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Fame Douglas posted:There likely is no specificity requirement, and pardons don't need to use any kind of set verbiage. And people still being considered guilty even after a pardon isn't universally accepted, either. Burdick v. United States. I mean saying "isn't universally accepted" what the gently caress does that mean? It isn't "universally accepted" that Hillary Clinton isn't a lizard person, that Trump isn't a freedom fighter battling the deep state and a satanic pedophile ring. There's a lot of things that are facts that not universally accepted.
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BiggerBoat posted:How hosed are these people? NEw footage I haven't seen posted from the "peaceful" march on the Capitol. I'm still surprised that even with this "new footage" coming to light, they're continuing to sit on the fact that these assholes SMEARED THEIR OWN poo poo ON THE WALLS AND FLOOR, and that Sicknick didn't just fall dead to the floor as if he were Avada Kedavra'ed, they knocked him unconscious and BEAT HIS UNCONSCIOUS BODY TO DEATH WITH LEAD PIPES AND SIGN POLES. But ~boys will be boys~! 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I'm still surprised that even with this "new footage" coming to light, they're continuing to sit on the fact that these assholes SMEARED THEIR OWN poo poo ON THE WALLS AND FLOOR, and that Sicknick didn't just fall dead to the floor as if he were Avada Kedavra'ed, they knocked him unconscious and BEAT HIS UNCONSCIOUS BODY TO DEATH WITH LEAD PIPES AND SIGN POLES. That's some seriously impressive stuff since after they beat him to death he got up and went back to the station apparently
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pseudanonymous posted:Burdick v. United States. Nowhere in that decision does the court find that accepting a pardon necessarily means you accept guilt, just that it potentially implies guilt. Acceptance of a pardon is not an admission of guilt. It's not accepted among legal scholars, why are you bringing in weird conspiracy theories that have nothing to do with the issue at hand like you're Vital Signs.
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Q: if you were innocent, wouldn’t you be better served in court getting the conviction overturned/quashed?
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It can be expensive and extremely disruptive to have to fight in court, and there is always the chance that you get found guilty anyway because of a lovely jury or judge.
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Kerbtree posted:Q: if you were innocent, wouldn’t you be better served in court getting the conviction overturned/quashed? a pardon is free
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Cup Runneth Over posted:a pardon is free In theory, yes: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/17/rudy-giuliani-associate-john-kiriakou-trump-pardon
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i am also selling pardons, if you give me two million dollars you will be pardoned and you will also be given an emerald level membership on the something awful forums
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THS posted:i am also selling pardons, if you give me two million dollars you will be pardoned and you will also be given an emerald level membership on the something awful forums For that money I expect Carnelian level or higher
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pseudanonymous posted:Burdick v. United States. Burdick is focused on whether a pardon could be refused, in particular whether a pardoned individual could then be forced to waive their 5th amendment rights and testify. The quote that everyone uses from Burdick to support the contention that a pardon is an acceptance of guilt wasn’t a finding of law, it was simply an observation that one reason a person might choose to refuse a pardon was to avoid the implication that they were guilty. Until there’s actually a test case where a pardon is used as proof of commission of a crime there isn’t any settled law on this, insofar as law is ever really settled since the Supreme Court is constantly rewriting it.
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Kerbtree posted:Q: if you were innocent, wouldn’t you be better served in court getting the conviction overturned/quashed? Lol no. Being innocent and wrongly convicted doesn't guarantee you won't rot in prison. Plus Hard to imagine someone with enough political pull for a pardon suffering for it. Hard to believe trumps bought into the billshit about his legacy if he pardons his friends family and self.
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THS posted:i am also selling pardons, if you give me two million dollars you will be pardoned and you will also be given an emerald level membership on the something awful forums what's the legality on this? if i bump into you and say, "oh, pardon me" do i owe you two mil?
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BiggerBoat posted:How hosed are these people? NEw footage I haven't seen posted from the "peaceful" march on the Capitol. Bwahaha larping a movie guy who rifles through a stack of papers and finds the good poo poo. Also that cop begging them not to desecrate the sacred temple.
