end them if she had to. One tiny compliment from Cheng has more impact than an entire heartfelt conversation with Paul did, I feel.
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Jan 10, 2021 13:27
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Dragonfall: Here's your kiez, it's a nice place with nice people and everybody there supports your leadership. Hong Kong: You're the dirt that rubbed on Cheng's shoe and you better stay on her good side if you know what's good for you.
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Jan 10, 2021 14:13
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Fortunately we are useful dirt, and as long as that's true we have nothing to worry about.
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Jan 10, 2021 14:19
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I vote Is0bel, for local color and also because the Matrix is very different here from the previous two games.
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Jan 10, 2021 14:46
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That's true. put Is0bel in, show everyone the matrix.
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Jan 10, 2021 14:51
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Bring Is0bel, I think we could really use a local.
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Jan 10, 2021 15:05
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I vote for Is0bel, she knows the lay of the land and can do Matrix stuff.
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Jan 10, 2021 15:11
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Kindly Cheng is one of the greatest RPG NPCs in recent memory. Also, the guy we're going to put the fear of god into (well, worse for him : the fear of Auntie Cheng, which has a more immediate quality to it) is called "steamed bun". That's not a very intimidating gangster name, is it ? Probably a jolly fat little dude. Also, voting Gobbet because I always wind up bringing Izzie (which is not a very nice thing to do) Kobal2 fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jan 10, 2021 |
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Jan 10, 2021 15:28
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I have a weak spot for cute orc girls and rats, so let´s go with Gobbet
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GobbetCheeseThief posted:One tiny compliment from Cheng has more impact than an entire heartfelt conversation with Paul did, I feel. Yeah. This isn't someone who likes you automatedly because of things that happened long before the story started. If Auntie is fond of you then it's because you earned that yourself.
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Stroth posted:Yeah. This isn't someone who likes you automatedly because of things that happened long before the story started. If Auntie is fond of you then it's because you earned that yourself. Yes and no. I feel like she's kind of got that abusive partner thing going - she's a dangerous, openly threatening cast iron bitch all the time who's deliberately making you feel vulnerable and ant-like at all times ; so eventually you find yourself immensely grateful when she eases off even a little bit ... but it's ultimately a very toxic relationship. When she's good to you you're doubly under her thumb for fear she might get mean again. Kind of like Dark Souls.
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Jan 10, 2021 16:50
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I'm voting for Is0bel - I think local knowledge would be cool!
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Jan 10, 2021 16:51
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Jan 10, 2021 16:52
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Bring Is0bel. Never go anywhere without a Decker at least.
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AceOfFlames posted:Never go anywhere without a Decker at least. Did a decker write this ?
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Jan 10, 2021 17:03
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Gobbet is a more interesting character (also if we went by the logic of choosing characters because of probable need for a Decker we'd never *not* use Isobel)
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Jan 10, 2021 17:11
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DeathChicken posted:(also if we went by the logic of choosing characters because of probable need for a Decker we'd never *not* use Isobel) That’s my strategy. Feel free to disagree, though. My team was pretty much static for the time I spent with this game (still need to finish).
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Jan 10, 2021 17:16
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DeathChicken posted:Gobbet is a more interesting character (also if we went by the logic of choosing characters because of probable need for a Decker we'd never *not* use Isobel) Yeah, that's kind of a trap thought in all three games : "but I need a decker" - and you never *actually* do for relatively obvious reasons. Not having a decker might mean you'll have to blow up turrets or actually have to find the key to a door or whatever but there's always a non-decking solution to every problem. The only thing you're ever losing by not bringing a decker is paydata. At least in HK, Is0bel is actually a badass in her own rights - she's not *just* a decker, she also makes thing go boom-boom and she knows a lot of poo poo besides nerd stuff. But, like, the moment you have that game design lightbulb is the moment you realize you don't need Blitz. At all. It's quite liberating.
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Jan 10, 2021 17:21
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Honestly, you get so much Karma in these games that there's very little downside to just being your own decker if you want one, unless you're doing a build that requires massive karma investment. Even if you're doing Mage or Shaman, you lose one spell slot in the mid-late game from that 0.5 essence loss, but you can recover that with cyber affinity anyway.
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Yeah, you should vote based on absolutely whatever you want obviously, but there's no need to be concerned about the archetypes. It's more about the characters that you want to see. I might try and make note of any noteworthy character contributions or interactions in future crew votes too, kinda like was done here. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jan 10, 2021 |
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Jan 10, 2021 17:33
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bring Gobbet, she seems like she's gonna be better at showing us the ropes.
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Jan 10, 2021 17:33
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I vote for Gobbet.
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Jan 10, 2021 17:44
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Kobal2 posted:Kindly Cheng is one of the greatest RPG NPCs in recent memory. thats just bau1, theres 5 other tones and like 12 other meanings its like meeting a dude named Do and saying that hes named after poo. Yeah you can say doodoo i dont care about the walled city thing but you should finish the party, get all the party members first thing possible bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jan 10, 2021 |
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Jan 10, 2021 17:50
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Gobbet
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Jan 10, 2021 18:14
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bob dobbs is dead posted:thats just bau1, theres 5 other tones and like 12 other meanings Now why would you choose to ruin a perfectly fine joke with boring facts ?
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Jan 10, 2021 18:50
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I say Gobbet. Speaking to the dead sounds neat and they might know some interesting things.
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Jan 10, 2021 19:22
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Yeah sure Gobbet
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Jan 10, 2021 19:26
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Gobbet
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Jan 10, 2021 19:42
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I always brought Is0bel and I’m sticking by that choice.
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