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TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Should we be reporting ourselves to "Protect & Survive" then?
the thought of this thread not even registering on a GCHQ watchlist is somehow even more depressing than all the daily poo poo going on outside

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

crispix posted:

yeah sorry i meant IT projects that are managed using it. The health trust I work for uses it for things that really ought to be trivial to plan and implement but there are a lot of people around who aren't terribly skilled or knowledgable but who really love having meetings

TBF it's not a bad system, but like most things that have certifications, the problem is that the training teaches you to pass the certification and learn a few appropriate buzzwords. I did a five-day training course* and am now on-paper qualified to take over the rollout of the NHS vaccination programme.

* With, like I say, an open-book multiple-choice exam at the end. It was a 3 hour exam and it took me 15 minutes - now if I have any actual skill in life it's trivia recall so I tend to be pretty good at exams, but I legitimately thought they'd not given me the whole exam or something. and after checking that I spent another 15 minutes re-reading all the questions to make sure, before getting up the chutzpah to just hand in my paper and head for the pub.

One of the people in my class was a colleague who actually ran out of time and had to retake the exam because he only got 45%. Having said that, he is now a genuinely good project manager and I'm still a fuckup who at least once a day walks into a room then has to walk out because they have no idea what they went in there for - this is actually possibly because he has the one thing most PMs don't have which is enough humility not to think the "manager" part of the title means he's in charge, rather than being a glorified admin person and babysitter/wrangler for nerds.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
yeah it's all a load of shite really isn't it

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I used to rename top secret documents (eg certain things my ex boyfriend used to send me) as .dll or whatever files to keep them hidden from all but the most forensic of computer detectives. Then I forgot what name the relevant dll files were so I have 'interesting photos' hidden somewhere on my computer and I knoweth not where.

You can find files by image header relatively simply, although it may take a while.

Assuming a) they're jpegs, b) you're on Windows, and c) you only have one hard drive and you're not sure where it might be on there, open an elevated command prompt (hit the Windows Key and type "cmd" without the quotes, right-click "Command Prompt" and hit "Run as Administrator" - you'll need to be elevated as if they're .dlls in a system folder Windows won't let you play with them).

In the window that opens, type the following commands:

code:
cd \
findstr /s /m JFIF *.dll
(findstr will search all files with extension .dll in all of the subdirectories (/s) for the string JFIF, which should exist in most jpeg headers - there are a couple of other strings but there's weirdness with character encoding that might confuse it - and output the names of filed it finds them in (/m). Obviously this is going to take a while, and there are much more elegant ways of doing it, but this is the easiest way of doing it without delving into Powershell and other horrors)

nurmie
Dec 8, 2019
re whether forums are social media,

my Hot Take is basically "technically yes, but not really". While they do fit the dictionary definition of "social media" (user-generated content, online community building, etc.) and they partially cover similar grounds, the way one interacts with an internet forum makes it quite different in spirit from stuff like Facebook, Instagram, etc. Imo, forums have more in common with chat rooms (or Discord servers) than with social media. Reddit as it is now is somewhere halfway between an internet forum and a form of social media, kind of like how Tumblr is a halfway point between a form of social media and a blog platform.

The biggest difference for me is that forums are primarily discussion-focused, with content being divided into topics/thread and posters' contributions going primarily into these threads, as opposed to personal feeds/channels/pages/what have you. Whereas social media tends to primarily focus exactly on these personal feeds/channels/etc; this is where most of the content goes and gets shared from, amalgamated into personalized, infinite content feeds unique for each user. It might seem like not that much of a difference, but it's enough to make interacting with a forum not feel like interacting with a social media in my head :v:

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

crispix posted:

UKMT ∞ it's all a load of shite really isn't it

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

TACD posted:

’Social media’ is a trap term here. Technically of course the forums are social media, but they’re not algorithmically enhanced and we don’t have official corporate accounts, so IMO it’s not toxic or harmful in the same way as Twitter or Facebook.

