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AParadox posted:Today's coop treasure event was something else... Kill 2 hydro abyss mages + 1 cryo abyss mage in 30 seconds, all level 90. It took me 5 tries but the time I did it I had 11 seconds to spare. What team were you using? Getting a setup that can gib the shields fast enough is eluding me.
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I did it solo and in co-op a few times. The unit that carried huge for me was Jean, starting off with her ult takes off a huge amount of the hydro mage's shields. The other units I used solo were Keqing, Fischl, and Venti.
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Jan 11, 2021 15:07
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I kinda figured the strategy would generally be "have Venti". :/ I managed to lose by 1s on one attempt due to Keqing's slow ult animation, but that was my best attempt where they all stayed put and Sucrose hoovered them in a lightning tornado with everything amped by Benny's ult. If one mage teleports away it's a reset. Guessing this is 10 gems or whatever I'm just going to have to let go because I don't own a powerful enough vacuum cleaner.
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Jan 11, 2021 15:18
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Mailer posted:I kinda figured the strategy would generally be "have Venti". :/ I saw a cheese strat online that involves using the closeby waypoint to force the mages to teleport to you in a blob and then you drop guoba on them. The grassfire then takes down the shields fast
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Jan 11, 2021 15:21
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Mailer posted:What team were you using? Getting a setup that can gib the shields fast enough is eluding me. The strat that worked for me was to swirl the cryo mage to freeze the hydro mages on both sides then venti(sucrose should also work) ult to abosrb cryo and keep them frozen and break their shield. My team was keqing fishl bennet venti. In coop I use venti no one else have him otherwise keqing.
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Jan 11, 2021 15:22
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:A well-geared Noelle (especially c6) with her burst active does a lot of consistent damage, in a real big aoe that can easily hit many enemies at once. Can someone give me an example of battery characters? Or is that just peeps carrying artifacts?
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Jan 11, 2021 15:47
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a battery character is just someone who creates a lot of elemental particles to charge your bursts faster. being the same element makes them better at that, as well as weapons like Favonius or artifact effects like Exile/Scholar etc. in Noelle's case she usually runs with GeoMC because they have decent support effects and their skill generates a good amount of geo particles.
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Jan 11, 2021 15:50
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For Noelle it's specifically Geo MC or Ninguang. My favorite (whale) approach is C6 Noelle + R5 Favonious Greatsword - the low ATK from the greatsword doesn't matter much on C6 Noelle because most of her damage derives from DEF and she can stay in ult a lot. I watched a video of a solo Noelle clearing each side of the current 12-3 in under 1:30 (geo buffs obviously make this easier). I'll consider this one a long-term goal.
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Jan 11, 2021 15:52
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Ok, thanks. I didn't realize the element of the particle producer being the same gave more energy. So far I don't have another geo person yet. 
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Jan 11, 2021 15:56
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smallmouth posted:Ok, thanks. I didn't realize the element of the particle producer being the same gave more energy. So far I don't have another geo person yet.
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Jan 11, 2021 15:57
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Haha, yeah forgot about the traveler. I'll have to experiment with that. Thanks.
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Jan 11, 2021 15:59
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Debating if I wanna level my noelle C6 or ning C2 for eventual geo fun
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Jan 11, 2021 16:03
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If it were me, I'd do the Noelle C6 because I think she'd pair really well with Albedo and she excels so much against the geo shields in 12-3.
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Jan 11, 2021 16:06
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Stormgale posted:Debating if I wanna level my noelle C6 or ning C2 for eventual geo fun why not both
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Jan 11, 2021 16:09
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No Wave posted:If it were me, I'd do the Noelle C6 because I think she'd pair really well with Albedo and she excels so much against the geo shields in 12-3. Does she, albedo's energy regen is scuffed plus Noelle really wants someone else to do field time when she's not in sweeping time? Ning I can see as she really wants maximum field time (she loves albedo) but If I ran noelle it'd be 100% with geo traveller
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Jan 11, 2021 16:35
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Ytlaya posted:Ended up getting some pretty bad substat upgrades, but still plenty happy with it (4th stat was DEF%, got 2 buffs to raw ATK, 1 buff to DEF%, and 1 buff to CDMG%). I've been spending nearly all resin the last week or so on the VV dungeon (largely because it's probably the easiest of the artifact dungeons I've tried due to the physical buff - I want some Noblesse Oblige artifacts, but the highest rank dungeon for it is difficult enough that it's a pain). End result: I just do domains co-op with people when I can't easily clear the highest rank on my own, has been a surprisingly pleasant experience so far. Especially so because I make sure to bring a support that doesn't care about levels so much (usually Bennet), which means probably 90% of the time I'm running with some ridiculous Diluc/Klee/Venti teams that just make clearing everything a breeze. Seems like a much better alternative to using the same amount of resin clearing a lower level by myself, but ymmv.
