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Disenchantment was 100% unfunny dogshit for season 0.5, and is still awful, but it's on a consistent (if slow) upward trend which is more than can be said for Simpsons atm. It has all the buildong blocks of something that could be good, I was genuinely surprised how badly they could get it wrong
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I can't even bring myself to push play on the first episode. Everything about it looks cringe, and I could not care less about the premise. You're not missing much. The visuals are interesting and the voice cast puts in good work, but that's about all it's got going for it.
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The episode about the giantess made me irrationally angry. Why did Elfo invent a girlfriend? He already thought he had a girlfriend!
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I enjoyed my first watch, but I haven't felt any desire to rewatch. there's a lot of potentially good stuff, and the arc is maybe a good development. we'll see. I might give it another crack now that I've been through Bob's Burgs a couple times.
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simplefish posted:It has all the buildong blocks of something that could be good, I was genuinely surprised how badly they could get it wrong yes; yes Das Boo posted:The episode about the giantess made me irrationally angry. Why did Elfo invent a girlfriend? He already thought he had a girlfriend! it's like they're going out of the gate with Bart is a rapper / oh poo poo robots are now immortal except Bender, who suddenly thought he was immortal
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:How did she know it was specifically the beaver from The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe? I haven't seen this obvious trash episode but I'm gonna guess it's some nightmarish puke where she told him that was her fantasy, but he was only interested in banging her dressed as green haired elf, and was trying to force her to wear that poo poo during sex without his reciprocating any of the cosplay fetish stuff that she wanted because he thinks book books are stupid and childish And in the end he finally mans up and wears the thing that he thinks is stupid and they gently caress uuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh can you believe someone got paid to write this absolute horrendous garbage @PostNouveau confirm/deny?
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AHH F/UGH posted:I haven't seen this obvious trash episode but I'm gonna guess it's some nightmarish puke where she told him that was her fantasy, but he was only interested in banging her dressed as green haired elf, and was trying to force her to wear that poo poo during sex without his reciprocating any of the cosplay fetish stuff that she wanted because he thinks book books are stupid and childish Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, no, they were just into cosplay. She was wearing that stuff earlier in the episode to try to seduce him into knocking her up.
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I hate myself and have been watching the entire series, this has been brought up multiple times before, but I really hate how jokes are explained all the loving time now   in ye olden simpsons they would have just skipped that second line also that one with Sacha Baron Cohen guest starring was insanely unfunny
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finalellipsis posted:also that one with Sacha Baron Cohen guest starring was insanely unfunny So, business as usual?
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PostNouveau posted:Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, no, they were just into cosplay. She was wearing that stuff earlier in the episode to try to seduce him into knocking her up. So him putting on the beaver suit is basically just saying "come here and gently caress me" with no pretext or setup in the episode's story at all? It's only right then that it's revealed what her weird kink is for... some reason? God the writers of this show are  as gently caress
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AHH F/UGH posted:So him putting on the beaver suit is basically just saying "come here and gently caress me" with no pretext or setup in the episode's story at all? It's only right then that it's revealed what her weird kink is for... some reason? Yeah, I mean I guess I could have missed it earlier in the episode I ain't paying like super close attention
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finalellipsis posted:I hate myself and have been watching the entire series, this has been brought up multiple times before, but I really hate how jokes are explained all the loving time now I think I've brought it up in this thread before but even when they can't outright explain the joke they have a character groan and roll their eyes just to let you know that it's a joke.
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That one sounds like they were trying to recapture "... Whether you're Christian, Jewish, or ... miscellaneous!" "Hindu! There are 750 million of us!"
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I like that they didn't put the thumb over the last finger so it looks like he's making tiger claws instead of air quotes
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Data Graham posted:That one sounds like they were trying to recapture Always feel like if the Simpsons had ended when it was still good, Apu would be remembered as, while a stereotype, still a step in the right direction. If.
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finalellipsis posted:I hate myself and have been watching the entire series, this has been brought up multiple times before, but I really hate how jokes are explained all the loving time now This feels like a problem in a lot of modern comedy. You make a joke, and then instead of being contented that you made a joke, you have to mine that fucker. So maybe you add in an extraneous explanatory line, maybe you go and illustrate the joke. Jon Oliver used to do this all the time. He still might, but once somebody pointed it out, it stood out like a sore thumb, and I can't watch him anymore without screaming "you already told the joke! You can stop it!" It's also surprising. These episodes run like 18-19 minutes now, when you subtract the credits. So wasted lines like these serve no purpose. The other side of it is that a lot of modern comedy settles for being clever instead of funny. Ken Levine recently wrote about these things, calling them "like a joke," things that sound and look like jokes and aren't actually jokes. This is a guy who wrote for M*A*S*H, Cheers, Frasier, Wings, Mary Tyler Moore's show from the mid-80s, AfterM*A*S*H (which he turned down an opportunity to write for the Cosby Show for, a decision he never regretted and has only ever felt better about as time went on), and... two episodes of the Simpsons - Dancing Homer, and Saturdays of Thunder. So yeah, I think he knows his stuff. Cemetry Gator fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Cemetry Gator posted:This feels like a problem in a lot of modern comedy. You make a joke, and then instead of being contented that you made a joke, you have to mine that fucker. So maybe you add in an extraneous explanatory line, maybe you go and illustrate the joke. can I get a link?
