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drunken officeparty posted:As someone who must explore every pathway, the fact that I have to leave behind a bunch of lockstone things and places with statue bodies in the way because the game hasn’t provided me the items for them is crushing my soul The statue bodies are there specifically to lock off things that you'll come back to later. there are exactly enough Flagrant Branches to unfreeze every statue and they're usually blocking secrets or alternate paths. (the one place that's not quite as interesting wrt statues is Shaded Woods, there's some that just give you a treasure chest or a key, but there's still exactly enough for you to unfreeze every statue) Lockstones generally unlock smaller secrets but are much more plentiful. sometimes they do relatively minor stuff like giving you a pool of water (to wash off poison or to buff fire resistance) while sometimes they hide a small secret area. There are exactly two areas (grave of saints, doors of pharros) where they're mostly there to set up traps for a weird PvP covenant
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I used one branch in a sewer for an estus upgrade shard, and then later on used one on a guy to get to the 3 lanky robot boss fight and now I’m afraid to use any more because what would I have done if I had wasted the second one. Soft lock the game because I wouldn’t have been able to get to the boss??
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Jan 11, 2021 02:06
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drunken officeparty posted:I used one branch in a sewer for an estus upgrade shard, and then later on used one on a guy to get to the 3 lanky robot boss fight and now I’m afraid to use any more because what would I have done if I had wasted the second one. Soft lock the game because I can’t get to the boss?? No. You can’t get softlocked with fragrant branches. There’s another way through Bastille that doesn’t require fighting Sentinels
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Jan 11, 2021 02:06
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drunken officeparty posted:I used one branch in a sewer for an estus upgrade shard, and then later on used one on a guy to get to the 3 lanky robot boss fight and now I’m afraid to use any more because what would I have done if I had wasted the second one. Soft lock the game because I wouldn’t have been able to get to the boss?? The only place where you might not "optimally" use the branches is in the Shaded Woods, but that just means you'd have to scrounge elsewhere for a branch. There's one statue there that drops a key, one that guards a chest that has a second branch in it and therefore is basically a freebie, and one that blocks a miniboss fight. Just look those up if you're worried about wasting them there. Everywhere else you find a petrified dude, he's blocking something useful like a bonfire, an estus shard, or an alternate path. As far as the lockstones goes, outside of the Doors of Pharros and Grave of Saints, you can plug the lockstone in wherever and be fine. There's a couple nice items hidden in the Doors of Pharros but they're wholly optional and you can look them up if you want. I don't think it's worth using on the lockstones that just spit water into a pool, but again those are obvious if you want to avoid using them.
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Jan 11, 2021 02:15
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Nuns with Guns posted:The only place where you might not "optimally" use the branches is in the Shaded Woods, but that just means you'd have to scrounge elsewhere for a branch. There's one statue there that drops a key, one that guards a chest that has a second branch in it and therefore is basically a freebie, and one that blocks a miniboss fight. Just look those up if you're worried about wasting them there. Everywhere else you find a petrified dude, he's blocking something useful like a bonfire, an estus shard, or an alternate path. Aren't there a bunch of lockstones that just make you wet (which is very slightly useful), one of which in Earthen Peak gets you wet with poison instead? (Maybe you only get poisoned if you use it before you drain the poison)
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Jan 11, 2021 02:32
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feelix posted:Aren't there a bunch of lockstones that just make you wet (which is very slightly useful), one of which in Earthen Peak gets you wet with poison instead? (Maybe you only get poisoned if you use it before you drain the poison) Until you burn the windmill it is poison, after it heals and cures
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Jan 11, 2021 02:34
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feelix posted:Aren't there a bunch of lockstones that just make you wet (which is very slightly useful), one of which in Earthen Peak gets you wet with poison instead? (Maybe you only get poisoned if you use it before you drain the poison) Yes? I said so right there and I said I don't recommend using them. They heal you and provide heat protection for a short period of time, which is only really useful when you want to suicide run for poo poo in the lava. It's obvious which ones those are since they have a raised tub right under the pharros face.
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Jan 11, 2021 02:52
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Sorry, I have the attention span of a goldfish and only read like half of your post
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Jan 11, 2021 03:27
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drunken officeparty posted:I used one branch in a sewer for an estus upgrade shard, and then later on used one on a guy to get to the 3 lanky robot boss fight and now I’m afraid to use any more because what would I have done if I had wasted the second one. Soft lock the game because I wouldn’t have been able to get to the boss?? You in fact found the alternate path into the Bastille. If you hadn't had the branch, you would have gone around the "normal" way (imo more people probably find the lost bastille that way than the more "standard" route there, since the shortcut is right there while the 'proper' way has you leaving Majula by one of the other exits) There is no way to lock yourself out of unfreezing all the statues. There are exactly enough to unlock every statue by the end of the game.