It is a hard-left radicalisation platform for antifa super soldiers though👹

I agree with this. It's media that's social but it's not 'social media' in the way most people would understand it in 2021. I have, since paying more attention to my phone habits, realised that I do refresh my bookmarks to look for new posts in my favourite threads with worrying frequency. Or used to anyway, I've deleted the Awful app to try and prevent that.

Jaeluni - absolutely read WMD. It's available for free online too if you're that way inclined. Also a really short and easy read, which I always appreciate.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

You can find files by image header relatively simply, although it may take a while.

Assuming a) they're jpegs, b) you're on Windows, and c) you only have one hard drive and you're not sure where it might be on there, open an elevated command prompt (hit the Windows Key and type "cmd" without the quotes, right-click "Command Prompt" and hit "Run as Administrator" - you'll need to be elevated as if they're .dlls in a system folder Windows won't let you play with them).

In the window that opens, type the following commands:

code:
cd \
findstr /s /m JFIF *.dll
(findstr will search all files with extension .dll in all of the subdirectories (/s) for the string JFIF, which should exist in most jpeg headers - there are a couple of other strings but there's weirdness with character encoding that might confuse it - and output the names of filed it finds them in (/m). Obviously this is going to take a while, and there are much more elegant ways of doing it, but this is the easiest way of doing it without delving into Powershell and other horrors)

I'll try that over the weekend, thanks.
(btw, I learned computers before people had pretty pictures to click on so I know about command lines :corsair: :boom: and that's how I do my backups with :drac: files ).

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jakabite posted:

I agree with this. It's media that's social but it's not 'social media' in the way most people would understand it in 2021. I have, since paying more attention to my phone habits, realised that I do refresh my bookmarks to look for new posts in my favourite threads with worrying frequency. Or used to anyway, I've deleted the Awful app to try and prevent that.

Jaeluni - absolutely read WMD. It's available for free online too if you're that way inclined. Also a really short and easy read, which I always appreciate.

Thanks for the heads up, just downloaded it.

I had a ticket to see a talk by the author of Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men by Caroline Criado-Perez for my 60th birthday weekend earlier this year but it got rescheduled for September then cancelled :cry: :qq: so that's another book (was supposed to get a copy with the talk) to get. And I still haven't had any birthday celebration :( My sister is 60 in October so maybe we might get chance to do a joint thing. Mind you she loves parties and is a social butterfly who flits from group to group making small talk whereas me and one of my brothers can be found sculking in the garden shed to get away from the noise and pressure of social interactions.)

Re social media:
Most weekends I try and take offline - once the computer is on, the day is lost. But I have got into a bad habit of checking up on SA via an old ipad my sister gave me so I can communicate with mother via facetime. I don't sign in though.


nurmie posted:

re whether forums are social media,

my Hot Take is basically "technically yes, but not really". While they do fit the dictionary definition of "social media" (user-generated content, online community building, etc.) and they partially cover similar grounds, the way one interacts with an internet forum makes it quite different in spirit from stuff like Facebook, Instagram, etc. Imo, forums have more in common with chat rooms (or Discord servers) than with social media. Reddit as it is now is somewhere halfway between an internet forum and a form of social media, kind of like how Tumblr is a halfway point between a form of social media and a blog platform.

The biggest difference for me is that forums are primarily discussion-focused, with content being divided into topics/thread and posters' contributions going primarily into these threads, as opposed to personal feeds/channels/pages/what have you. Whereas social media tends to primarily focus exactly on these personal feeds/channels/etc; this is where most of the content goes and gets shared from, amalgamated into personalized, infinite content feeds unique for each user. It might seem like not that much of a difference, but it's enough to make interacting with a forum not feel like interacting with a social media in my head :v:


I much prefer the forum layout with topics and posts that stand still. So annoying on FB where if someone 'likes' an old post, it jumps up near the top and the way FB decides to show the newsfeed 'top posts' first where god knows how it decides on 'top posts' and no matter how often I change it to 'most recent' and bookmark the hr link it changes it back after a day or so.
I remember using freecycle years ago when it was a yahoo group and that was really good, then it pretty well moved onto facebook and it's impossible now.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jan 16, 2021

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

OwlFancier posted:

Also stupid! I am the language arbiter and I proclaim English to be stupid.

