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JollyBoyJohn posted:All you people who hate working from home, you must really really like your jobs and really hate your own free time. I’ve enjoyed my work since I stopped doing the desk job thing in 2014, even if I’ve had jobs I’ve hated. But I really enjoy my free time and that’s why I like having a hard boundary between my work and my free time.
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Aramek posted:I have never worked, and thus cannot conceive a job that you can do from home. Like, is it office work? Computer touching? Is your life like the Office Space movie? What are meetings like, what do they do, the movie made it seem like meetings didn't do anything. I used to work in a call centre and occasionally had to attend meetings. I think they were supposed to give the impression that our input was valued and would be taken into consideration, but it wasn't and wouldn't. But you got paid to not work for a while, so that was a plus.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I’ve enjoyed my work since I stopped doing the desk job thing in 2014, even if I’ve had jobs I’ve hated. But I really enjoy my free time and that’s why I like having a hard boundary between my work and my free time. That explains it quite well and to be fair the longer this continues the more i understand it
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Jan 20, 2021 13:23
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JollyBoyJohn posted:All you people who hate working from home, you must really really like your jobs and really hate your own free time. My partner likes the social aspect of her job. When she works from home the only people she really interacts with are me and our daughter. It's fine for short periods but when she was doing wfh for months she hated it.
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Jan 20, 2021 13:23
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Maybe it is the difference between extroverted and introverted? I don't really want to interact with my colleagues much and don't do it when I'm at the office either. I am nice to them and don't shut them down when they try to talk about their weekend or whatever but I never try to extend any conversations. The only people I like to be with is my wife and the rest of my family. Everyone else is just white noise - so working from home for nearly a year now has been so good. Not having to take the subway anywhere either is so good. So much more freedom in a day and when there are lulls you can just shitpost or play a game or take a walk or whatever. I dread the day when I have to be in the office 5 days a week again 
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Jan 20, 2021 13:23
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Its partly that because i dont like people but honestly not having to use a car is a bigger positive than all the other factors combined
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Jan 20, 2021 13:25
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Zzulu posted:I dread the day when I have to be in the office 5 days a week again I'm convinced if this happens we are going to see the biggest wave of mental health issues in modern society
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Jan 20, 2021 13:32
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I'm convinced if this happens we are going to see the biggest wave of mental health issues in modern society I don't know. The one we have right now from a plague causing people to isolate, lose their job, not be with dying loved ones, and not be able to effectively seek in person help seems worse.
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Jan 20, 2021 14:17
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WFH must be nice for people with families to hold their hands through everything but I'm alone in a shoebox in the city, and it sucks.
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Jan 20, 2021 14:38
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I worked from home for like five years and immediately after work finished I'd need to leave the house and do something. Once being at home started to feel like I was "still at work" I quit. I can't imagine what it's like for people right now where you're stuck at home 100% of the time. I'll take the risk of infection just to keep my home feeling like my home.
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Jan 20, 2021 14:40
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I’ve enjoyed my work since I stopped doing the desk job thing in 2014, even if I’ve had jobs I’ve hated. But I really enjoy my free time and that’s why I like having a hard boundary between my work and my free time. Yeah, that's why I left my job in academia originally - any time felt like it could be work time and the attitude of "you'll fall behind if you don't work whenever possible" that got drilled into my head in grad school made it pretty much impossible to ever relax. So I quit and took this job, which was very nice to be able to not think about work any time I wasn't in the office...for like a year, and now here we are coming up on a full year of work from home in a month or two. It's nice in theory if you can mentally flip the switch between work time and free time, but it's a lot easier to say "even though it would be nice to get ahead on some of my work, I can't because my laptop is in the office" than having the temptation always there.
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Jan 20, 2021 14:56
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Shout out to all the engineers and academics itt that love their job so much they dont know what 5pm means to us normal under appreciated overworked underpaid plebs
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oldpainless posted:I do not prefer working from home. Welp thanks for reading my post. No problem, thanks for posting. Aramek posted:I have never worked, and thus cannot conceive a job that you can do from home. Like, is it office work? Computer touching? Is your life like the Office Space movie? What are meetings like, what do they do, the movie made it seem like meetings didn't do anything. I build and design online courses for the CPA exam and CPA continuing education.
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I loved working from home at first. Later I realized it was messing with my ability to relax at home. I found out I'm a guy who mentally relies on spaces for mental cues and it turns out the short commute home and plopping my rear end down in the living room was a ritual that got me out of work mode and into relax mode. I don't like my home - which used to be the place I was free and didn't do a single thing I didn't want to do - being turned into my work place. I don't like someone being able to call/email me in my own home and tell me about a new responsibility. PLUS it is really messing with coworkers' home/work schedule boundaries. Sending out a flagged email at 7 used to be unheard of but now it's just something people do and then bitch about if you didn't see it and respond.
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Jan 20, 2021 16:30
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Shout out to all the engineers and academics itt that love their job so much they dont know what 5pm means to us normal under appreciated overworked underpaid plebs I mean, I’m neither an engineer nor an academic and still hated working from home. I switched to EMS in 2014 and EHS in 2018 and both those have been really enjoyable careers (even if EMS paid absolute poo poo)
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Jan 20, 2021 21:13
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Is it okay to be overworked and underappreciated but well paid? Because that's where I'm going to have to aim and quite frankly I'm pretty okay with it.
