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I didn't realize it was THIS grim for the NL Centralquote:I defined a “major addition” as an MLB free agent contract of any value or any trade acquisition with at least one day of MLB service time. As of this writing, here is a comprehensive list of every major addition within the NL Central this offseason. (2020 fWAR in parentheses)
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Well good on Cohen I guess
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Jan 19, 2021 16:53
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Mike_V posted:I didn't realize it was THIS grim for the NL Central This division is up in the air and nobody wants it.
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Jan 19, 2021 16:56
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On the contrary it looks to me like the Reds want it. Look at all those major acquisitions! Plus they refused to give Castillo up for peanuts.
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Jan 19, 2021 17:03
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Yeah I read somewhere that the entire NLC has spent less than a million dollars in free agency
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Jan 19, 2021 17:26
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Good on the Mets for promptly firing Porter, I’m sure we’re all in agreement you can’t have someone who abuses power like that in such a position. As for who knew what when - the reporting makes clear he targeted someone isolated, who he knew was unlikely to speak up. Perfectly believable to me he kept this entirely under wraps until she agreed to let ESPN run the story. Other information could surface of course
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Jan 19, 2021 17:35
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bawfuls posted:On the contrary it looks to me like the Reds want it. Look at all those major acquisitions! Plus they refused to give Castillo up for peanuts. I don't agree that a trade centered around Frazier is peanuts.
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Jan 19, 2021 17:51
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I like Clint Frazier but he isn’t in the same universe of value as Castillo.
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Jan 19, 2021 17:57
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Even if you think Jon Lester is cooked, and I do, there are worse uses of 5 million bucks when you simply need 3-4 more human bodies capable of starting games this year. Add to that the whole “Best FA in Cubs history” that didn’t get a goodbye thanks to the rona, a fig leaf for the Ricketts clan’s desire to tank, or at the very least a veteran you might be able to flip at the deadline- which is what I thought tanks were looking for yet...Tom Ricketts posted:I would always take Jed’s recommendation on what to do with what happens on the field, but I don’t think anybody’s tearing anything down. Gordon Wittenmyer posted:The mandate from ownership and the business side wouldn’t allow Hoyer to make an offer. And even when the Nationals offer came in, and Lester gave the Cubs a chance to counter, the Cubs were “not close” to the Nats — perhaps as low as $2 million.
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Jan 19, 2021 18:04
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well obviously Castillo can't be anything like as good as Frazier because he plays in red and white not in pinstripes
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Jan 19, 2021 18:06
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GalacticAcid posted:I like Clint Frazier but he isn’t in the same universe of value as Castillo. I really like Clint Frazier, I think he will be a good player for a while, I think the Yanks jerked him around a bit, I want him to do well, and boy howdy I would trade him in a heartbeat for Castillo.
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Jan 19, 2021 18:09
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Man if the Jays don't sign Springer this offseason will be such a loving joke. On me, for being a jackass and believing their "aggressive" talk.
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Jan 19, 2021 18:11
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GoatSeeGuy posted:Even if you think Jon Lester is cooked, and I do, there are worse uses of 5 million bucks when you simply need 3-4 more human bodies capable of starting games this year. Add to that the whole “Best FA in Cubs history” that didn’t get a goodbye thanks to the rona, a fig leaf for the Ricketts clan’s desire to tank, or at the very least a veteran you might be able to flip at the deadline- which is what I thought tanks were looking for yet... Yeah Lester was not only willing to re-sign with Chicago for a massive discount, he gave the Cubs not one but two chances to go "hey if you counter with an offer even remotely close I'll stay with you guys" and they couldn't manage it because even after moving Darvish's salary apparently $4M is just too much to spend.  Lester is almost certainly cooked but we need loving starters, Jon is a Cubs legend at this point, and we're loving tanking anyway so why not soak up some easy fan good will and throw a pittance at Lester to keep him around?
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Jan 19, 2021 18:13
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Castillo is only 2 years older than Frazier and both his floor and his ceiling are way higher than Frazier's only the homeriest of Yankee fans would call that trade anything but a slam-dunk
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Jan 19, 2021 18:15
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Fangraphs writeup of the Musgrove trade from Ben Clemens. I think it was a poor decision to move him when there’s like two teams trying. The prospects coming back are somewhat interesting but not really my type. I wish the Jays had been willing to part with Manoah (I have no idea whether this was requested or anything, but that I thought a Manoah+ a throw-in was plausible based on the interested teams). So it goes.
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Jan 19, 2021 18:20
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Hi, I'm Nick Mullen, the new Mets GM. AMA.
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Jan 19, 2021 19:00
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Twitter is a disease. https://twitter.com/StevenACohen2/status/1351562323782234114?s=20
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Jan 19, 2021 19:30
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Julio Cruz posted:Castillo is only 2 years older than Frazier and both his floor and his ceiling are way higher than Frazier's Fraizer got regular play for the first time last year and had a 900 OPS with league avg defense. That is pretty good. Not sure why people are undervaluing him. I would trade him for Castillo because the Yankees need pitching but he's a starting corner outfielder on a good team for a long time going forward.