The Queen reigns
The rain rains
I hold the reins

Meanings in English can be surprisingly dependent on context.

nurmie
Dec 8, 2019

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I much prefer the forum layout with topics and posts that stand still. So annoying on FB where if someone 'likes' an old post, it jumps up near the top and the way FB decides to show the newsfeed 'top posts' first where god knows how it decides on 'top posts' and no matter how often I change it to 'most recent' and bookmark the hr link it changes it back after a day or so.
I remember using freecycle years ago when it was a yahoo group and that was really good, then it pretty well moved onto facebook and it's impossible now.

yeah forums as a format just feel that much more, uh, grounded in time? If that makes sense? It's all chronological and just sits there. FB and other social media on the other hand are all over the place. Even stuff like Twitter that can actually be set to a strictly-chronological timeline and stick to it still feels that much more fleeting

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Yeah, this style of forums remains the most readable and user-friendly, to my mind. You can either read a whole thread or skip to the last few pages and it's all in chronological order, with newer posts referencing older posts. The alternatives are Facebook/ Twitter algorithms that hopelessly jumble posts up (sometimes I'll start reading something only to have the screen update and the post be whisked away forever) or the godawful Reddit upvoting system, which is painful to read through and hugely vulnerable to organised brigading and wrong groupthink, where unpopular (but factually correct) posts get downvoted into oblivion.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

nurmie posted:

Even stuff like Twitter that can actually be set to a strictly-chronological timeline and stick to it still feels that much more fleeting

It doesn't stick to it.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Article in the Times, echoing this thread's opinion that Labour under Starmer is hopelessly passive and that that's not enough to win elections. Matthew Parris is a) a Tory and b) has strong centrist sympathies, which politically means that he loathes the Corbynite Left and is naturally rather sympathetic towards Starmer. So it's interesting to see him state so clearly that Labour's performance under Starmer just isn't good enough and that winning politicians actively step up and lead the political conversation.

Lacklustre Starmer needs to be surprising posted:


Here are two things you may perhaps know but most British voters won’t. First: on Wednesday this week, in an almost interminable speech, someone called Anneliese Dodds announced plans for balancing spending with borrowing. Second: the someone in question is actually Labour’s shadow chancellor.

In discussing that speech I suffer from a disqualification that’s the flipside of my best qualification. I’m no expert either on economics or the internal politics of the Labour Party. So I see things through the same window as the millions of British voters that Sir Keir Starmer needs to reassure if Labour are to win again. No more than most of us can, I scrutinise 45 minutes of dense text packed with economists’ jargon and reach a considered judgment. But as a natural conservative, well capable of turning away from the Tories if there appears to be somewhere safe to turn, I want to know three simple things:

Have Labour really turned their backs on mad, tribal left-wingery?

Do they with every ounce of their being understand that a thriving enterprise culture is the rock on which things we all want must be founded?

Do we see in their would-be chancellor the mind, the grip and the personality that would anchor a governing party, a cabinet and a prime minister?

Look at previous Labour chancellors and shadow chancellors: Roy Jenkins, Denis Healey, Jim Callaghan, John Smith, Gordon Brown, Ed Balls, even (and you may disagree) John McDonnell. These were people who seemed to know who they were and what they stood for. To a Tory like me they wouldn’t all have ticked each of my three boxes above but they all had weight, intellect, conviction and muscle. So does the present chancellor whom Ms Dodds must challenge, Rishi Sunak.

