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Dawgstar posted:Sure is a nice way to put lie to the claim it was the lower middle class who feel 'forgotten.' Those folks don't have money to just fly up to DC and pitch a fit. Also, Baked Alaska streamed himself committing crimes inside the US Capitol building for roughly 27 minutes, and in doing so he made over $2,000 in donations from his weird clique of fans.
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Jan 17, 2021 00:38
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nine-gear crow posted:Also, Baked Alaska streamed himself committing crimes inside the US Capitol building for roughly 27 minutes, and in doing so he made over $2,000 in donations from his weird clique of fans. I wonder how much he got for when he was thrown out of a convenience store which took less time to threw him out than a world power's government did.
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Jan 17, 2021 01:03
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Dawgstar posted:I wonder how much he got for when he was thrown out of a convenience store which took less time to threw him out than a world power's government did. He was out on bail for either that crime or another when he went to DC.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:01
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Dawgstar posted:Sure is a nice way to put lie to the claim it was the lower middle class who feel 'forgotten.' Those folks don't have money to just fly up to DC and pitch a fit. Anyone who sets out to create a career as an “influencer” probably grew up rich because it costs money to get started and it takes a long time to make enough to live. Dude’s only job before going nazi streamer was making instagram and twitter content for Buzzfeed, which I feel like is typical intern poo poo.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:05
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I didn’t understand the appeal of Tim Rogers but I watched his 3 and a half hour Doom video and for whatever reason this one made me get it, so now I’m burning through his Kotaku stuff & will start up on his newer stuff shortly. He’s good.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:30
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Jordan7hm posted:I didn’t understand the appeal of Tim Rogers but I watched his 3 and a half hour Doom video and for whatever reason this one made me get it, so now I’m burning through his Kotaku stuff & will start up on his newer stuff shortly. He’s good. Tokimeki Memorial video is insanely good. I was able to finish it a while back and its just man, great video. He does two let's plays and I really appreciated it because its clear we won't ever get this game fully translated in english any time soon, or ever.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:31
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https://twitter.com/benedict_rs/status/1349954211358924800 This lady is being dragged for being right!
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Jan 17, 2021 02:44
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40-Degree Day posted:https://twitter.com/benedict_rs/status/1349954211358924800 Please tell me how you think this woman is right. In your own words.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:48
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She goes to an incredibly weird place by the end of that thread by saying people defending fanfic are the kind of people who drove a pseudonymous trans author to attempt suicide. Like there are two options there: a) she doesn't that author and does not know if what she's saying is true, in which case she's using the pain of another person for cheap internet argument points b) she DOES know the author and that this is true, in which case she's using the personal information of a presumably VERY private person (the author in question, Isabel Fall, basically disappeared after her controversial short story was pulled) for cheap internet argument points Metis of the Chat Thread fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Jan 17, 2021 02:49
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She's wrong. Most fanfiction is bad but so is most amateur writing, it's not somehow uniquely awful in that regard.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:50
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People can be annoying when they try and raise fanfic to some holy level of self-expression when so much of it is just lovely porn, but like, whatever? Who cares!!Arist posted:She's wrong. Most fanfiction is bad but so is most amateur writing, it's not somehow uniquely awful in that regard. yeah, this
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Jan 17, 2021 02:52
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40-Degree Day posted:https://twitter.com/benedict_rs/status/1349954211358924800 https://twitter.com/Capricornered/status/1350592114007044096
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Jan 17, 2021 02:52
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40-Degree Day posted:https://twitter.com/benedict_rs/status/1349954211358924800 She’s wrong. You can learn so much from fan fiction that you can use for original works. You don’t have to create a setting or characters but you do have to develop them and push them so you can learn structure, character development and growth, as well as pushing the property in a way that feels exciting. So when you sit down to write your own thing you know the most important pieces and it’s a lot easier. Also it’s fun.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:57
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I'm truly shocked that a field rife with amateur writers is full of amateur writers, and that bad writers immersed in a genre of bad writers learn from each other how to be worse because it's what the genre fans expect and want from them. I am, of course, talking about ancient aliens theorists.