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Jan 11, 2021 16:39
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Stormgale posted:Debating if I wanna level my noelle C6 or ning C2 for eventual geo fun Yeah, if you want to roll Noelle as a carry then bring Ning along for energy regen and burst support. Geo resonance is pretty good as well. If you only want to level one of them, I'd start with Ning unless you're hurting for healers.
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Jan 11, 2021 16:42
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Stormgale posted:Does she, albedo's energy regen is scuffed plus Noelle really wants someone else to do field time when she's not in sweeping time? Ning is great as more of a burst support too. You swap in, drop a gate, burst and drop another gate. That's a lot of damage and a lot of energy. Andrast fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jan 11, 2021 |
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Jan 11, 2021 16:56
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lurksion posted:
1 Fish, 1 Benny, 1 Sucrose, 1 Stringless for Fish & now sitting a 70 counter and 15k primos for the next pull in ??? months. Probably going to pick up battlepass for Blacksword for Keqing. lurksion fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jan 11, 2021 |
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Jan 11, 2021 17:06
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Your options are black sword for Keq or Solar Pearl for Ninguang. Both are equally good choices, pick the one for the person with the worse weapon atm.
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Jan 11, 2021 17:22
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What are you guys thinking the best way to play Ganyu is going to be? 4 piece ice set and keep the enemy frozen by using XQ or try to score melts using Xiangling gouba or klee mines? Im thinking going for melts means the 4 piece might not be that good and you might be better off using 2 piece cryo 2 piece something else.
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Jan 11, 2021 17:30
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They're going to have to add some way to reroll or guarentee certain stats on artifacts in the far future. Considering how resin-gated everything with all the new content people won't be able to afford running artifact domains.
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Jan 11, 2021 17:34
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I know we had a discussion a few weeks back on which supports were worth leveling past 60 A4, is XQ one of them? Mine's...C2? and I won't be rolling on the Ganyu banner, but I have a Sac Sword and Klee needs that Vaporize damage.
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Jan 11, 2021 17:43
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What do I throw onto a support Chungyon? What weapon?
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Jan 11, 2021 17:44
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moush posted:They're going to have to add some way to reroll or guarentee certain stats on artifacts in the far future. Considering how resin-gated everything with all the new content people won't be able to afford running artifact domains. zgrowler2 posted:I know we had a discussion a few weeks back on which supports were worth leveling past 60 A4, is XQ one of them? Mine's...C2? and I won't be rolling on the Ganyu banner, but I have a Sac Sword and Klee needs that Vaporize damage.
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Jan 11, 2021 17:47
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No Wave posted:The artifact system is unironically perfect. I get usable pieces in under a week, whales resin refresh for months. They'd be crazy to change it. I agree with this. For 99 % of the people, having an artifact with a bad substat or two and few imperfect rolls is not a dealbreaker - the character will still perform great. The 1 % is brain worms completionists who will either spend time (which is okay) or money (whales) for it.
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Jan 11, 2021 17:52
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ninjoatse.cx posted:What do I throw onto a support Chungyon? What weapon? If you have sac great sword then its good for him when you need to re-position. For maximum damage during his burst you might want to use Skyward Pride if you have it. Aside from that there isn't much choice just pick something you've already leveled.
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Jan 11, 2021 17:59
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:I agree with this. For 99 % of the people, having an artifact with a bad substat or two and few imperfect rolls is not a dealbreaker - the character will still perform great. Yeah artifacts are fine. You get viable gladiator/wanderer just by bossing, then when your team is fine on levels/weapons/ascensions you can try domains to optimize them. There has to be something to chase and perfect artifacts are a fine goal. Now weekly boss drops for talents can go right the gently caress away. Just let me pick jeez.