Everybody knows who Mr Sunak is. Mere incumbency is half the battle, of course, and it’s a cheap shot to say nobody knows who Ms Dodds is. Every rise to fame must start somewhere and Wednesday could have been the beginning of a remarkable ascent by the first ever female shadow chancellor. Something about Dodds is appealing, at least to people like me. She is measured, apparently competent in her economic brief and, if on the soft left, not an angry politician.

But a 45-minute speech — the prestigious annual Mais lecture — setting out the opposition’s economic stall at a time when a Conservative government is borrowing and spending like there was no tomorrow really should make waves. And if this was the launch of Doddonomics, then as she went down the slipway there was hardly a ripple, even among financial commentators. The Financial Times made a valiant pre-speech attempt to find Dodds interesting; a couple of Labour advisers under Jeremy Corbyn talked her up; and in the Telegraph Tom Harris chuckled that at least the hard left wouldn’t like the speech. In his short commentary on Thursday (“No blank cheque for Labour spending, says Anneliese Dodds”) The Times’s economics editor, Philip Aldrick, saw her paper as an attempt to “restore Labour’s record for economic responsibility”.

Had it succeeded, we should all be talking about it this weekend. We are not. There was, in Churchill’s phrase, no theme to this pudding. There were lots of wishful words — “responsible fiscal framework”, economic “resilience” and “security”; and some mildly notable stuff about accountability, promising to subject public spending to annual review by the National Audit Office, and to listen to their advice and learn from their reports. But the messaging about discipline was promptly hedged by warnings about the requirement for “flexibility” in times of crisis and the need for “investment”.

There was the usual stuff, the song of the prodigal down the ages, about spending more now in order to save money in the future; and the usual stuff about finding new money by cutting government waste (they all say that). There were also hints about a “fiscal anchor” which might have been significant but which I frankly couldn’t understand. Like balancing the books, but “across the cycle”, fiscal anchors tend to drag under tow from fiscal emergencies.

In summary this was a defensive effort, full of little internal tugs-of-war between prudence and flexibility and between being anchored (hurrah!) yet not tied down (boo!). The lecture was designed to soothe the fiscal hawks without frightening the socialist horses. Nevertheless, if the intention was to rebut criticism that Dodds has been too quiet, there will be some who judge that after the horrors of the Corbyn era, an economic speech that fulfils this purpose but makes no splash comes as a blessed relief.

I understand that view and vigorously reject it. “Oppositions don’t win general elections; governments lose them” was never a more dangerous cliché than now. Any idea that victory is just going to fall into Keir Starmer’s lap is fanciful. Boris Johnson may be — is — massively flawed but, propped by the steadying figures he has come to accept he needs, lifted by his flair and personal appeal, and shielded by two massive events — Brexit and the pandemic — that he may be able to present as battles he won, he may prove hard to beat. For all its lurching about, this Conservative government still looks like a busy, purposeful team in a time of trouble.

Sir Keir, meanwhile, is colourless. I think it’s his nature and probably incurable because he honestly doesn’t want to light up rooms, darken doors or whip up crowds. That being so, it becomes all the more important he leads a team containing big names, recognisable public figures. Harold Wilson, also rather dull, led such teams. Who on Starmer’s front bench has that heavyweight quality? Why is Yvette Cooper left out in the cold?

Tony Blair understood that an opposition leader needs to surprise. It’s often by the counterintuitive that we get noticed. Gordon Brown in opposition astonished with a promise to stick to Tory spending plans for two years, all but ambushing John Major from the right. To gather momentum, Starmer’s team needs not just to needle but to startle.

Dodds rightly criticised the Tories for chopping and changing, undermining workers’ economic security. So couldn’t she propose a trade-off between security and fiscal probity: reducing furlough to 70 per cent while promising to maintain it for the whole of 2021? This would cause an internal row and I realise Sir Keir doesn’t want to re-open wounds. Mr Blair, by contrast, used internal Labour rows to recommend himself to the wider electorate.