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Kerbtree posted:Q: if you were innocent, wouldn’t you be better served in court getting the conviction overturned/quashed? if you're rich enough to do that, you probably already tried and failed bc you're spectacularly guilty
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Lib and let die posted:what's the legality on this?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:SMEARED THEIR OWN poo poo ON THE WALLS AND FLOOR
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BiggerBoat posted:How hosed are these people? NEw footage I haven't seen posted from the "peaceful" march on the Capitol. It's very funny to me that these people apparently thought that just aimlessly milling about the capitol for a while = a coup. That's how it works right, like when you're capturing the objective in Call of Duty, or Battlefield?
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Biplane posted:It's very funny to me that these people apparently thought that just aimlessly milling about the capitol for a while = a coup. That's how it works right, like when you're capturing the objective in Call of Duty, or Battlefield?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Some of them switched the flags, right? Unfortunately for them, the objective was the main flag on top of the building, they just managed to capture individual rooms inside. But it should have been slowly lowering as they spent time inside.
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The Lone Badger posted:But it should have been slowly lowering as they spent time inside.
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Biplane posted:It's very funny to me that these people apparently thought that just aimlessly milling about the capitol for a while = a coup. That's how it works right, like when you're capturing the objective in Call of Duty, or Battlefield? Nah. Didn't you see the part where they take a seat and try to form a government?
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:https://twitter.com/CopingMAGA/status/1351378851276890113/photo/1 it really sank in this is chuds turning into 2016 liberals when i saw some post saying when the GOP takes the house back in 2022 they should make trump speaker
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taqueso posted:this bit, at least, is clearly protected political expression They were finally able to record their ideology into a fixed medium.
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Business Gorillas posted:it really sank in this is chuds turning into 2016 liberals when i saw some post saying when the GOP takes the house back in 2022 they should make trump speaker the key difference between Q and louise mensch is that Q does take great pleasure in reporting this
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post trump cabinet members realizing that their careers are going to die with trump here https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1351733383856939009 first gay cabinet member tho lol
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:post trump cabinet members realizing that their careers are going to die with trump here OPENLY gay
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well yeah kinda like how we haven't had an *openly* gay president yet, but you see buchanan,
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Sounds like they're all in the market for a new authoritarian daddy. Have they considered Joseph R Biden?
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Well find out in four years
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In four years all white men in the US will have been killed by a newly black Joe Biden.
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Biplane posted:In four years all white men in the US will have been killed by a newly black Joe Biden. The year is 2023. The Black Machines have won. SorosNet unleashed it's anti-white missiles against the remaining caucasian population, wiping out our cities. And for those who survived, it sent the Terminators. *Camera pan up to a Terminator with a matte black finish and a Joe Biden skin-mask, flapping in the breeze as it crushes a skull underfoot, a Gadsden Flag fluttering off the skeletal ribcage half-buried in ash.* We should have fought back when Diamond Joe cracked open GEOTUS Trump's ribcage on live stream and crushed his heart in his hands, screaming in technophonic elation. We should have seen it coming, when the Antifa SuperSoldiers marched down our streets, and Black Panther Tanks ran roughshod through our neighborhoods. We should have seen it all coming. And now the Terminators are sending one of their own back in time, to try to kill the leader of the Persistence, Barron Trump. We must send our best, one of our Very Good People, back to stop it. The final battle would not be fought in the future. It would be fought here, in our present. Today...
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J.A.B.C. posted:The year is 2023. The Black Machines have won. SorosNet unleashed it's anti-white missiles against the remaining caucasian population, wiping out our cities. And for those who survived, it sent the Terminators. 
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Biplane posted:In four years all white men in the US will have been killed by a newly black Joe Biden. inshallah
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miniscule12 posted:Sounds like they're all in the market for a new authoritarian daddy.  2024, the year of the salad
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Washington DC Craigslist is taking the news well
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Thumposaurus posted:Washington DC Craigslist is taking the news well They're right but not for the reasons they think.
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Is there a tax credit for using the caps lock key that I don't know about, I mean honestly
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