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there seems to be a weird move towards improv for a lot of things. that's fine if the people involved are really good at improv, but most people aren't. a lot of these scripts read like somebody took "first thought, best thought" entirely to heart, like they're writing up to the word count for something rather than trying to edit it down to the best stuff
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Empty Sandwich posted:there seems to be a weird move towards improv for a lot of things. that's fine if the people involved are really good at improv, but most people aren't. Do you think it's is that because people network and start careers at places like UCB instead of writing for Army Man Magazine or Harvard Lampoon? or for [checks notes] the Van Brunt & Co advertising agency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDESNnO1w4
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Greg12 posted:can I get a link? http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2020/11/like-jokes.html?m=1 There's not too much, it's pretty high level. But the blog is worth reading since he talks a lot about writing for TV shows. I feel like he also avoids "young people suck" and instead talks about TV shows honestly. Here's him talking about the Simpsons - http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2016/07/how-we-got-our-first-simpsons-assignment.html?m=1 He points out something - how important Simon was to the overall tone of the show.
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Empty Sandwich posted:there seems to be a weird move towards improv for a lot of things. that's fine if the people involved are really good at improv, but most people aren't. some of them strike me as products of being able to write on the spot thanks to multi camera & cheap digital. you can just get a bunch of takes of people saying random stuff and decide what's funny later.
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Greg12 posted:Do you think it's is that because people network and start careers at places like UCB instead of writing for Army Man Magazine or Harvard Lampoon? I think there's a lot to that, now that you mention it. they've become the pipelines for a lot of comedians. bus hustler posted:some of them strike me as products of being able to write on the spot thanks to multi camera & cheap digital. you can just get a bunch of takes of people saying random stuff and decide what's funny later. that makes sense, too. I was just looking up Christopher Guest movies while I was thinking about this, and they used to chew up a hell of a lot of film just getting towards what they finally used. (plus they basically have an ensemble, in addition to being loving good at what they do.)
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GUYS help me out here and confirm i'm not going crazy so as some of you know, i've purchased a subscription to disney+ mainly to watch the simpsons, which i haven't for like nearly a decade. so i come across a classic episode, when bart and lisa go to camp krusty, and i came across this scene: *kids run out of school when bell rings* *history teacher comes out* history teacher: wait! you all don't know how WWII ends *kids stop and wait* HT: we won! *kids cheer and chant U.S.A.* now, as stated, while i haven't seen the show in a long time, i HAVE seen this episode a gajillion times growing up. and i'm 99.999% positive the guy didn't reference WWII, but the Civil War. because i feel the only way the joke works is if it uses the Civil War. am i insane or what? Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jan 14, 2021 |
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I'm pretty sure it was always WWII in tv re-runs. But they could have edited it to move the joke to a new corner for syndication.
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Mr Interweb posted:now, as stated, while i haven't seen the show in a long time, i HAVE seen this episode a gajillion times growing up. and i'm 99.999% positive the guy didn't reference WWII, but the Civil War. because i feel the only way the joke works is if it uses the Civil War.
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Mr Interweb posted:GUYS Going off memories of the original edition dvd, it’s always been WWII
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I only remember WWII. I think Civil War would restrict the states Springfield could be in too much
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I remember it being wwii in first run. I could swear to it. Fwiw I think “civil war” is too oblique a joke. “WWII” is absurd just like the situation it’s in; it’s all about the relief of stress, not caring about details or responsibilities anymore. And then the teacher is like “wait! You’re not done yet!” Pregnant pause while they await the other shoe dropping, complicated facts to memorize, more crap to deal with, then — “we won” lol never mind It’s not supposed to be some kind of commentary or political statement
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that's so bizarre. i swear that's how i remember it.  i mean, the reason the civil war works is because it's funny that the u.s. "won" a war against ourselves. referencing WWII wouldn't work as a joke cause that's kind of exactly what happened Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jan 14, 2021 |
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Besides we know their textbooks were written during the Korean War (and have that base 6 crap in them), but it strains credulity to think they wouldn't even have made it as far as the Civil War by end of year And we know how important continuity is in this show
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Mr Interweb posted:that's so bizarre. i swear that's how i remember it. But what makes it funny is that it's obvious we won given that Germany isn't all of Europe and Japan isn't a significant chunk of eastern Asia. The joke isn't the outcome, the joke was that the outcome could ever be in question and the events that led to the Cold War are simply summed up in "we won" is a great joke.
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The end of WWII is where the U.S. is a Viking.
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Mr Interweb posted:GUYS I think you're smashing this one up with a similar joke in s07e25 "But what happened in Ford's theater? Was President Lincoln OK? Go home, Ralph."
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PostNouveau posted:I only remember WWII. I think Civil War would restrict the states Springfield could be in too much Springfield is in a Union state apparently
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That WWII joke pretty much sums up the way American education teaches history.
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Been watching them all on Disney+ with my wife on our lunchbreaks / to fill 20 minutes, and the first episode with absolutely no redeeming qualities or jokes that land to us, is Season 12, Episode 20. I think the reason it's so egregious is because people (especially Homer) act really out of character in it, and not even in the service of jokes. Homer breaks his leg playing basketball, and is all "What will I do, just sit around watching TV?" Which at first seems like it's being played as a joke, but is a recurring sentiment of his character, until he starts a childcare center. It's central to the plot. It just feels weird. Bart and Lisa are kinda weird in this episode too. It was the first one in the run where we've both felt like we should find something else to watch instead.
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