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So did they vote on making poor people even poorer today? I can't seem to find anything about the result anywhere. [edit] 111 is something called Nelson in Cricket and is very bad luck. If David Shephard were still alive and posting in this thread, he'd be standing on one leg because that helps or something.
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if you make people poorer and poorer eventually they have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps or die
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Jan 18, 2021 17:58
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Dead Goon posted:So did they vote on making poor people even poorer today? I can't seem to find anything about the result anywhere. Vote should be 19:00 - 19:30 (its opposition day so meaningless anyway).
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Jan 18, 2021 17:58
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Debate started about 20 minutes ago
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The Question IRL posted:I had been told that the UK had moved towards a system where apologies were made and wrongdoings admitted (as a means to reduce liability cases. Which studies have shown that it often does.) but I don't know what has happened here. Yeah, that doesn't happen often enough. Admittedly, it's hard to tell for sure, since the ones where the institution immediately admits their mistake don't tend to make the news (because those wronged are less likely to feel aggrieved in the long-run). But generally, people are still worried that they'll be fired if they admit that they did something wrong. And, sadly, you only need one person in the chain to be unwilling to own up to their cock-up, and suddenly everyone below them is left hanging. If I gently caress up, do I trust my manager to have my back? In my case, probably; and her manager. But her manager? Eeeh, I don't know her well enough to be sure. So if the gently caress-up is bad enough to get kicked 3 rungs up the ladder, I'm taking my career in my own hands if I admit my part in it. Fortunately, in my role, there's a limit to the number of ways I can gently caress up that would require it to be escalated that far, but then I don't work in acute care.
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Jan 18, 2021 18:19
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An absolute classic of the "politicians standing in front of writing" genre https://twitter.com/amphitryoniades/status/1351214987428196352?s=19
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Jan 18, 2021 18:35
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kingturnip posted:Yeah, that doesn't happen often enough.
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keep punching joe posted:Vote should be 19:00 - 19:30 (its opposition day so meaningless anyway). Kieth not going to be there then?!
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Jan 18, 2021 18:38
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That's perfect Keir, you climb that mountain of conflict.
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Jan 18, 2021 19:08
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The QC (No not that one) having a 3 day meltdown over accusing a Verified Twitter user of not actually being Jewish is something else. I'd link to it but I made the mistake of quoting a tweet and he blocked me within 45 seconds. He's been doing this all day. What a time to be alive. If you just search Simon Myerson it will come up.
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Jose posted:not really surprising that the end result of the press hyping up antisemitism on the left has QCs accusing jews of not being jewish For reference.
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TACD posted:Well bollocks This has happened to me before. In addition to getting properly registered at a new GP remember you can also get a temporary reg which is usually quite quick. That will at least allow them to process a prescription in the meantime. If the medication is vital and she's running out (insulin for example) I would recommend just turning up at the local hospital and explaining the situation particularly if it has a relevant clinic. Hospital docs can legally write prescriptions just like your GP, and they would pretty much have to in that situation. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 18, 2021 |
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Jan 18, 2021 20:30
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How did they get them so dry?
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Jan 18, 2021 20:34
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serious gaylord posted:The QC (No not that one) having a 3 day meltdown over accusing a Verified Twitter user of not actually being Jewish is something else. 
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Desiderata posted:That's perfect Keir, you climb that mountain of conflict. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ&t=92s Why is he climbing a mountain? He wants to make love to the mountain.
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Jan 18, 2021 20:42
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So the universal credit thing passed. Guess they should have suggested whacking another 50 quid on it.
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Jan 18, 2021 20:49
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So the universal credit thing passed. Guess they should have suggested whacking another 50 quid on it. Why? The government will ignore it either way
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How will they ignore it? Do you just mean in general, or am I confused and the motion having passed does not mean that UC will now not drop by the 20 quid scheduled?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:How will they ignore it? Because the motion is "That this House believes that the Government should stop the planned cut in Universal Credit and Working Tax Credit in April and give certainty today to the six million families for whom it is worth an extra £1,000 a year." It's not saying it has to happen, just that parliament agrees that it should.
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Jan 18, 2021 20:56
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Ah I see. The abstention just means it'll drop out of view and happen anyway.
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Jan 18, 2021 21:00
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Yeah it was an opposition day vote so doesn't have any power.