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Jan 11, 2021 10:45
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I still have all of the boss souls because even though I probably won’t use them to make the weapons, what if
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Jan 12, 2021 01:48
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drunken officeparty posted:I still have all of the boss souls because even though I probably won’t use them to make the weapons, what if lmao yup, same I even beat the last boss(es) twice on my first playthrough because I needed to re-record footage and I still haven't done anything with those souls. e: I made the Warped Sword and I think that's it for boss weapons
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Jan 12, 2021 01:51
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I made the Smelter Demon Sword on the recommendation of a friend and I can confirm that it's really cool. I probably would have been better off with a regular sword but this one explodes! 
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Jan 12, 2021 01:56
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is it possible to get from the Tower Apart bonfire (Pursuer drop off) in Lost Bastille to Straid without killing Ruin Sentinels? I'm trying to get my twink to the Agape Ring and would like to avoid No Man's wharf if possible.
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Jan 12, 2021 03:32
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Reality Protester posted:is it possible to get from the Tower Apart bonfire (Pursuer drop off) in Lost Bastille to Straid without killing Ruin Sentinels? I'm trying to get my twink to the Agape Ring and would like to avoid No Man's wharf if possible. AFAIK no in either version; the shortcut past the Sentinels is in the locked off area that you can only get to through the Wharf entrance. The Ruin Sentinels also award too many souls in regards to the Agape Ring range, anyway: you gotta go through the Wharf no matter what. Luckily Dragonrider + Flexile Sentry combined is still enough not souls to exceed the 30k breakpoint on their own (26,000 total). If you've already killed Last Giant, Pursuer, and/or more than 13,999 souls-worth of common enemies you're boned though and gotta restart. Kite Pride Worldwide fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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Jan 12, 2021 04:00
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Reality Protester posted:is it possible to get from the Tower Apart bonfire (Pursuer drop off) in Lost Bastille to Straid without killing Ruin Sentinels? I'm trying to get my twink to the Agape Ring and would like to avoid No Man's wharf if possible. You can do Bastille without Ruin Sentinels or without NMW, but I don’t think you can do both at the same time.
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Jan 12, 2021 04:05
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Yeah, I dont think I can. I tried looking for a path on another character and there's no path to the dogs area without opening the gates by McDuff, accessible from the other side only. not boned exactly, but my twinking will not be as effective.
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Jan 12, 2021 04:16
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I feel like I'm in a significant minority for happily munching down boss souls. I do check to make sure they don't make anything interesting first, but 99% of the time it's nothing I want. And in 2 it's especially nbd since you can always pop an ascetic and grab another one.
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Jan 12, 2021 17:00
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During the periods of time where I was playing dark souls a lot, I'd eat lots of boss souls cause I was rerolling so often to do stupid stuff. But on my first character? heaven forbid I lose the opportunity to make a pyromancy I'm never going to use on my big STR guy.
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Jan 12, 2021 17:37
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Powerstancing the bone fist loving owns. Just running around hadoukening these wizards and priests to get more twinkling titanite to make a stronger punch
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Jan 12, 2021 17:47
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yeah I think it's the same hoarding instinct that made me avoid using elixers and megalixers against safer sephiroth, because what if there's an even BIGGER and BADDER final form after this and I need them then?? e: I love playing unarmed characters, I think my next DS2 character will be a punchman
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Jan 12, 2021 17:49
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How Rude posted:Powerstancing the bone fist loving owns. Just running around hadoukening these wizards and priests to get more twinkling titanite to make a stronger punch Also I never even use normal Souls items
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Jan 12, 2021 17:52
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Souls items are even worse than regular RPG items because you've got a high chance of using a VERY RARE AND VALUABLE item in a boss fight, still losing and having lost the item for good. At least in a regular JRPG the item is only lost in a winning run, so you can use a megalixir or soma against a superboss without 'wasting' it
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Jan 12, 2021 17:59
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:yeah I think it's the same hoarding instinct that made me avoid using elixers and megalixers against safer sephiroth, because what if there's an even BIGGER and BADDER final form after this and I need them then?? I have so many items that I either don’t know what they do, don’t need what they do, or won’t use because what if I need a slightly boosted sprint regen later??? I only have 3 of them !!
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Jan 12, 2021 18:01
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The weird thing about Lost Bastille is that the "correct" entrance appears to be going through No Man's Wharf because then enemies are actually facing you, but I think most people get there by going through the Forest of Fallen Giants.
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Jan 12, 2021 18:28
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I went into DS2 mostly blind just last year and i find you just have to trust the developers with these things. If you read descriptions for items and keep rough stock of their soul price or how and where you find them its way less stressful. Pharros lockstones are the big one, you learn early on in ds2 that they are rare and potentially have big rewards but you just have to accept it as part of the game, don't stress over it and keep making progress where you can. Or just look at a wiki. Nothing wrong there that's how i beat DS1.