I use that just as an example. Starmer and Dodds are Labour’s top two. Only the leader can afford to be porridge. “If you thought you knew us, think again” should be the message to an electorate viscerally suspicious of Labour’s spendthrift tendencies. Doddonomics is not enough.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Yeah I think Forums are a distinct thing from what most would consider "social media". I think the key is that with social media you can just make a post apropos of nothing, thrown out into the void with no prior context required. With forums, every post is under a thread or a topic - and although threads can get wildly derailed and the topics can be extremely broad, and several different conversations can be going on at once... posts generally follow each other in a conversational fashion.

I think also really key part of social media is about how posts get shared, amplified, etc. and the main method of content subscription is by choosing to see everything that a particular person (or corporate entity) posts, rather than following a thread or topic where anybody can post (although twitter etc. do have "topics" and "lists" you can follow they are definitely not the primary method and most people don't even use them) - and that's what makes it primarily "social" media - it's a model similar to choosing somebody as a friend - you choose to have them around you, and you listen to all of the things that they might say to you, even though you might not be interested in some of it.

So like, take somebody in this thread, like Guavanaut. Guav's cool. They make good posts on the topic of the UK and British politics which I like seeing. Now Guav may make good posts on other subjects too, but let's say that they post in, oh I don't know, ADTRW a whole load about anime. Now that's fine of course and I'm not judging anybody's interests, but I would not be interested in that because I'm not into anime. Now the difference is, on social media, if I wanted to see Guav's content on my feed, I'd be constantly seeing both his UK politics related posts and all of his anime posts, and if they were making tons and tons of anime posts I'd probably unfollow because it's not something I want to talk or read about. In doing so I would necessarily also lose his politics posts from my feed, even though I *am* interested in those. So for that reason I think forums are valuable in a different way which will never be usurped by the socials.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
You might be able to do a similar thing with tags or whatever but those seem to become fleeting trends rather than a way of splitting someone's feed into different facets that they write about.

There's probably bias from growing up on 90s internet, but forums seem to hit a sweet spot between the totally anonymous of chans/chats/unregulated newsgroups where there's little coherency and people will drop by to post porn and call people gay Jew n-words because they can, and the rigorously identity attached but seldom topic attached form of academic email lists or facebooks.

It lends itself to reasonable length posts that can communicate ideas as much as it does "lol check this gif out" without encouraging solipsistic essays like blog platforms or high churn contentless drivel like imageboards, you can do inline links and images and footnotes, so it fits itself well to communicative posts that would look like unreadable novels on Facebook.

I think the biggest downside is also part of what you described as the upside, it's difficult (especially since insert joke about SA search) to find other things that people are talking about by person, so it necessarily becomes a filter by ideas rather than by people outside of the smallest forums or most famous forum personalities, and I'd have to trawl to find your long form thoughts on animes or premier league football if I wanted to find them. But yeah, that's just filling a different niche to most current social media, and every new Web 2.0 offering that claims "we're about ideas, not personalities" ends up poo poo and worse than forums.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Yeah, you still end up learning about people's personalities via crisp and CBT "derails" , but I come here for pure, unflinching Marxist rigour and the fluffy lols are just a lovely bonus

E: this of course can be ruined by terrible moderation, like in USPOL where iconoclastic high-impact freethinker geniuses like me get constantly probated for : off topic poo poo posting, posting about other posters, "vote shaming" (lmao), and the like. Partially it's a cultural thing I guess, but also it's a much larger thread with a lot more drive-by idiocy so I kinda get it. But still kudos to whoever keeps the show running here with a fairly light hand

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Jan 16, 2021

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

kingturnip posted:

This is horseshit, just so you know

Only partially. Homeschooling autistic children is bad, but large class sizes in a system unprepared are worse.

The true point is the horrid pun of a misunderstanding.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

OwlFancier posted:

Also stupid! I am the language arbiter and I proclaim English to be stupid.