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Jan 19, 2021 20:32
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I feel like Frazier getting regular play for the first time last season (39 games btw) is part of the problem here. For one reason or another, the Yankees haven't used him on a regular basis but the one time they do and he posts a 149 ops+ that somehow makes him as valuable as Castillo? I'd really like for the Angels to trade for Luis Castillo but I don't think Jared Walsh is remotely close enough to get it done Johnny Bravo fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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Jan 19, 2021 20:58
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Wow Frazier might be an overpay. Might get it done with just Miguel Andujar. He can play 3rd!
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Jan 19, 2021 21:38
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Johnny Bravo posted:I feel like Frazier getting regular play for the first time last season (39 games btw) is part of the problem here. For one reason or another, the Yankees haven't used him on a regular basis but the one time they do and he posts a 149 ops+ that somehow makes him as valuable as Castillo? He was a defensive liability blocked by a plus defender in Gardner and they needed to get Stanton in the lineup. He's legitimately improved in the field. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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Jan 19, 2021 22:32
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https://twitter.com/kavithadavidson/status/1351636714700345347 Good job everyone!
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Jan 19, 2021 22:35
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I haven't been keeping up with the offseason too much this time, but now I see it looks like the Padres are definitely in the Not loving Around Crew. I wonder how they will do?
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Jan 19, 2021 23:03
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am I right in thinking that Joey Lucchesi used to be a pretty highly-regarded prospect?
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Jan 19, 2021 23:07
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Don Sutton died last night, this past year or so really taking a toll on living Hall of Famers https://twitter.com/lifeisgreatsut/status/1351640873377779715
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Jan 19, 2021 23:11
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Julio Cruz posted:am I right in thinking that Joey Lucchesi used to be a pretty highly-regarded prospect? he was a padres top 10 prospect back in 2017 in the general sense of "4 reasonably good pitches, almost certainly going to stay a starter, probably never going to be better than a 3/4 unless his fastball really improves (it didn't). He was a lot more exciting as a college kid with a fastball that "touches 96" than a pro with a fastball that's about 90 on a good day tbh.
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Jan 19, 2021 23:15
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Mike_V posted:I didn't realize it was THIS grim for the NL Central Personally very excited for two consecutive seasons of pretending that baseball was cancelled.
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Jan 19, 2021 23:18
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Very glad that the lesson we learned from being swept by the Marlins was "We need to be more like the Marlins" and not "Maybe we should be better than the Marlins"
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Jan 19, 2021 23:30
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bawfuls posted:Don Sutton died last night, this past year or so really taking a toll on living Hall of Famers Sutton never played for the Braves but after Skip Caray he's the voice I associate with them from his decade at TBS, and then another decade in the radio booth. He was never an icon or anything, but he was pretty dependable and until the last couple years he didn't let the stupid opinions about training and longevity (and...other things) that he developed over a playing career of ridiculous good fortune with injuries get in the way of talking through the game in front of him. Honestly not surprised that he wound down this quickly, he'd had quite a cancer scare previously and he sounded like poo poo the few games that he did in 2018. When he broke his leg back in 2019 it seems like his body pretty much shut up shop. Thanks for the memories, Don.
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Jan 20, 2021 00:24
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/kavithadavidson/status/1351636714700345347 
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Jan 20, 2021 00:37
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elentar posted:Sutton never played for the Braves but after Skip Caray he's the voice I associate with them from his decade at TBS, and then another decade in the radio booth. He was never an icon or anything, but he was pretty dependable and until the last couple years he didn't let the stupid opinions about training and longevity (and...other things) that he developed over a playing career of ridiculous good fortune with injuries get in the way of talking through the game in front of him. https://twitter.com/grantmcauley/status/1351655204991725569
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Jan 20, 2021 00:48
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/kavithadavidson/status/1351636714700345347 https://twitter.com/HannahRKeyser/status/1351642801482702851 My brain made weird angry noises when I read this.
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Jan 20, 2021 01:09
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1351658074474491904
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Jan 20, 2021 01:47
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2021 Kirby Yates and Tyler Chatwood? Slow down, Jays. Leave some good free agents for everyone else. E: this may look foolish if what is posted after me is actually true. Twin Cinema fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jan 20, 2021 |
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Jan 20, 2021 02:17
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None of the big guys have it yet, but... https://twitter.com/RadioVendetta/status/1351707636367056899?s=19
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Jan 20, 2021 02:51
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Jan 20, 2021 03:01
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WE HAVE AN OUTFIELDER WHO CAN PLAY!
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Jan 20, 2021 03:11
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What is actually involved in an athlete's physical? I know when I get one it always feels like a waste of time but I'd assume they would be more involved for players.
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Jan 20, 2021 03:19
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Good for Springer. The Man in White will help Springer keep his productivity level I'm sure.
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Jan 20, 2021 03:42
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Shiroc posted:What is actually involved in an athlete's physical? I know when I get one it always feels like a waste of time but I'd assume they would be more involved for players. Comprehensive blood tests, checks on heart functions, stress test, metabolic functions like liver and kidneys, basic stretching / range of motion stuff, turn your head and cough while the doc looks at your balls. Relatively simple stuff.
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