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Jan 11, 2021 18:00
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i don't see why they shouldn't improve it there's already a problem with some mainstats being incredibly rare, getting one of those pieces and then having barely any to no usable substats is a thing that can happen and just sucks even if you're not minmaxing. especially with how this stuff interacts with needing specific slots that can mess with your set bonus.
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Jan 11, 2021 18:01
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SynthesisAlpha posted:Yeah artifacts are fine. You get viable gladiator/wanderer just by bossing, then when your team is fine on levels/weapons/ascensions you can try domains to optimize them. There has to be something to chase and perfect artifacts are a fine goal. I actually agree, with the caveat that Glad pieces are a touch too rare/expensive for my tastes. It takes twice as much Resin for a chance at a 5 star Glad as it does to guarantee a 5 star of any domain artifact. Also yes please give us a way to craft boss talent drops into each other.
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No Wave posted:It's a nice to have but not as essential because Vaporize reactions don't scale with level. Got it, thanks for the info!
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Jan 11, 2021 18:07
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yeah boss talent drops are obnoxious. They sure worked on me though, I pulled THIRTEEN horns of monoceros caeli and it made me more inclined to pull Albedo. Now I want at least one of Ganyu/Hu Tao/Xiao so that I can use any shadow of the warrior I pull. Truthfully though I'm not taking many talents past 7 for a very very long time so they aren't causing real issues for me atm.
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Jan 11, 2021 18:07
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people i'm levelling past 70 (70 is for talents) Venti, Diluc, Keqing, klee, Fischl, Xiang Proably bennet
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Jan 11, 2021 18:09
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dogsicle posted:i don't see why they shouldn't improve it
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Jan 11, 2021 18:11
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If it would be possible for me to get crit headpieces during this century I would not mind the artifact system at all. Substats being fickle is fine, not getting the mainstat you want loving sucks
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Jan 11, 2021 18:12
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I'm nearly AR30. Is there something I should do/have before levelling the world to 3?
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Mailer posted:I kinda figured the strategy would generally be "have Venti". :/
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aparmenideanmonad posted:I agree with others that the current system is totally sufficient for getting you to AR45 and the 5* artifact grind, but I also have the aforementioned brainworms and am now at the point where, when considering regearing my current teams or even developing new characters, I think things like "THIS ON SET ATK SANDS WITH NO CRIT SUBSTATS IS TRASH". Would love for a way to reroll substats - I'd even take it restricted to level 0 artifacts to keep some of the rarity/RNGeezus blessedness of truly well-rolled artifacts in play. where it sticks out to me is ER on supports, which is a generally desired thing. trying to stack it means either farming a super rare mainstat that can be set restricted or getting it through the "unnecessary" substat grind. weapons eliminate the mainstat issue and lessen the burden of substats but you do then have the issue of most being gacha. anyway, an improvement to the system only helps everybody so i'd like to see something eventually, in addition to them needing to add a 20 resin option to get the sets that drop from bosses.
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they'll probably add a substat rerolling system but it'll use a limited currency, probably one that you can't easily convert resin into. like for instance, when you're max rep and do a weekly quest in that city you could get the currency as your reward instead. so you would primarily use it to try and re-roll a cup/hat that would otherwise be pretty ideal and difficult to farm more of (getting an on element cup or even the correct crit type you need on a hat feels like reward enough in itself given the probabilities.) since you would be pretty limited, the flowers and feathers would basically be a waste to re-roll, and you'd still want to farm domains for more chances at ideal versions of them. i dont know how this would handle leveled items though, because you could get a piece that rolled 5 times on def or whatever and then highroll it onto crit. that might be fun, or might be too easy i dunno. if the currency was *really* limited (like multiple weeks of income to reroll one substat, or maybe you even pick what it rolls into) the goal would be just to get an artifact that rolled consecutively on one bad substat, and then convert it.
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I don't understand why substat rerolling is such a popular suggestion... It's the last thing they'd want to do, it's not hugely impactful for f2p but it makes whales' life 10x easier. What I'd like is a domain that only dropped random helmets and another that only dropped random goblets. This would also be op but it would make low spenders' life so much easier.
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