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Jan 18, 2021 21:16
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Lungboy posted:Yeah it was an opposition day vote so doesn't have any power. Well it is an Act of Parliament it just doesn't order anything to happen. If it had been phrased in a way to force the government to do something then the government would have opposed it.
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A motion isn't an Act. Just because it isn't binding though, it's still constitutionally outrageous for the Government to just flat-out ignore the expressed will of Parliament. Don't ever forget that, or whose legacy it is.
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Borrovan posted:A motion isn't an Act. Yeah oopsie about motions and acts, good thing I'm not in parliament!
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Jan 18, 2021 21:34
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I said this earlier about lentils but I'm not sure all this democrazy stuff is worth the faff.
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Jan 18, 2021 21:46
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Definitely a motion all right.
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Borrovan posted:A motion isn't an Act. How is that any different from the other 700 times that a Tory Govt has flatly ignored the expressed will of Parliament in the last 10 years?
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sebzilla posted:An absolute classic of the "politicians standing in front of writing" genre Whether he's got the wow factor to win
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Communist Thoughts posted:Whether he's got the wow factor to win honestly that would have been better than what they actually asked him at the end of that video
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Jan 18, 2021 23:07
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does the electorate want to gently caress you, as it were
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ThomasPaine posted:If the medication is vital and she's running out (insulin for example) I would recommend just turning up at the local hospital and explaining the situation particularly if it has a relevant clinic. Hospital docs can legally write prescriptions just like your GP, and they would pretty much have to in that situation. Please don’t do this, not great advice at the best of times and positively terrible advice right at this moment.
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Trades posted:Please don’t do this, not great advice at the best of times and positively terrible advice right at this moment. Compared to dying because you have no insulin?
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We’re talking about a situation where someone is at risk of a repeat prescription dropping off at an unspecified point in future, not where they have hours of a life essential medication left. GPs are able to offer same day prescriptions, and someone has already mentioned temporary registration. The use of hospital resources in that manner for nearly every situation, excepting possibly insulin and anti-epileptics, is ridiculous, and the risk to whoever rocks up at A&E at the moment of getting COVID is enormous, so yes, it is deeply irresponsible advice.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I said this earlier about lentils but I'm not sure all this democrazy stuff is worth the faff. Compared to every other power system it really is. If there are any online lefties that genuinely don't think the big tech companies aren't going to swerve the banhammer towards them hard a. in the next few years and b. with zero pushback because the banned were presumably problematic then please PM me I have an exciting Sahara Sunset Club opportunity for you.
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kingturnip posted:How is that any different from the other 700 times that a Tory Govt has flatly ignored the expressed will of Parliament in the last 10 years? Don't fall into the trap of thinking that's just how it ever was, it's a very recent thing & fundamentally undermines parliamentary democracy. E: I was gonna put a bit of a joke here about how maybe this whole parliamentary democracy thing wasn't that strong to start with, but otoh our constitution was probably among the most stable in world history until recently, but eh best burn it down if there's a chance of commie Corbyn getting in Borrovan fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jan 18, 2021 |
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Vitamin P posted:If there are any online lefties that genuinely don't think the big tech companies aren't going to swerve the banhammer towards them hard a. in the next few years and b. with zero pushback because the banned were presumably problematic then please PM me I have an exciting Sahara Sunset Club opportunity for you. Mate, they already do this? Most Leftists online who do funny talking on twitter have gotten banned multiple times for doing things like "telling Elon Musk to eat my whole rear end" or calling a Conservative MP a "Slug faced damp hamburger". This has already happened, how the gently caress is someone so terminally online as posting on something awful not seen this already?
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It's afraid!
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Josef bugman posted:Mate, they already do this? Most Leftists online who do funny talking on twitter have gotten banned multiple times for doing things like "telling Elon Musk to eat my whole rear end" or calling a Conservative MP a "Slug faced damp hamburger". This has already happened, how the gently caress is someone so terminally online as posting on something awful not seen this already? That isn't true though, posting lib-tier identikit meme owns is still absolutely allowed. The closest example of what you're talking about is like The Serfs getting banned for functionally no reason? And yeah that's bad but are you genuinely saying that lib-left people are banned more than alt-right people are? That's an absurd thing to say.
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