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fizzymercy posted:Is it okay to be overworked and underappreciated but well paid? Because that's where I'm going to have to aim and quite frankly I'm pretty okay with it. It is presumably better than being overworked and underappreciated and not well paid.
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Jan 20, 2021 22:55
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Shout out to all the engineers and academics itt that love their job so much they dont know what 5pm means to us normal under appreciated overworked underpaid plebs You seem to be missing the point that WFH isn't the solution to this for everyone.
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Atticus_1354 posted:You seem to be missing the point that WFH isn't the solution to this for everyone. Well obviously, my wife is a mobile carer, my mum works in a care home, my best friend is a swimming teacher. Its pretty obvious when someones job is WFH compatible
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Jan 21, 2021 10:11
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fizzymercy posted:Is it okay to be overworked and underappreciated but well paid? Because that's where I'm going to have to aim and quite frankly I'm pretty okay with it. If you're over-worked, you aren't well-paid despite what you personally might feel like.
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Jan 21, 2021 10:17
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Zzulu posted:Maybe it is the difference between extroverted and introverted? I am a very extroverted person. Strategic Tea posted:WFH must be nice for people with families to hold their hands through everything but I'm alone in a shoebox in the city, and it sucks. I live in a 1br bachelorette pad with my cat, and yeah. The fact that I actually like my coworkers probably also makes things worse.
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Working from home sounds like it sucks rear end. I enjoy separating work from home life and a separate space and a reasonable commute help with that. I also feel like wfh would be less popular if office drones hadn’t already largely accepted that you still have to take work calls and emails outside of work hours.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I also feel like wfh would be less popular if office drones hadn’t already largely accepted that you still have to take work calls and emails outside of work hours. Hot tip yeah don't do this, reply the next morning unless you're doing a tactical once a fortnight 'reply at 9PM, cc all' so everyone knows what a hard worker you are.
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Jan 21, 2021 14:49
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People who send work emails before 9 and after 5 are bad people
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Jan 21, 2021 14:51
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If you can't do your job during the allotted time that you are contracted to be there, maybe with agreed overtime on occasion, you must loving suck at it and be incompetent.
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Jan 21, 2021 14:53
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Nah you might just have a job where a lot is expected of you but then your wages should reflect that
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JollyBoyJohn posted:People who send work emails before 9 and after 5 are bad people 
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JollyBoyJohn posted:People who send work emails before 9 and after 5 are bad people I agree, Europeans are terrible
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but everyone says if you wanna make it you gotta hustle and when you get home from work you gotta do more work
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Nah you might just have a job where a lot is expected of you but then your wages should reflect that That's true, but I do enjoy teasing people who seem proud of working 14hr days for next to no benefit to themselves or whatever.
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Once self-driving trucks are perfected, I think the US should nationalize the overground freight industry. Or at least offer the same service as a public non-profit entity, maybe as a part of the USPS.
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Manager Hoyden posted:Once self-driving trucks are perfected, I think the US should nationalize the overground freight industry. Or at least offer the same service as a public non-profit entity, maybe as a part of the USPS. self-driving trucks will never be perfected. Within your lifetime you will not see self-driving automobiles that re better than the average human driver in real world conditions. But I do hope self-driving trucks are forced on us anyway. Just because that would give rise to gangs who wait on highways in cell phone dead zones, and when a truck comes they run out and put a big black tarp on the ground to trick the truck into thinking the road has ended and then tear the thing open and steal all the cargo. And that would be cool.
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Gripweed posted:self-driving trucks will never be perfected. Within your lifetime you will not see self-driving automobiles that re better than the average human driver in real world conditions. Obviously that'll lead to Wells Fargo stagecoach levels of security where the truck will enter "self defense mode" and accelerate through anything and everything in its way until it makes it to the destination.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Obviously that'll lead to Wells Fargo stagecoach levels of security where the truck will enter "self defense mode" and accelerate through anything and everything in its way until it makes it to the destination. that can easily be defeated with spike strips
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How do automatically driven cars respond to mechanical failure?
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starkebn posted:How do automatically driven cars respond to mechanical failure? Immediate thermonuclear detonation.
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Gripweed posted:self-driving trucks will never be perfected. Within your lifetime you will not see self-driving automobiles that re better than the average human driver in real world conditions. Self-driving cars performed better than human drivers five years ago. People just clutch their pearls about weird edge cases like "what if the car has to choose between two people to hit" or "the cars can't prevent people from jumping in front of them to die" and ignore that human drivers are steamrolling people left and right not giving a gently caress. Also fast and furious road heists would def be cool but on the outside chance you're not joking it is already easy for people to rob some schlub trucker. No need to wait for future computer hacking in dead zones or whatever.
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starkebn posted:How do automatically driven cars respond to mechanical failure? They'll just call AAAA.
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Manager Hoyden posted:Self-driving cars performed better than human drivers five years ago. People just clutch their pearls about weird edge cases like "what if the car has to choose between two people to hit" or "the cars can't prevent people from jumping in front of them to die" and ignore that human drivers are steamrolling people left and right not giving a gently caress. https://twitter.com/Gossenphilosoph/status/884769533810143237
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