My wife is Dutch and was horrified this week to discover that English has 7 (at least) ways to make the "e" sound (ee, ei, ie etc). She always moaned about how bad English was for learning but teaching our daughter to read has really brought home the scale of the issue. Homophones as mentioned have been an annoyance to her for ages, as have heteronyms (read Vs read etc), but the sheer madness of our vowel sounds has appalled her.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That's what happens when you call all diacritics foreign muck but refuse to simplify your vowels and then shift them several times at different points in different parts of the country.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

^^ and then you invade half the world and create lots of different Englishes with even more variations. That technology youtube guy pronounced "plagued" to rhyme with "pegged"

Lungboy posted:

My wife is Dutch and was horrified this week to discover that English has 7 (at least) ways to make the "e" sound (ee, ei, ie etc). She always moaned about how bad English was for learning but teaching our daughter to read has really brought home the scale of the issue. Homophones as mentioned have been an annoyance to her for ages, as have heteronyms (read Vs read etc), but the sheer madness of our vowel sounds has appalled her.

People like to say Dutch is hard to learn (especially Dutch people), but pronunciation-wise it really isn't - it's very regular and logical, once you get your read round G and SCH being crazy throat sounds, you just need to learn a simple set of rules with minimal exceptions. So yeah I can see why she's angry at English.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:

Home Office finally doing something that the ECtHR said they should have done decades ago.

Just not on purpose or with any kind of control.



Judging by that picture, it looked like the reason for the Data Wipe was because Priti Petel kept yelling at some poor, hurranged IT person until he accidentally deleted criticalfile.donotremove.exe and it broke everything.

Given the numerous accusations of office bullying, that woman looks like some kind of office tyrant.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

That's what happens when you call all diacritics foreign muck

Excuse me but some of us read the NëwYörker :wotwot:

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I agree that forums encourage a good post length. There's no pressure to be writing an essay but you're also not limited to bitesize messages. I have a feeling that social media, and particularly Twitter, has dumbed down the general standard of public debate by a) making it such a public and forever-attached-to-your-real-life-persona pissing contest and b) making you express your ideas in x number of characters. Facebook more the former, Twitter more the latter. I think it's part of what leads to so many circles ending up with 'truths' that become truths because they always have been, rather than because anyone's bothered to check if they're true.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

First Northern Ireland food hunt of 2021: Tesco in Ballymoney (Cow Town).

Fruit and veg (my main necessity)... they appear to have ALL of it, everything stocked.
No offal at all which was surprising, none of the 3L milk containers but enough of the smaller ones.
A few small shelves missing biscuits & soft drinks + a few brands of tea/coffee.

Apart from lamb's liver i got everything i was after, £58 for 3-4 weeks food. :discourse:

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Josef bugman posted:


Inflammable means flammable? What a country!

I think it was Keynes (or maybe some other mid-20C genius), who was working in insurance when he managed to both save his bosses millions and actually do a good thing by getting the word inflammable dropped from product labels.
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Liberals have spent the subsequent 80 years trying to find a second such neat example of a cost-free social improvement, while Tories have spent the same time regretting that shaky knowledge of Latin was no longer appropriately punished.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Subway may be hurting in Ireland at the moment.
Here in Cork City, my local Subway has a sign up saying 'some ingredients may not be available due to Brexit'.
I asked about it, and they said this was wasn't affected but were told to put it up just in case.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Absolutely lolling that the police state accidentally deleted a bunch of data most of which was probably fingerprints just routinely taken from (black) people being stopped for doing nothing at all (being black)

Finally Britain does something good even if it's by accident

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pistol_Pete posted:

Article in the Times, echoing this thread's opinion that Labour under Starmer is hopelessly passive and that that's not enough to win elections. Matthew Parris is a) a Tory and b) has strong centrist sympathies, which politically means that he loathes the Corbynite Left and is naturally rather sympathetic towards Starmer. So it's interesting to see him state so clearly that Labour's performance under Starmer just isn't good enough and that winning politicians actively step up and lead the political conversation.