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Jan 17, 2021 02:58
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What's funny is that was basically SA's opinion on fanfic until pretty recently.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:00
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CelticPredator posted:She’s wrong. It's especially funny when several of her published works are openly "inspired by" or are "retellings of" other works.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:07
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Shakespeare was a fanfic writer and he seems to have done pretty well for himself.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:09
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If fanfics are bad, then Shakespeare's plays are bad. Edit: Dammit, beaten to the punch.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:10
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shes right. nobody is talking about shakespeare when they say fanfic lol. you all know exactly what cultural products are being referred to
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Jan 17, 2021 03:16
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Im glad she's getting dunked on for what is obviously a potty tweet.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:18
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40-Degree Day posted:https://twitter.com/benedict_rs/status/1349954211358924800 I am also interested on seeing your reasoning.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:19
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poo poo I mean Vince Gilligan sent in his X-Files fan fics and got a job working on the show. Also if you're getting hired to be a writer you have to write a fan fiction anyway to see if you could jump into someone elses world and be able to work inside if it.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:22
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Dias posted:Shakespeare was a fanfic writer and he seems to have done pretty well for himself.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:23
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nine-gear crow posted:Also, Baked Alaska streamed himself committing crimes inside the US Capitol building for roughly 27 minutes, and in doing so he made over $2,000 in donations from his weird clique of fans. I wonder if the FBI can ding the donators for funding terrorism.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:25
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Farm Frenzy posted:shes right. nobody is talking about shakespeare when they say fanfic lol. you all know exactly what cultural products are being referred to Yes fictional stories with characters created by others. Literally is of the oldest writing forms
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Jan 17, 2021 03:26
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There are so many successful and celebrated authors that not only cut their authorial teeth on fanfiction, but flat our repurposed their fanfiction into totally original stories that sold a ton of copies, including the crazy Omegaverse lady. gently caress gatekeeping.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:28
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if literally all fiction is fanfiction then that tweet should just harmlessly roll off your back and not mean anything
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Jan 17, 2021 03:29
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Farm Frenzy posted:if literally all fiction is fanfiction then that tweet should just harmlessly roll off your back and not mean anything If the last ~all of America~ has proven one thing, it's that letting people quietly be wrong does absolutely nothing good in the long term.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:34
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I mean, even without taking into account how the practice of retelling and rewriting stories is part of the literary canon, I'm not sure what especifically makes fanfic that much worse of a breeding ground for writers other than maybe having an audience that is too positive (if they like your ship, anyway), or if it really matters - most people suck at writing anyway.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:35
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Farm Frenzy posted:if literally all fiction is fanfiction then that tweet should just harmlessly roll off your back and not mean anything It does but I wanna dunk on twitter person because she's got a case of the dumb take.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:37
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I mean fanfic has been always seen as a hobby full of crazy teen girls with their mary sues, so acknowledging that a lot of the hate towards it comes from society's weird need to despise the things teen girls like is pretty important. It's ultimately like literally everything, most of it is poo poo but there's still some good stuff out there.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:39
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Farm Frenzy posted:if literally all fiction is fanfiction then that tweet should just harmlessly roll off your back and not mean anything It's a funny take that is also bad, OP, until she brings up Isabel Fall, which is loving vile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flS-Xjdf910 LPL brings us a very strange device.
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Jan 17, 2021 03:46
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Queer Salutations posted:I mean fanfic has been always seen as a hobby full of crazy teen girls with their mary sues, so acknowledging that a lot of the hate towards it comes from society's weird need to despise the things teen girls like is pretty important. It's ultimately like literally everything, most of it is poo poo but there's still some good stuff out there. Yeah, it's like hating on Twilight for the wrong reasons when there are still plenty of reasons to dislike it aside from "girls dig it."
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Jan 17, 2021 03:49
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Farm Frenzy posted:if literally all fiction is fanfiction then that tweet should just harmlessly roll off your back and not mean anything It me, looking at that lady’s tweets and going whooooooo the gently caress cares? 
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Jan 17, 2021 03:58
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I mean, go to a writers’ workshop and you won’t like what you read any better. It takes lots of time spent reading and writing to get to where you can write something people will want to read, and even then you have to be pretty clever in some regard. But people write for many reasons and that’s great and they should. Professional quality is not really a fair standard to apply to someone’s hobby or social activity, especially if they’re kids. Of course then there’s that wolf rape porn lady from Lindsay’s video last month.
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Jan 17, 2021 04:00
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I wonder how said 'suit' from teehee noncon wolf lady is going.
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Jan 17, 2021 04:20
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 "People may dismiss fan fiction as being low art, but I'll have you know many acclaimed authors cut their teeth on fan fiction, and it serves as a way for writers to gain skill." "In that case, would you read my Warhammer 40K X Fate Stay/Night lemon fic and give me some feedback? It's not long, just like three or four hundred single-spaced pages." "I would, but uh, I'm busy this weekend. And next weekend. And the weekend after that. Actually, I'm busy for every weekend up until the day I die. Sorry, weird coincidence."
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Jan 17, 2021 06:30
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I'm not a hypocrite for defending contemporary art just because I don't want a dead shark in my lounge.
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Jan 17, 2021 06:35
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Max Wilco posted:
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Jan 17, 2021 06:44
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Max Wilco posted:
Just a sorry I'm not interested is enough man. Or do it for your friends, whatever.
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Jan 17, 2021 06:51
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