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multijoe posted:Souls items are even worse than regular RPG items because you've got a high chance of using a VERY RARE AND VALUABLE item in a boss fight, still losing and having lost the item for good. At least in a regular JRPG the item is only lost in a winning run, so you can use a megalixir or soma against a superboss without 'wasting' it I think he meant the out and out soul items like Soul of a Fallen Warrior or whatever. (Which I find a bit  but hey you do you, Simon.)But yeah, DS2 especially went overboard with the highly limited/highly esoteric consumables. You could probably intuit a few specific places where having particular protections/resistances/whatever could be useful, but there really was never a time where I went "aha, good thing I have a stack of 8 <thing that boosts your bleed resistance>, now I can even the odds!" and even when I did there's almost always a ring that does the exact same thing. It's especially bad because, y'know, it's Dark Souls. You can't pause the game to go digging around in your bag of holding for just the right answer to the giant flaming hell dog that's barreling down on you or w/e. (And this general need for foreknowledge also limits their effectiveness in a PVP context - the one place where having the full spectrum of responses to various effects would make the most sense.) And then once you get past all of that bullshit, oops you died to the boss anyway so bye bye precious Bright Bug you only get like, 12 of in the entire game. I genuinely don't know what you'd actually use the DLC balms for. 
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Jan 12, 2021 18:57
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The balms are wild because apart from the strength one there’s literally only five of each in the entire game. What the gently caress lol. At least the brightbugs are so insanely OP that it makes sense to be limited. (There’s 26 of them btw. 18 from Melentia!)
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Jan 12, 2021 19:46
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John Murdoch posted:I think he meant the out and out soul items like Soul of a Fallen Warrior or whatever. (Which I find a bit Yeah I meant those, I was also a bit exaggerating: I use them to top off if I'm just missing a few Souls for a levelup, if I need to repair something but just died, and sometimes early on if I want to use a weapon that needs a lot of stats now. Otherwise, I pop them all if I do a NG+ run for final level ups and armor upgrades/material buys, that's when I realize I have stacks of 20 +3000 Souls items or whatever 
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goblin week posted:The balms are wild because apart from the strength one there’s literally only five of each in the entire game. What the gently caress lol. At least the brightbugs are so insanely OP that it makes sense to be limited. (There’s 26 of them btw. 18 from Melentia!) I keep wondering if there's some wild edge case trick where being able to bump up a stat by 5 would do something cool and I've just got nothing. By the time I hit the DLC +5 strength would've boosted my damage by like...a low single digit, I think? Because of all the filtering down to attack modifiers and capping and scaling wonkiness. I guess they might be a boon if you're doing a SL1 run? And there aren't 26 Bright Bugs, there's only like 12 because you don't ever think to buy any until 2/3rds of the way through the game so Melentia just eats most of them and then you forget they exist amongst all the other inventory clutter anyway.  The bigger point is that they're clearly meant to be their attempt at an easy mode mechanic and it was implemented about as wonky as you'd expect it to be.
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How Rude posted:Powerstancing the bone fist loving owns. Just running around hadoukening these wizards and priests to get more twinkling titanite to make a stronger punch I tried to get into bone fists but they're so slow after dual caestuses. (Caestii?) ...I forgot where I was going with this punching owns.
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Double Plus Undead posted:(Caestii?) The plural of caestus is caestus In general in Latin, a plural should only end in -ii if the singular ends in -ius, not just -us. skasion fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:e: I love playing unarmed characters, I think my next DS2 character will be a punchman When I did a dual Caestus run, I named my character Max Punchman. That was one of my favourite runs of the game I've ever done.
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Large bottomless pit in a dead end path, filled with green poison mist, no ladder down, 6 different messages all saying death ahead, multiple blood pools at the rim jumps down the hole, dies 
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I wonder what happened to the OP? I think I remember him from the goon invasion of Astro Empires.
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drunken officeparty posted:Large bottomless pit in a dead end path, filled with green poison mist, no ladder down, 6 different messages all saying death ahead, multiple blood pools at the rim Stock up on lifegems from melentia to counteract the poison gas (1 lifegem will heal fast enough to mostly negate the damage and 2 will outheal it) and use a torch if you can't find your way through the thick poison fog. That area is tiny but absolutely filled with good loot so it's worth combing through it.
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tweet my meat posted:Stock up on lifegems from melentia to counteract the poison gas (1 lifegem will heal fast enough to mostly negate the damage and 2 will outheal it) and use a torch if you can't find your way through the thick poison fog. That area is tiny but absolutely filled with good loot so it's worth combing through it. I made it through that place and the real level after it and killed medusa. It wasn’t hard but holy gently caress was it annoying. The combination of poison everything, the loving ninja mobs all the time, and a castle built like an mc escher painting. I spent more time running around in circles than I did fighting. Not to mention I ignored a fog gate thinking it was the boss fight in order to get all the loot first only to find out behind it was a single platform with a bonfire. What the hell are fog gates why is that there
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You should go back to where you can walk up to the windmill uh, blades or whatever, and use a torch on it It won't help you for the boss fight anymore but it'll be a fun surprise, and something to remember for NG+ and on
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John Murdoch posted:Bright Bugs I thought you could only use them when you were near death yourself due to the item description 
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Jan 13, 2021 02:38
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Gaping Ring: achieved. Soul Memory, 99251. I'm sure I could do better but Forest of Fallen Giants is still popping up orange so this should be fine.
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I bet I've never used 3/4 of all consumables in all souls games. I just forget about them.
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