So people are naturally concerned about Labour's "spendthrift tendencies", but Labour are still less popular than the Tories who are spending like there's no tomorrow (even if they're just giving it to their mates, because there is no tomorrow). Hmmm, I wonder if it's not actually these spendthrift tendencies that are prejudicing minds against the Labour party.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Prolly managed to throw out some Grenfell evidence at the same time though

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Just Another Lurker posted:

First Northern Ireland food hunt of 2021: Tesco in Ballymoney (Cow Town).

Fruit and veg (my main necessity)... they appear to have ALL of it, everything stocked.
No offal at all which was surprising, none of the 3L milk containers but enough of the smaller ones.
A few small shelves missing biscuits & soft drinks + a few brands of tea/coffee.

Apart from lamb's liver i got everything i was after, £58 for 3-4 weeks food. :discourse:

It's so mad that NI has a Ballymoney.
The Ballymoney I'm used to is Ballymoney Beach in Wexford.

In other news that went under the radar during the week, the British Government refused to say what criteria it has to meet to consider a Boarder Poll which would be a crucial step towards NI leaving the United Kingdom.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/british-government-declines-to-set-out-criteria-for-a-border-poll-1.4457745

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

TACD posted:

I admit my weekend drinking may have effected my language skills

I've noticed over the last few weeks I've been struggling to spell certain things or getting stuck finding a word I want to use. I hope its more of a case of laziness and not writing as often rather than my brain rotting, but its the first time in a long time I've had to sit and think about how something is spelt/spelled.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

The Question IRL posted:

It's so mad that NI has a Ballymoney.
The Ballymoney I'm used to is Ballymoney Beach in Wexford.

In other news that went under the radar during the week, the British Government refused to say what criteria it has to meet to consider a Boarder Poll which would be a crucial step towards NI leaving the United Kingdom.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/british-government-declines-to-set-out-criteria-for-a-border-poll-1.4457745

It's just another town half full with empty/boarded up shops and the rest of them being estate agents & hairdressers.

No idea what sort of game the government is doing; do they want to dump N.I. onto the E.U.s back or conduct a pre-emptive border poll to get a firm NO! from the populace.

Shenanigans by the gobshites either way (that sounder way too plastic paddy but whatever). :reject:

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Ironically the time has never been better for the chance of a unified Ireland. The current lot have no loyalty to nation so if they can some how get ever richer from jettisoning NI it will happen.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Just Another Lurker posted:

Shenanigans by the gobshites either way (that sounder way too plastic paddy but whatever). :reject:

No no, this statement is, and will always be, Correct, maith thú!

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Priti Patel rocking back and forward cradling a wiped hard-drive that used to be full of stopped-and-searched BAME citizen's details like it's a family cat which has been hit by a car.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The funniest thing is if they'd listened to the ECtHR instead of the Sun and automatically expunged all DNA and fingerprints taken as part of an arrest that didn't result in a conviction, and sealed the arrest records such that a judge could order them opened during a future trial but PC Savage couldn't lean on them as "we know they're a wrong'un, they keep getting arrested" then the database would be a lot more manageable and they probably wouldn't have managed to lose a bunch of actual convicted offender information along with all the 'random' stops and data harvesting.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Guavanaut posted:

The funniest thing is if they'd listened to the ECtHR instead of the Sun....

Let me stop you there.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I hate so many high profile labour people

https://twitter.com/HowUpsetting/status/1350408684694876161?s=19

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Butternubs
Feb 15, 2012
It never fails to astound me how incompetent the people who lead this country truly are.

They're evil sure but not even capable of pulling off their evil schemes predictably. They seem to cause the damage they want to but purely by accident and there's no task too simple that they cannot gently caress it up. If any of us peasants off the street made mistakes like this at work we'd lining up at the jobcentre. I'm not even sure most of the cabinet could fill in the forms.

If next weeks headline was "Covid bumble as Boris accidentally orders 10000 syringes of virus instead of vaccine" I would not be surprised.

Just feed the loving kids you piss brained cretins.

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